A Good Ole' Versus Thread!

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube- Very close call

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short- Not a fan of either but I'll go with the vet in this matchup

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes

Heavy D vs. Blu- If Blu dropped another Below The Heavens quality album, I'd pick him. I do love his style, though.

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre- Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA- Killah Priest. Not the biggest GZA fan.

Tech N9ne vs. Twista- Tech

Rakim vs. Ghostface- Rakim

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000- Dre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard- ODB

Heather B vs. Da Brat- Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price- Price. I'm not too deep into Mystikal, though.

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee- Mellie Mel. Moe Dee is underrated, though, IMO

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley- Boots. Stic is too... :steve: for me

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube- Cube. My #3 or 4 of all time.

Kool G Rap vs. Nas- Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik- Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch- Bro Ali

Cormega vs. AZ- AZ by a tad

JT Money vs. Too Short- Shorty The Pimp all day

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9- Royce...

Joe Budden vs. Freeway- Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes- Catalog and ish-wise, Busta. But I think I'd rather listen to Mike

Heavy D vs. Blu (but Blu was the betta album against Hev's discog)

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat- (only based on discog but Heather B was the betta delivery to me)

Mystikal vs. Sean Price- (Even though i'm not a fan of monotone rappers I can see the appeal in Gza but this cat solo is boo boo)

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley- Shaun I do not think he hates white people..lol.

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes- (but Busta was the more memorable overall songs)

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes

Heavy D vs. Blu
The Heavster...easily.

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre
I can only guess we are voting based on rapping, so Eazy E it is.

Killah Priest vs. GZA
GZA, but not by much.

Tech N9ne vs. Twista
N/A...haven't heard much Tech N9ne to judge.

Rakim vs. Ghostface
Rakim

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000
Andre gets my vote...very close though.

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard
ODB...loved both of his solo albums.

Heather B vs. Da Brat
N/A...never listened to Heather B.

Mystikal vs. Sean Price
N/A...not familiar enough with either.

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee
Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley
Boots Riley...in my top 10.

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube
Chuck D by a fairly decent amount...love the PE.

Kool G Rap vs. Nas
Nas...barely.

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik
DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch
Brother Ali

Cormega vs. AZ
Cormega

JT Money vs. Too Short
Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9
I haven't heard enough of Royce to call this one...

Joe Budden vs. Freeway
Joe Budden I guess.

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes
Busta Rhymes by a large margin. The album I own from Killer Mike ("Monster") is not that great IMO...

KRob86 wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu (but Blu was the betta album against Hev's discog)

So "Below The Heavens" is better than "Peaceful Journey"? "Blue Funk"? "Nuttin' But Love"? I have at least the first two and maybe all 3 above the B&E personally.

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes

"Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley- Shaun I do not think he hates white people..lol."

Lol.

Alan wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu (but Blu was the betta album against Hev's discog)

So "Below The Heavens" is better than "Peaceful Journey"? "Blue Funk"? "Nuttin' But Love"? I have at least the first two and maybe all 3 above the B&E personally.

Hell yeah to me it is....But Heavy D was the betta flow, delivery, and charisma/swag. Heavy D is in my top 20 fav rappers because of that.

PS>......Bushwick is killing ODB lyrically imo.

KRob86 wrote:

Alan wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu (but Blu was the betta album against Hev's discog)

So "Below The Heavens" is better than "Peaceful Journey"? "Blue Funk"? "Nuttin' But Love"? I have at least the first two and maybe all 3 above the B&E personally.

Hell yeah to me it is....But Heavy D was the betta flow, delivery, and charisma/swag. Heavy D is in my top 20 fav rappers because of that.

PS>......Bushwick is killing ODB lyrically imo.

I agree that BTE is better than the Hev albums, but I still put Hev above Blu because he's got the more expansive and consistent discog.

ODB smashes Bushwick though. Return To The 36 is better than anything Bushwick released solo.

"PS>......Bushwick is killing ODB lyrically imo."

Bushwick may be better than ODB lyrically (to some, it's about even to me), ODB makes better albums and has the best charisma of any rapper (IMO)

Heavy D vs. Blu- Blu, drop the E. "Below the Heavens">>>>>

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre- Eazy E, I dig his albums more.

Killah Priest vs. GZA- Killah Priest, I bump him more.

Tech N9ne vs. Twista- Tech N9ne in a blow out.

Rakim vs. Ghostface- Ghost, easily.

