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PostSubject: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:27 pm

shit is garbage...you got fools making covers with king koopa and macaroni and cheese...when cats aint even got no cheese. only dude in the west who can sell more than 5 records is Game...and we all know his past. plus you have lil pale azz crackas like paul karp and hyphyhymen cosigning your shit...need i say more?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:34 pm





u just mad because mistah fab is the shit
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:36 pm

please do steve... you racist muthafukka.. you don't even know west coast if you think the biggest name out here is GAYme. your lack of knowledge in the west cracks me up... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:39 pm

lol mistah fab flows worse than my skeet down ya mamas throat...actually wait nm that flows pretty good. when mistah fab is your best representative you slippin hard cuz
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:41 pm

I'm sure that track was posted just to get you riled up and it did... you are sooooo predictable... hahhahahhahahaaaa

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:43 pm

lol u think that track got me riled up...and shit if that bunny game aint the biggest sellin artist out west, please tell me who is? LMAO @ some cracka azz cracka plumber claiming to know the rap game...LMAO!
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:49 pm

maybe biggest selling but not a real representative of the west scene. And y you so racist???? its getting old don't you think??? probably not, cuz you're so ignorant. Shaking My Head

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:51 pm

well i was talkin bout sales and then ur lily white azz tried to correct me...so u best come correct if u tryin to sound smart ya dig? west is deader than the east will ever be, without pac, snoop, and dre to carry y'all y'all can't hang
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:54 pm

independent is what the west is about. if you knew WC you'd know that. since when did record sales determine what is good and what isn't. most of the artists discussed on here ain't nationwide sellers except for the mainstream sellout shit you prolly listen to.

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:56 pm

lol, the only shit u listen to is niggaz shuckin and jivin' cuz that appeals to your slavemaster mentality. ya boys whole argument for the east being dead was sales, and as sad as they are now it's still like david vs. goliath.

and once again you aint even welcome in any bunnies cypher so how you gonna be speakin' on the underground? you aint even know my tastes and u tryin' to diss, why don't u get informed and then try to speak to that okay lil man?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 8:57 pm

Shaking My Head ignorance....

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 9:09 pm

Steve, Mistah FAB is actually pretty dope, but that song sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 9:14 pm

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u just mad because mistah fab is the shit

Seriously, though...

I like F.A.B. for the most part, but that song was awful. I mean, why not just paint their faces, make them wear tattered clothes, and have them shuck and jive for 5 minutes while they eat as much watermelon as they can? It's pretty much the same thing.

Shaking My Head ...that shit was terrible...

Can you point out anything specific that you think was talented about that track?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:09 pm

It's all about having fun, something Steve can't seem to grasp, lighten up it's not that serious, you like this, we like that.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:10 pm

Yogi, GET OFF HIS DICK MAN...this is a horrible look for you man...he's corny and so are you for licking his balls...put ya tongue back in your mouth man
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:12 pm

Powell, he just can't understand why you don't like what he likes, the same way you get all upset when someone doesn't respect your classics.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:16 pm

so you agree with this banana??
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:19 pm

about what?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:20 pm

with his actions since coming on the forum?? it's quite obvious to me how about you?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Tue 25 Aug 2009, 10:22 pm

no, not how he approached it, but I enjoy the same music he does, so I don't mind if he sticks around. anyway I'm out for the night holler at you tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 1:29 am

yOGi420™ wrote:
maybe biggest selling but not a real representative of the west scene. And y you so racist???? its getting old don't you think??? probably not, cuz you're so ignorant. Shaking My Head

Cracka ass cracka is not a racist term. But anyways that Hyphy and Thizznation movement in the west is straight up trash. Its so garbage not even pop-boppers are interested. Hell, not even Hyphiers know what Hyphy is.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 2:11 am

Trotter is a cracka azz cracka

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 7:37 am

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u just mad because mistah fab is the shit

Hey I'm tryin to listen to that but there's an echo on the video that ruin's the dude's vocals.....when I stop the video however, I hear the music properly for about 5 seconds. What the hell?

EDIT: Ah Norf quoted it, that's why I'm hearing it twice.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 11:11 am

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It's all about having fun, something Steve can't seem to grasp, lighten up it's not that serious, you like this, we like that.

lol @ lighten up Clearly you don't get it...

Let me ask you this...

Can you have fun and keep your dignity in tact at the same time? I mean, is that at all possible?

And what's not that serious?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 11:35 am

I like Ghost Ride it personally... don't see how the song or video is equivalent to a minstrel show.

It seems like a double standard to me in judgment.

Dude is just representing his hometown, movement, style, etc... it may be a bit silly to some and personally I'm not into immersing myself in it, but why does it have to be seen as a slight or dumbing down of black culture?
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 12:03 pm

I'm not really in need of an explanation...I watched the video too.

Maybe that position is part of the problem...

Either way, look up some of the old minstrel shit and see if you don't find similarities.

And who said they were dumbing down black culture? Black culture is bigger than that small box you have it in. I was simply speaking to the similarities and the poor quality (?) of the work.

I know that bullshit doesn't represent me. There's no way possible...I have dignity.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 12:23 pm

First, you have no clue what box I have black culture in, any statement comparing something to a minstrel show is comment on black culture.

