I've lost all faith in the nigganess of these forums.

Man, y'all some bitches, for real. Caring about what happens on some corporate award show = GAY. Thinking some hot chick is ugly, or being all like "ohh no she's probably dirty ewww" = GAY. Oh no someone committed a crime off with their head = GAY.

You guys are a poor representation of the culture you love.

Bitching about nothing=gay.

People who like white rappers = GAY

Em is your GOAT so back off.

Steve your boy Kanye fucked up my dude big time..fuck "nigganess" and all that other bullshit..Kanye is straight cottonelle....and the sad thing about it all is that he thinks he represents us...lol

He might rep you my dude but that soft fruitcake does NOT rep me in any way, shape or form....real talk

Don't get me wrong Powell, I think Kanye is a real life homosexual and more punk rock than hip hop, but fuck Taylor Swift and fuck the VMAs and fuck grown ass men getting upset about it even more!

your missing the point man...fuck the VMA's my dude who is talking about that???

are you serious Steve you think this is about the VMA's?? or Taylor Swift??

you think Kanye speaks for black people....make up your mind man!

He is black and the "general" public they think he reps us??

you really don't understand what I mean man?? YOU??

I find that hard to believe

as a black man, a parent, and a leader...I find what he did to be a HUGE bad look my dude and it's not even that hard to see it was.....we both know he's not the first nor the last one to fuck up but the way he went about it makes me not respect him even more...come on Steve I know you understand what I'm saying...this isn't about "nigganess" this is about an extremely bad look for black folks and bitchassness......plain and simple man

nobody associates kanye with blacks...nobody is saying "blacks cant be trusted at awards shows now".....nobody is saying anything negative about blacks at all, hes one man who some people think did something wrong and he happens to be black. youre way over playing this one, and nobody views him as a black ambassador.

Nah I'm not overplaying it..I'm just discussing it like most heads have been all day on the blog sites, facebook, twitter, myspace and every other outlet that exists


and you already know what has been the common theme of most of those discussions...

that's why I'm discussing it man

Yes, all the ignorant people calling Kanye a stupid bunny online will associate all black people with him like ignorant racists and think badly of you Powell.

How horrible, the racists will not like you. If only Kanye acted like a good black person and set a proper example.


The people who stereotype are irrelevant to me, so fuck what they may think about black people after last night.

Kanye is his own man who should not be judged by his race. What he did... was funny...a bit rude and conceited... but that is Kanye... nothing less, nothing more... the world is blowing this out of proportion because Kanye is BLACK and Taylor Swift is their little white princess... and apparently they are getting people to buy into the racist hype.

well said Jeru, what he did was a dick move but by no means would i ever associate with what he did as speaking for black people. That's just ignorant white people talking trying to protect (like Jeru said), their little white princess.

Still though, it was a dick move

So you still have faith in me?

That's not true Jeru. I would hope that you and Steve who seem to act like it was funny wouldn't do the same thing. A real man would do what Diddy did and stand and clap for her because that's the classy thing to do. The man needs to grow up.
Thing is if it had been a man on the stage getting an award little punk ass Kanye wouldn't have had the nerve to go up there. Nobody cares about the fact he did it to Taylor Swift, they care about the fact that he acted like a fool. No grown man should ever stoop to that level. I don't get where race comes into play at all. If Paul McCartney had done the same thing i'd clown on him too.

^ i dont see where race comes into play either, it was just a dick thing to do on his part but race should not be involved

But see what everyone fails to realize is that race is involved trust me...I agree that if Kanye or Bono had done this weak shit I would call either one of them out on it and maybe the heads on this particular forum don't think race should be involved here but worldwide that's all the majority of heads are really thinking about..if you don't believe me then look at some blog sites or even facebook and read some opinions....we know that almost everything in the USA is associated with race..this is a FACT..it is refreshing to see that the heads on this forum feel the way they do about it and I actually agree with you guys..Kanye is a dick..no matter what color he is..it's been common knowledge for awhile but he just went and proved it further last night

but all he did was reinforce sterotypes about black males that have existed for centuries...I'm speaking about this from the experience of being black and all of the people I know are straight disgusted with Kanye and some have said they would never purchase his music again....I think that maybe a bit overboard but people are going to handle this differently..and the common theme is definitely that Kanye is a straight vagina for just being himself last night..and at least IMO he deserves to get lifted off his feet..he could have done this to Whitney Houston and I would've said the same thing but let's not kid ourselves and act like RACE is not an issue here...it was when Michael Jackson passed..it was when O.J. got convicted in Vegas..it was when Vick and Burress both were sat down...it was when Shawn Kemp wasn't paying his child support for like 15 kids..lol...it was when Obama was elected..


We've come along way but the race factor will probably never go away and only be manifested in different ways

Steve wrote:

Don't get me wrong Powell, I think Kanye is a real life homosexual and more punk rock than hip hop...

If your definition of punk rock is Blink 182...

Steve wrote:

nobody associates kanye with blacks...

Have you ever heard conservative morning talk radio? I'd bet you'd be surprised at how they lump Kanye into other things, such as hip-hop in general and urban pop...and how it's complete garbage....how urban black youths look up to that and it's horrible...blah blah blah...the full circle. Depending on how you interpret them, they could easily be seen as generalizing, at the very least.