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000- 3 Stacks, the new Del album is just decent.

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard- ODB in a blowout. I miss ODB, Wu Tang just doesn't feel same w/o him.

Heather B vs. Da Brat- nah to both

Mystikal vs. Sean Price- Sean P

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee- n/a

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley- n/a

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube- Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas- Nasty Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik- Quik, weird matchup

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch- Brother Ali in an easy matchup

Cormega vs. AZ- damn, mad tough. AZ because he's always good for a solid album.

JT Money vs. Too Short- Short Dog

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9- I don't know who's Trugoy

Joe Budden vs. Freeway- Philly Free in an easy matchup for me. Free has drop 3 strong albums so far.

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes- Busta Rhymes in a close matchup.

"Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee- n/a

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley- n/a"

Heavy D vs. Blu-is this even fair??? Heavy D by 30 football fields, their not even in the same realm and it's completely unfair to Blu who is a dope new school emcee, but he hasn't done enough to be up against a legend yet!

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre-Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA-GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista-Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface-Rakim by a good amount

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000-3 stacks

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard-Ol D.B. by 8,000 planets

Heather B vs. Da Brat-hmm this one is close, I'm going with Heather just barely

Mystikal vs. Sean Price-Sean Price by a good amount

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee-wow , this is a push for me

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley-Stic.Man

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube-Chuck D barely

Kool G Rap vs. Nas-Nas barely

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik-Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch-Serch by a good amount

Cormega vs. AZ-Mega

JT Money vs. Too Short-Short Dog

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9-Trugoy by a good amount

Joe Budden vs. Freeway-Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes-Busta by a good amount

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price-Mystikal has 2 albums that could be considered classic. This is an easy choice.

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes

Oh and for those that don't know Trugoy is that other emcee from De La Soul...in other words not Posdnous...but he's equally no joke on that mic device IMO!

D.Powell wrote:

Oh and for those that don't know Trugoy is that other emcee from De La Soul...in other words not Posdnous...but he's equally no joke on that mic device IMO!

LOL! I'm not sure how people do not know that already, but Tran never ceases to amaze me.

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface - this was the hardest one, Rakim is arguably the GOAT, but Ghost is prob my fav

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000 - barely

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard - close

Heather B vs. Da Brat - n/a

Mystikal vs. Sean Price

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley - not familiar enough with the Coup's discog

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube - this one is almost impossible but ill go with Cube slightly

Kool G Rap vs. Nas - 2 years ago i would say Nas, but G Rap slightly now

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch - but ive only heard 1 Bro Ali album and liked it a lot

Cormega vs. AZ - Fuck this is tough, ill give AZ the slight edge but basically a push

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes - n/a dont know Killer Mike well

KRob86 wrote:

Alan wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu (but Blu was the betta album against Hev's discog)

So "Below The Heavens" is better than "Peaceful Journey"? "Blue Funk"? "Nuttin' But Love"? I have at least the first two and maybe all 3 above the B&E personally.

Hell yeah to me it is....But Heavy D was the betta flow, delivery, and charisma/swag. Heavy D is in my top 20 fav rappers because of that.

PS>......Bushwick is killing ODB lyrically imo.

Just surprised to see you like "BTH" that much. "Peaceful Journey" and "Blue Funk" take it out IMO.

Even if Bushwick is a better lyricist than ODB, I find ODB far more entertaining.

D.Powell wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu-is this even fair??? Heavy D by 30 football fields, their not even in the same realm and it's completely unfair to Blu who is a dope new school emcee, but he hasn't done enough to be up against a legend yet!

I don't know about all that Powell. I picked Hev too because of his experience. But if Blu can put out another album like Below The Heavens then I'd take him over Hev easily. BTE is better than any Hev album IMO.

Slang Editorial wrote:

Kool G Rap vs. Nas - 2 years ago i would say Nas, but G Rap slightly now

That makes ABSOLUTELY no sense. If you like G Rap better then that's fine (personally I think Nas is better but it's very close), but basing it off of the last two years makes no sense.

Say what you will about Untitled (a near classic IMO) but it's EASILY better than anything G Rap has done since Live Or Let Die.

KJ Styles wrote:

Slang Editorial wrote:

Kool G Rap vs. Nas - 2 years ago i would say Nas, but G Rap slightly now

That makes ABSOLUTELY no sense. If you like G Rap better then that's fine (personally I think Nas is better but it's very close), but basing it off of the last two years makes no sense.

