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AZ on "Lifes a Bitch"
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Big L on "Represent"
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Nas on "Live at the BBQ"
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PostSubject: Best "Debut" verse vol. 1   Best "Debut" verse vol. 1 Icon_minitimeMon 01 Jun 2009, 5:26 pm

Who has the best "debut" verse out of these three rappers. The criteria is they have to be on another persons album and even if it is not the rappers actual first verse, it is the verse that exposed them to the mainstream and/or a wider audience.

here are the volume 1 nominees:

AZ on "Lifes A Bitch" from Illmatic
Big L on "Represent" off Runaway Slave
Nas on "Live at the BBQ" from Breaking Atoms

Most of you are going to say L's first appearance was on Lord Finesse's "Yes You May Remix" but that was only a b-side and since it never appeared on an album "Represent" is the song that is being nominated


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AZ all day
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PostSubject: Re: Best "Debut" verse vol. 1   Best "Debut" verse vol. 1 Icon_minitimeMon 01 Jun 2009, 5:32 pm

AZ on "Life's a Bitch"...he raised the bar too high for himself with that appearance.
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Closer than I thought. Nas gets the knod but AZ made it close.


Nice thread idea.
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im gonna have to give this to Big L he made that verse his bitch, literally

all are all-time classics, but L's has way too many quotables
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I gotta go with Nas' Live at The BBQ. When I heard that verse, I KNEW he was gonna become a HUGE star!
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AZ in a tight one over Nas. AZ's verse on Life's a Bitch is an all time favorite.
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Live at The BBQ
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AZ son
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Nas' verse on Live @ The BBQ is the winner here.
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Nas all day!!

Maye are you voting on the 100 Greatest threads?
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Yo, on the mic is Big L, that brother who kicks flav God
Known for sendin garbage MC's to the graveyard
I pack a gat and not a slingshot
Step to this and get a ass-whoopin like Rodney King got
Or get beat to your death like Cochise
My laws is no peace, fuck the police
MC's be braggin about cash they collect
but them chumps is like Ray Charles
cause they ain't seen no money yet
Trash rappers I tax and spark
I be wettin niggaz up like water rides in Action Park
A bunny stuck me, and that ain't funny son
So I got money Dunn, they wet him and his honey bun
Cause phony faggots I froze, it's a fact
I flip fast on foes with fabulous fantastic flows
L is the rebel type, I'm rough as a metal pipe
Fuck a Benz, cause I could pull skins on a pedal-bike!
Props, I got the most, no MC comes close
Coast-to-coast, shows I host, foes I roast
Adios, I'm ghost
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Not sure if it was his debut verse, but Killer Mike's verse on Snappin' & Trappin' was a head turner for this listener...
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I think this only applies to the 3 listed in the voting poll, Norf. lol.
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nas isnt a huge star, he's not a very big seller; thats the only way to measure a star KJ.
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Steve wrote:
nas isnt a huge star, he's not a very big seller; thats the only way to measure a star KJ.

Well let's see Steve. Nas has sold over 12 million albums in the US (which is more than AZ and Big L COMBINED) and is widely considered one of the Top 5 MC's of all time. So yeah, I'd say he's a HUGE star!
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nope, eminem is a huge star, wayne is a huge star, jayz is a huge star, pac is a huge star, biggie is a huge star, etc.


nas is 2nd tier easily...not skill wise necessarily, but star wise.
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nas isnt a huge star, he's not a very big seller; thats the only way to measure a star KJ.

Well let's see Steve. Nas has sold over 12 million albums in the US (which is more than AZ and Big L COMBINED) and is widely considered one of the Top 5 MC's of all time. So yeah, I'd say he's a HUGE star!

That is not too impressive considering ithat's based on like 11-12 albums.
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The Game is a bigger star than Nas. Young Jeezy is probably a bigger star too.
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The Game is a bigger star than Nas. Young Jeezy is probably a bigger star too.

GTFOH Terry, those two don't have the street cred that Nas does.

There's more to being a star than record sales. When it's all said and done, nobody's gonna recognize Game or Jeezy as the greatest rapper of all time, yet many people bring Nas' name up in such conversations.
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That doesn't mean you are a STAR....dude, like I said, skill has nothing to do with it.
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Steve wrote:
That doesn't mean you are a STAR....dude, like I said, skill has nothing to do with it.

So under your definition, Rakim, KRS-One, and Big Daddy Kane aren't huge STARS either. Nas has more record sales than all three of them.

Stars have noteriety, which is something Nas and the three MC's I just named all have.
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Okay, NO. You are WRONG. no fucking random ass dude knows KRS, Rakim, etc.


Do they know Jay-Z? Eminem, etc.? Yes. You are being fucking stupid KJ, for real. no one is dissing their skill as a rapper or status in the game AT ALL, but nas is NOT A STAR.
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Okay, NO. You are WRONG. no fucking random ass dude knows KRS, Rakim, etc.


Do they know Jay-Z? Eminem, etc.? Yes. You are being fucking stupid KJ, for real. no one is dissing their skill as a rapper or status in the game AT ALL, but nas is NOT A STAR.

Jay and Em might be bigger STARS, but Nas is a STAR as are Rakim and KRS.

Just like Lebron and Kobe are bigger STARS than say, KG and Iverson, but they're STARS as well.
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smdd...okay, agree to disagree.
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That Big L verse blows Nas' out of the water. AZ's is even rougher. Anyone voting for Nas is on some sack (except Wayne, we already know. JK)
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