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PostSubject: Who is the most underrated producer of all time?   Who is the most underrated producer of all time? Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 2:48 pm

IMO, the most underrated producer ever is Muggs. He's produced a slew of hit singles for many artists, classic albums, and great comps, but rarely is he mentioned amongst the best. IMO, he's deserving of at least that. Thoughts on Muggs or your choice for most underrated?
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Not even close

E A Ski comes to mind...
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Not even close

E A Ski comes to mind...

Sir i never asked you to comment on my opinion of Muggs being underrated. I asked to to comment on Muggs and/or who you think is the most underrated. follow instructions next time.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is the most underrated producer of all time?   Who is the most underrated producer of all time? Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 2:59 pm

EA Ski... Easy Mo Bee... Ayatollah

My personal answer would be 6 July
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I remember when this question was asked in the old forum. My answer still remains the same, Easy Mo Bee.
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Easy Mo's album was wack...
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Bunny Man wrote:
Easy Mo's album was wack...

He never released a solo album, he was the exec on a number of LP's though. Some of which are classic.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
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Oh ok, never heard that joint....I'll download it sometime.

My vote still remains the same though. I think he's easily a Top 20 producer. He produced a lot of classic tunes.
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Well he must be underrated if his biggest fan didn't even know about his CD.

I don't think he is underrated. Just his time has passed. In his time Easy Mo worked with greats like Miles Davis and Biggie and his talent was certainly recognized. He failed to make his music a brand like Premier or Pete Rock... but that was his own fault.
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Well he must be underrated if his biggest fan didn't even know about his CD.

I don't think he is underrated. Just his time has passed. In his time Easy Mo worked with greats like Miles Davis and Biggie and his talent was certainly recognized. He failed to make his music a brand like Premier or Pete Rock... but that was his own fault.

I'm not his "biggest fan" but I have enjoyed his work. I feel he was underrated because Diddy got most of the credit for Bad Boy's success when it was really Mo Bee that crafted many of their classic beats. All Diddy does is oversee the Bad Boy projects.

I believe he can still make dope beats, as well as mentor up and coming producers.
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6 July
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Andre 3000/Big Boi/Mr. DJ
Muggs
E A Ski

Personal faves not on that level

Jody Stevens/DJ Dev
Esham
DJ U-Neek
LT Hutton
Meech Wells
Steve Pitts
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I agree that Muggs is underrated

Scram Jones is IMO underrated too, but doesnt have that huge of a catalog
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Damn Slang, here I was expecting you to put 18th string Wu producers on here, but you're co-signing Scram Jones. Props.
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Muggs
Havoc
Buckwild

those are some of the first to come to mind for me...all 3 have produced some bangers throughout their careers in the game!


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Damn Slang, here I was expecting you to put 18th string Wu producers on here, but you're co-signing Scram Jones. Props.

now that you mention it i do think 4th Disciple is heavily underrated
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PostSubject: Re: Who is the most underrated producer of all time?   Who is the most underrated producer of all time? Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 6:23 pm

but honestly maybe the most underrated producer out there is Lil Fame
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Lil Fame was dope til he started stealing beats.
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Easy Mo's album was wack...

quit hating on everything.
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The album is wack mooseboy.
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The album is wack mooseboy.

quit being a hater, if anyone else on this forum hated as much as you, you would flip on them. You constantly calling people haters who dont like the wack shit you like. But you hate damn near every thing, thats all you do is hate. get the fuck outta here with that bullshit
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Cory wrote:
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The album is wack mooseboy.

quit being a hater, if anyone else on this forum hated as much as you, you would flip on them. You constantly calling people haters who dont like the wack shit you like. But you hate damn near every thing, thats all you do is hate. get the fuck outta here with that bullshit

Have you heard the album? Do you you want to talk about that? Or are you too busy acting like there's a moose antler up your ass to actually discuss the topic at hand?
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Bunny Man wrote:
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The album is wack mooseboy.

quit being a hater, if anyone else on this forum hated as much as you, you would flip on them. You constantly calling people haters who dont like the wack shit you like. But you hate damn near every thing, thats all you do is hate. get the fuck outta here with that bullshit

Have you heard the album? Do you you want to talk about that? Or are you too busy acting like there's a moose antler up your ass to actually discuss the topic at hand?

im talking about you in general on this forum. 8 out of 10 times when you post something its you being a hater to whatever the topic is about. Then you post something about a wack rapper no one gives a fuck about and when people say its wack you get all bitchy
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Cory wrote:
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The album is wack mooseboy.