Say what you will about Untitled (a near classic IMO) but it's EASILY better than anything G Rap has done since Live Or Let Die.

no i didnt mean i was basing it on the last 2 years, but over the last 2 years ive come to like G Rap overall slightly more, or at least as much as Nas, the matchup is probably more of a push for me as they are both in my top 10

Slang's explanation seems to make sense to me KJ. See what happens when you ASSume.

I though the same thing KJ did at first, lol. Slang's newest post made sense, though.

KJ Styles wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu-is this even fair??? Heavy D by 30 football fields, their not even in the same realm and it's completely unfair to Blu who is a dope new school emcee, but he hasn't done enough to be up against a legend yet!

I don't know about all that Powell. I picked Hev too because of his experience. But if Blu can put out another album like Below The Heavens then I'd take him over Hev easily. BTE is better than any Hev album IMO.

Damn KJ, do you even like Heavy D that much? I thought Below The Heavens was a 2007 classic when it dropped, but now I couldn't dare use the term "classic" with the luster and replay value it's lost.

Cosign Powell, Heavy D in an absolute blowout. Blu hasn't come close to his debut since and Heavy D has dropped nothing but quality his whole damn career.

"I thought Below The Heavens was a 2007 classic when it dropped, but now I couldn't dare use the term "classic" with the luster and replay value it's lost."

Damn... that album still gets regular rotation from me.

Heavy D vs. Blu- Heavy D

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre-Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA-KP

Tech N9ne vs. Twista-Tech N9ne in skill and albums...ya'll need to LISTEN to cats before you just judge em

Rakim vs. Ghostface-ah ha ha ha ha ha RAKIM

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000-Dre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard-Push, not a fan of either

Heather B vs. Da Brat-Da Brat if I have to choose one

Mystikal vs. Sean Price-Mystikal, not even close

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee-Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley-Boots...Stic.man does actually hate white people

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube-Cube, because of the lyrics

Kool G Rap vs. Nas-Damn...Kool G

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik-Quik far and away

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch-Ali, Serch might as well be wearing a shirt saying "I WISH I WAS BLACK" in huge letters

Cormega vs. AZ-lyrically I'd naturally give it to AZ, but Mega's far more consistent

JT Money vs. Too Short-is this even relevant? $hort because he's a pioneer and we share a birthday...

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9-Royce, of course...I'm not a De La fan but they're no slouches

Joe Budden vs. Freeway-Budden, but Free has improved IMO over the years. Still don't think I could tolerate a whole album by the dude though

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes-Busta, because of his longevity

Shaun wrote:

"I thought Below The Heavens was a 2007 classic when it dropped, but now I couldn't dare use the term "classic" with the luster and replay value it's lost."

Damn... that album still gets regular rotation from me.

It still gets spins from me. I still like the record quite a bit. But honestly not as much as Heavy D. I grab for those two aforementioned albums quite a bit more.

Alan wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu-is this even fair??? Heavy D by 30 football fields, their not even in the same realm and it's completely unfair to Blu who is a dope new school emcee, but he hasn't done enough to be up against a legend yet!

I don't know about all that Powell. I picked Hev too because of his experience. But if Blu can put out another album like Below The Heavens then I'd take him over Hev easily. BTE is better than any Hev album IMO.

Damn KJ, do you even like Heavy D that much? I thought Below The Heavens was a 2007 classic when it dropped, but now I couldn't dare use the term "classic" with the luster and replay value it's lost.

Cosign Powell, Heavy D in an absolute blowout. Blu hasn't come close to his debut since and Heavy D has dropped nothing but quality his whole damn career.

I like Heavy D a lot, but I don't consider any of his albums classics. BTE is a easily a classic IMO.

T. Myers wrote:

Slang's explanation seems to make sense to me KJ. See what happens when you ASSume.

To quote Powell, FUCK YOU MAN!!!

I don't care for Heavy D much at all, but Blu has one dope record...not even a comparison.

KJ Styles wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu-is this even fair??? Heavy D by 30 football fields, their not even in the same realm and it's completely unfair to Blu who is a dope new school emcee, but he hasn't done enough to be up against a legend yet!

I don't know about all that Powell. I picked Hev too because of his experience. But if Blu can put out another album like Below The Heavens then I'd take him over Hev easily. BTE is better than any Hev album IMO.

