Is this a direct shot at southern culture or a true observation?

This kind of ties in with our discussion that Jeff started about saying hip hop is dead.

Read this article:

http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/editorial/archive/2009/08/10/21886645.aspx


And check this video

I'm sorry but the video is fucking stupid, I like Nas, but I don't see what he's trying to do with this. Yea mainstream hip hop is dumbed down, but not even soulja boy would do something as stupid as that. and no Nas hip hop is not dead.

Did you read the article? And Esco I am just curious but are you white?

KRob86 wrote:

Did you read the article? And Esco I am just curious but are you white?

Nah, i started reading the article, but its too long, and nah I'm hispanic, why do you ask?

I was just curious seriously because sometimes it helps to see where the person is coming from. Key word: SOMETIMES. But you should check the article fa real.

I'll finish reading it, I just got through 2 paragraphs and saw how much was left and got lazy. Ill comment on it in a few though.

I understand where dude is coming from here, and I agree with Nas' WARNING, that if this type of shit doesn't stop hip hop will die. That's different then proclaiming hip hop DEAD. I emphasize I have NO PROBLEM with these types of commentary, and feel it's necessary. IMO, there is a huge difference between what's being said here and a Ghostface Killah rant about how the south is kiling hip hop.

That dude that made the "Whip It Like A Slave" song should get his ass beat. And honestly I don't think Nick Cannon is THAT terrible of a rapper. Maybe if he injected more personality into his rhymes and some social commentary he could put together an album I'd want to check out (that song "Can I Live" was really dope, though).

HOWEVER, I do think it's a tad hypocritical for Nas and Nick Cannon to start downing on people who wear chains and shit like that (after all, didn't Nas make a song about a shorty owing him for ice?). Truthfully I miss artists like Pac and Scarface who can be contradictory but make it feel relatable like it's the same two warring sides within all of us instead of making this shit seem forced and just really hypocritical.

Anyway, good lookin on the article Kev.

Like I said many times FUCK THE SOUTH. I wish SRP's people went threw slavery and Jim Crow. Then he wouldn't think the south wasnt above criticism. Whites and Hispanics didn't go throw it so they're in no position to argue. That video is hilarious!!!!

There was slavery in the north, too, Trot.

I fully understand where both subjects were coming from and agree with most of it. But now that I have lived in the south half my life I have a tad different view of the culture. Dancing and cutting loose has always been apart of the south and creating new dances also. To them it is for the most part natural and all in fum but the outsiders that do not undastand the upbringing and mindstate are quick to down it and laugh at it.

For example one night I was watching "Best Dance Crew" on MTV and a southern grp was on there. They were dressed with overalls and straw hats for their opening routine and set it off. Anyway one of the judges opening statement was "I almost laughed just looking at y'all at first", and I could see their faces change due to being ashamed. To him it was weird and funny but to them it was tight and they were representing.

I wouldn't say it is a direct shot at the south. It is an overall critique of hip hop in general. Didn't somebody from New York make that "chicken noodle soup" song a few years ago?

The south is known for making their own dances. I don't see anything wrong with creating your own dances. They do that A LOT in StL too. Anybody see Nelly's "Shake Your Tailfeather" video? That video had some made up StL original dance moves in it. I didn't see anything wrong with that.

I think hip hop in the south is going the way of square dancing. That's where the emcee (caller) calls out the cues for people to do the dance. Yes there is a of of bullshit infiltrating the music. A few years ago, there was a video done by some tranny named "Ms Peaches that was some real ign'ant stuff. I tried to embed the video, but that feature has been disabled, here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrqW3nx5HM

I think all of the videos like the one mentioned above are being produced due to ignorance on the artist's part. Plus they are driven by the dollars. You get these poor people who have never seen $40,000.00 before and once it is offered to them they are willing to do anything at any cost. If the artist protests, then that money is yanked away, and the industry will just find someone who will do what they tell them to do. If people wouldn't be so willing to compromise their artistic abilities for dollars, then maybe hip hop won't be in trouble.

I find it funny how artists are so busy criticising each other. If they want the bullshit to stop, then they need to start their own record labels and promote the kind of artists THEY want to see in hip hop.

You can want in one hand and shit in the other. Which one is going to get filled up first.

That's just my take on the whole thing.