Steve wrote:

Don't get me wrong Powell, I think Kanye is a real life homosexual and more punk rock than hip hop, but fuck Taylor Swift and fuck the VMAs and fuck grown ass men getting upset about it even more!

What?

Well back to da topic at hand. This forum is losing its Blackness. Face it, Whiteboys here have really bad taste in hip hop. They either like ICP, that generic Gangsta shit, or those honkey Tonk rappers. Im convinced N3R0 would like Monsta Island if they were a bunch of White boys. NERO hates NY rappers but likes Ill Bill and Necro and them....hmmmmmmmm. Maybe its cause their white.

The Kanye shit was kinda funny lol I cant lie I laughed but I felt kinda bad for Taylor Swift. Beyonce was a class act though

I'm the only white person here with decent taste in music.

Dang! Trotter wrote:

Well back to da topic at hand. This forum is losing its Blackness. Face it, Whiteboys here have really bad taste in hip hop. They either like ICP, that generic Gangsta shit, or those honkey Tonk rappers. Im convinced N3R0 would like Monsta Island if they were a bunch of White boys. NERO hates NY rappers but likes Ill Bill and Necro and them....hmmmmmmmm. Maybe its cause their white.

Out of all of the forum members, how many of us are black (that I know of)?

Off the top:
myself
Trotter
Steve
D. Powell
K Rob
T. Meyers???
Norf

Sorry if I missed anybody, but the point is that there aren't that many blacks on this board in general, so how could this board "gain " or "loose" blackness if there aren't many of us on here to begin with?

Myers is white. Kool John is black. Thereal is black. Highsmith is, as well.

a.scott wrote:

Dang! Trotter wrote:

Well back to da topic at hand. This forum is losing its Blackness. Face it, Whiteboys here have really bad taste in hip hop. They either like ICP, that generic Gangsta shit, or those honkey Tonk rappers. Im convinced N3R0 would like Monsta Island if they were a bunch of White boys. NERO hates NY rappers but likes Ill Bill and Necro and them....hmmmmmmmm. Maybe its cause their white.

Out of all of the forum members, how many of us are black (that I know of)?

Off the top:
myself
Trotter
Steve
D. Powell
K Rob
T. Meyers???
Norf

Sorry if I missed anybody, but the point is that there aren't that many blacks on this board in general, so how could this board "gain " or "loose" blackness if there aren't many of us on here to begin with?

Noone said anything about blackness... we're purely speaking about the platypuses and dodos....I love platypuses but I hate dodos...

Shaun wrote:

Myers is white. Kool John is black. Thereal is black. Highsmith is, as well.

so that's 3 more people added to my already small list, which equals 9 people. There are a lot more people on this forum who aren't black, so what do we expect when we meet up on a once really good (amazon) hip hop forum, and start our own based on that? Which still leaves the question regarding "blackness" and this forum wide open.

I'm white and i hate ICP, i think my taste in Hip HOp music is pretty good actually. So Trotter, your doing the same thing everyone here is complaining about, your stereotyping. Look, i'm not going to get into a race argument here. I don' t need to, i'm the type of person that doesn't see color. What people need to realize is that racism is never going to go away. There will always be people who are uneducated and hate people because of their race. But let's be honest, it goes both ways. There's plenty of racism from blacks against whites too. Look at Steve's comments above, hopefully he was kidding but it does go both ways. My criticism of Kanye comes from the fact he made a bitch move, not because of the color of his skin, but you can think whatever you want.

I've had alot of fun posting on these forums and i enjoy and respect most members that are here, I've been listening to hip hop since 86 and feel like i have plenty of knowledge about the genre. You don't have to be black to know hip hop and you don't have to be white to know Rock or Country. Stop being so shallow.

I'm black as well, just wanted to get that out there...

Terry is black? Lies...All lies...

He doesn't eat cornbread, so it can't be true.

Kopasetick wrote:

Terry is black? Lies...All lies...

He doesn't eat cornbread, so it can't be true.

He does like chicken though. That MUST count for something, lol.

Actually theres no such thing as a White person. Im White, but have a layer of biological paint on me

Dang! Trotter wrote:

Actually theres no such thing as a White person. Im White, but have a layer of biological paint on me

Due to that "biological paint" it has determined how you think, act, feel and react to everything in your environment. The same with somebody classified as white, or (without biological paint???). So, I'm still wondering how this forum has lost "blackness"? Does anybody care to clue me in on this?

^ lol you're taking this way too seriously

I don't know WTF A. Scott is talking about either...

Dang! Trotter wrote:

Well back to da topic at hand. This forum is losing its Blackness.

There.

And her use of question marks would suggest an uncertainty about his last post...

Or...this...

a.scott wrote:

anybody care to clue me in on this?

Kopasetick wrote:

Dang! Trotter wrote:

Well back to da topic at hand. This forum is losing its Blackness.

There.

And her use of question marks would suggest an uncertainty about his last post...

Or...this...

a.scott wrote:

anybody care to clue me in on this?

Yep. Norf got it.