He needs more than just one more BTE...he needs about 2 to 3 more to even be in the same conversation as Hev..none of Hev's albums are below 3.5 stars IMO and Blue Funk is a classic IMO

Living Large-4 stars
Big Tyme-4.5 stars
Peaceful Journey-4.75 stars
Blue Funk-5 stars
Nuttin' But Love-4 stars
Waterbed Hev-4 stars
Heavy-3.5 stars
Vibes-4 stars


Blu is goin to need more than just one more BTE to equal that type of track record...to me that match-up is not fair to Blu and I'm pretty sure he would probably even say that....he's got a long way to go and lyrically I don't think he's better than Hev either..so overall he just loses by 30 football fields right now...

Heavy D vs. Blu

Eazy E vs. Dr Dre

Killah Priest vs. GZA

Tech N9ne vs. Twista

Rakim vs. Ghostface

Del Tha Funkee vs. Andre 3000

Bushwick Bill vs. Ol Dirty Bastard

Heather B vs. Da Brat

Mystikal vs. Sean Price

Melle Mel vs. Kool Moe Dee

Stic.Man vs. Boots Riley

Chuck D vs. Ice Cube

Kool G Rap vs. Nas

Moka Only vs. DJ Quik

Bro Ali vs. MC Serch

Cormega vs. AZ

JT Money vs. Too Short

Trugoy vs. Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden vs. Freeway

Killer Mike vs. Busta Rhymes

BTW That Slaughterhouse album is sick!

D.Powell wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

Heavy D vs. Blu-is this even fair??? Heavy D by 30 football fields, their not even in the same realm and it's completely unfair to Blu who is a dope new school emcee, but he hasn't done enough to be up against a legend yet!

I don't know about all that Powell. I picked Hev too because of his experience. But if Blu can put out another album like Below The Heavens then I'd take him over Hev easily. BTE is better than any Hev album IMO.

He needs more than just one more BTE...he needs about 2 to 3 more to even be in the same conversation as Hev..none of Hev's albums are below 3.5 stars IMO and Blue Funk is a classic IMO

Living Large-4 stars
Big Tyme-4.5 stars
Peaceful Journey-4.75 stars
Blue Funk-5 stars
Nuttin' But Love-4 stars
Waterbed Hev-4 stars
Heavy-3.5 stars
Vibes-4 stars


Blu is goin to need more than just one more BTE to equal that type of track record...to me that match-up is not fair to Blu and I'm pretty sure he would probably even say that....he's got a long way to go and lyrically I don't think he's better than Hev either..so overall he just loses by 30 football fields right now...

I agree Alan, I mean even though I still say Below Heavens overall is betta than all of Heavy's albums to me I still think Heavy is way more consistant and way more entertaining. Blu fell off hard after BTH and needs to get back with exile or something.

Zoltar good look on picking Bushwickmuthaphuckingstayhighdollarbillsta. But I do not even faintly see the appeal in Sean Price solo wise. What is it about him you guys really dig?

Below The Heavens ain't better than Blue Funk..Peaceful Journey nor Big Tyme IMO

Below The Heavens is a good new school album but that shit ain't timeless like those Heavy D joints Kev

Blu doesn't have any "Now That We've Found Love"
"Somebody For Me"
"We Got Our Own Thang"
"Blue Funk"
"Don't Curse"
"Is It Good To You"

plus Hev is better than him lyrically too IMO!

and has many more joints actually....Hev is killin him man...EASILY! and I like Blu but he's got a long way to go man!

D.Powell wrote:

Below The Heavens ain't better than Blue Funk..Peaceful Journey nor Big Tyme IMO

Below The Heavens is a good new school album but that shit ain't timeless like those Heavy D joints Kev

Blu doesn't have any "Now That We've Found Love"
"Somebody For Me"
"We Got Our Own Thang"
"Blue Funk"
"Don't Curse"
"Is It Good To You"

plus Hev is better than him lyrically too IMO!

and has many more joints actually....Hev is killin him man...EASILY! and I like Blu but he's got a long way to go man!

I like Heavy D, but Below The Heavens is an undisputed classic to me. None of Hev's albums are classic. A few are near classics, but none of them are skip free.

As for lyrics, I think Blu's better. Hev's got dope flow and delivery, but lyrics aren't really his strong point IMO. Pete's production makes Hev sound the way he does.

But we can agree to disagree.