That shit doesn't represent YOU, one person out of many.

Just because it doesn't represent YOU doesn't mean it lacks dignity.

That's your problem.

Minstrel shows were all about the audience. They were about stereotyping and disparaging black people for a white audience's entertainment. The comparison here is an insult and unfair judgment.

For one, this whole sideshow, ghost riding movement is mostly a local regional one. Very few people saw the video despite the major label on it. This was done by FAB for his audience, his fans, his region. This was no minstrel show.

It's bullshit for anyone to judge anyone else and state what is or isn't dignified, black or white.

Just because you happen to be black gives you no more right to pass judgment on another black man. Freedom is freedom. It's bullshit to sit there and proclaim something a "minstrel show" because it doesn't conform to some standards. Judging the man on that basis is oppressive, it's stating that black people aren't truly free - they must worry about "looking like a minstrel show" so they have to conform to some bullshit standards that are proper enough...the whole concept is bullshit.
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 1:04 pm

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First, you have no clue what box I have black culture in, any statement comparing something to a minstrel show is comment on black culture.

Say who? You? You're full of shit right now, dude...

Southern Rap Pro wrote:
That shit doesn't represent YOU, one person out of many.
Thanks Mr. SouthernRapProAtPointingOutTheObvious, but this point is moot since you're agreeing with me:

Kopasetick wrote:
I know that bullshit doesn't represent me. There's no way possible...I have dignity.

I don't need you to confirm shit. I'm a grown fuckin' man.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:
Just because it doesn't represent YOU doesn't mean it lacks dignity.

Comments like that tell me how small that box of yours is. You really think I'm the only person that thinks this shit is coonery? That's your problem. You know it all, so you keep putting that big foot in that even bigger mouth of yours without understanding what the fuckin' point was in the first place. I was talking to Shaw anyway. You love to take on the cause of others. Get the point, then respond...or shut the fuck up.

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Minstrel shows were all about the audience. They were about stereotyping and disparaging black people for a white audience's entertainment. The comparison here is an insult and unfair judgment.

Yogi is white, you dunce. He finds it quite entertaining, in case you haven't grasped that much by now... And, thanks for the history lesson, but I told you to go look it up. I already know what it is...

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For one, this whole sideshow, ghost riding movement is mostly a local regional one. Very few people saw the video despite the major label on it. This was done by FAB for his audience, his fans, his region. This was no minstrel show.

Yes...so that excuses the coonery... Good point. You're right, SRP. What was I thinking? I guess you sholl tol' me suh. I guess I's just sit on back heyun and minds my place.

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It's bullshit for anyone to judge anyone else and state what is or isn't dignified, black or white.

That's your opinion, dude. You want an argument? Fine, but don't be silly enough to even try and tell me what I can or can't do. Don't attempt to tell me what I'm trying to do either. State your position, leave it at that, and shut the fuck up. Follow your own advice.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:
Just because you happen to be black gives you no more right to pass judgment on another black man. Freedom is freedom. It's bullshit to sit there and proclaim something a "minstrel show" because it doesn't conform to some standards. Judging the man on that basis is oppressive, it's stating that black people aren't truly free - they must worry about "looking like a minstrel show" so they have to conform to some bullshit standards that are proper enough...the whole concept is bullshit.

Thanks for the speech, but again, you missed the fuckin' point, nimrod. You can take that grand ol' position and stick it up your ass sideways. You're not going to tell me what I'm trying to do. None of that babble has anything to do with what I was saying earlier. Stay on point, stay coherent, or, again, shut...the...fuck...up...

I wasn't talking to you in the first fuckin' place...
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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 1:09 pm

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PostSubject: Re: westcoast rap is dead   Wed 26 Aug 2009, 3:21 pm

Norf,
You really are just acting out and if that's what you want to do DO YOU!


This is a public forum... your opinion is out there for all to see. Anytime ANYONE sees anything they feel like commenting on - THEY DO!

If you want to go around with the chip on your shoulder thinking I like to specifically argue with you, take on others causes, etc. etc then go ahead.

You call something a minstrel show - it's a direct insult to the artist and the people involved, period.

You miss the point - you, me, shaw, no one is in the position to say something is coonery unless it really is coonery. The term, as well as minstrel show, gets lost and people just use it trying to make a point and sound down for the clause.

You don't seem to understand what made coonery and minstrel shows so bad. It wasn't about playing into stereotypes, it was about those people who made the stereotypes and used them for entertainment.

That's the point you don't understand. A man, black or otherwise, should have the freedom to be himself without having to worry about someone ridiculing him and using who he is as a way to demean him. True freedom is a man being able to be himself and not be judged. The problem isn't with the act. The problem was with how others perceived the act and made a person feel because of the act.

White people love rap. All of it. By your logic PE was a minstrel show. Dave Chappelle is involved in coonery, etc. etc.

The point is that people should be allowed to do what the fuck they want without being judged. You seem to be of the mindset they should do what is "proper" otherwise they risk entertaining the whiteman and becoming a minstrel show. Fear of judgment used to opress someone's freedom and rights is just as bad.

It's whatever though. It seems you are not capable of having a discussion without making it personal or having a difference of opinion. I don't care to get into that type of discourse.
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