quit being a hater, if anyone else on this forum hated as much as you, you would flip on them. You constantly calling people haters who dont like the wack shit you like. But you hate damn near every thing, thats all you do is hate. get the fuck outta here with that bullshit

Have you heard the album? Do you you want to talk about that? Or are you too busy acting like there's a moose antler up your ass to actually discuss the topic at hand?

im talking about you in general on this forum. 8 out of 10 times when you post something its you being a hater to whatever the topic is about. Then you post something about a wack rapper no one gives a fuck about and when people say its wack you get all bitchy

Cory just bodied you!!!
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No Cory is just bitching about some imaginary shit and you cosign him because you have the same complex. You bodied yourself by talking about a producer and not even knowing about his solo album. Cory bodies himself on the daily with his angry little man attitude.

Once again, do you people want to talk about the topic at hand?
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Well that album wasn't very well promoted, otherwise I would have known about it.

He does have a valid point, you do come on topics and talk about how wack or overrated you think someone is, yet you complain when someone doesn't endorse an artist you like.

To continue on with the topic, another producer I think is underrated is Diamond D.
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No KJ, that's just how you and mr. mooserape perceive things.

Easy Mo Bee's album was well promoted enough for me, a southern hater, to know about it and buy it. Ir was on Priority Records if I recall. Maybe the label was too west coast for you.

And Diamond D is not who I would call underrated.
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Muggs - for Temples Of Boom
Havoc - for Hell On Earth

Those 2 albums and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are my top 3 production wise
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Muggs - for Temples Of Boom
Havoc - for Hell On Earth

Those 2 albums and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are my top 3 production wise

Now that you mention Havoc, The Infamous to Murda Muzik have some of my favorite production. That and his production outside Mobb Deep have some sick beats, I'm just not sure if he's underrated, not too familiar with how people rate the dude.
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Yeah most recognize him as being dope and he is so he is not underrated in that sense but i think havoc along with muggs are ranked lower than they should be when it comes to the all time greats
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Havoc's drums in the 90's >>>>>>>>>>>>> music
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Muggs
Hi-Tek
Lord Finesse
Pimp C (created the UGK sound)
Organized Noize could get a little more shine.

Have nice beats
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Havoc's drums in the 90's >>>>>>>>>>>>> music

Oh hell yea, and that hi hat he used. It was repetitive but oh my fuck is it one of my favorite sounds.
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Hmmm....Havoc is a pretty good pick. It's funny how he's almost never mentioned. Someone with that many classics should get more light.

Underrated producers (in my humble opinion) off the top of my dome:

DJ U-Neek
EL-P
Blockhead
Kenny Keys
Lil' Jon (in the sense that folks have labeled and dismissed him after the crossover...check his early shit...nothin' but dope)
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Who the fuck is Kenny Keys?
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Lil Jon does come with it on the beats. He's had me crunk since High School.
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Lil Jon does come with it on the beats. He's had me crunk since High School.

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Erotic D, is my pick. He produced D.O.C.'s second album. Those beats came hard. And I've been hooked ever since.
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I'd pick Ayatollah. No way on Havoc. He peaked and faded in the public eye. How's that underrated? Everyone was on that shit when he was doing it. People don't mention him because it was 15 years ago.

About Ayatollah, anybody hear anything about him breaking Rugged Man off with an entire album? A friend was telling me he saw an RA interview where he was talking it up.
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Nice pick with ?uestlove.
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I'd pick Ayatollah. No way on Havoc. He peaked and faded in the public eye. How's that underrated? Everyone was on that shit when he was doing it. People don't mention him because it was 15 years ago.

About Ayatollah, anybody hear anything about him breaking Rugged Man off with an entire album? A friend was telling me he saw an RA interview where he was talking it up.

I guess I can see where Havoc faded. Some of the stuff on Infamy was horrible. He's come back to make some dope shit though.
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Obviously Dj Lethal is dope too.
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I also mentioned Ayatollah
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Lil Jon is the shit too. Fuck haters.
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Come on the obvious choice is the RAL production camp like NO Joe, Mike Dean, Crazy C, Bido, and others. I never ever hear them get mentioned with dope producers but yet I hear so many who luv that earl RAL sound. You do you think crafted it>
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I'm not so sure that it's all that obvious.

Also, I'm not so sure that Mike Dean or NO Joe are all that underrated...
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