D.Powell wrote:

Below The Heavens ain't better than Blue Funk..Peaceful Journey nor Big Tyme IMO

Below The Heavens is a good new school album but that shit ain't timeless like those Heavy D joints Kev

Blu doesn't have any "Now That We've Found Love"
"Somebody For Me"
"We Got Our Own Thang"
"Blue Funk"
"Don't Curse"
"Is It Good To You"

plus Hev is better than him lyrically too IMO!

and has many more joints actually....Hev is killin him man...EASILY! and I like Blu but he's got a long way to go man!

Now of course Hev has way more classic singles than Blu, I mean he is atom bombing him right there. I did not say singles wise I said album wise overall. I mean Hev albums did not hit me lyrically like Blu's did.

Just for the record guys Below The Heavens is NOT an undisputed classic...who says that??

an UNDISPUTED classic is:
Straight Outta Compton
Illmatic
It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Midnight Marauders
Raising Hell


all of those are examples of UNDISPUTED classics IMO.....Below The Heavens isn't on the level of those albums...let's not overrate it please...lol

And Kev, do you really think Blu is better than Hev lyrically??

for me it's not even really close there either...I mean Hev held his own with G Rap...Grand Puba...BDK and many others he's collabo'ed with...Hev is just waay better right now...check back with Blu in about 10 years and see where he stands then...lol

KJ Pete didn't produce that much for Hev man...what are you talking about with that??

Pete did alot of Blue Funk but Hev worked with Teddy Riley..Marley Marl...Eddie F.....Tony Dofat...Nevelle Hodge...too name a few man...Hev is the one who really brought Teddy Riley to the forefront man

D.Powell wrote:

Just for the record guys Below The Heavens is NOT an undiputed classic...who says that??

an UNDISPUTED classic is:
Straight Outta Compton
Illmatic
It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Midnight Marauders
Raising Hell


all of those are examples of UNDISPUTED classics IMO.....Below The Heavens isn't on the level of those albums...let's not overrate it please...lol

I'm not overrating anything, you're UNDERRATING BTH. Then again, save for Little Brother you basically do that for anything made post-2000.

I haven't met anyone other than you and Pounds say that BTH isn't classic. Just because an album is underground doesn't disqualify it from being an undisputed classic. It just means that not as many people have heard it.
Just like not as many people have seen Clerks, but it doesn't mean it's not a classic like Animal House, Friday, American Pie, etc...

And yes, I know that Teddy was the exec producer (along with Eddie F) for most of Hev's albums, but Pete had a hand in ALL of them with the exception of Livin Large.

Teddy PRODUCED a lot of material for Hev Kj just like Eddie F...kill that executive producer bullshit...they weren't just statues on the project like Diddy or some shit..they actually did the beats for those joints...they did more than Pete did...you don't know what your talking about with that one..this is a FACT....

As for Below The Heavens it is a decent album but even it is not skip free...it has about two joints that are lackluster IMO...Juicen' Dranks being one of them....

and that album is not on the level of Blue Funk..or Big Tyme or Peaceful Journey IMO! no matter of whether it's underground or mainstream...who cares man!

Below The Heavens is dope, but i think it's slightly overrated myself. It's probably close to the 5 star mark, but i'm not sure if i'd call it a classic. I personally like Blue Funk and Peaceful Journey just as much if not more.

D.Powell wrote:

and that album is not on the level of Blue Funk..or Big Tyme or Peaceful Journey IMO! no matter of whether it's underground or mainstream...who cares man!

We'll just agree to disagree on that one, baby bubba.

D.Powell wrote:

Just for the record guys Below The Heavens is NOT an undisputed classic...who says that??

an UNDISPUTED classic is:
Straight Outta Compton
Illmatic
It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Midnight Marauders
Raising Hell


all of those are examples of UNDISPUTED classics IMO.....Below The Heavens isn't on the level of those albums...let's not overrate it please...lol

coooooo sign

D.Powell wrote:

And Kev, do you really think Blu is better than Hev lyrically??

for me it's not even really close there either...I mean Hev held his own with G Rap...Grand Puba...BDK and many others he's collabo'ed with...Hev is just waay better right now...check back with Blu in about 10 years and see where he stands then...lol

On Below The Heavens yes I do. Just keep in mind I am only speaking on the Blu on that album not the Blu as a complete artist. I already stated how much Blu has fell off since and Hev is top 20 all time for me so I know how far to go with this comparision.

Below The Heavens is not a undisputed classic and I agree with that but it is a personal classic for me that gets betta and betta with every spin. I only skip one trk on that one.