Salvia Divinorum....

Holy Mother of Fuck

I pack a bowl of 30x. I rip that whole shit. This was after an evening of drinking. I've smoked 15x a few times and just got real high. This was my breakthrough.

I handed the pipe to my friend. Everything disappeared. My body, my friend, everything. I was in a black hole on the end of the universe. Except I was no longer "I", either. I was an entirely different being with an individual history and present.

I "looked up" and realized I was not alone. There were other conscious beings in this dimension. They presided over me in judgement, and I was sentenced to a lifetime of abandonment and rejection. I was an infant, cast aside by it's mother. My time in this dimension was an entire life.

Coming out, it felt as if my soul was being torn through my face. As I returned to my physical body, I slowly regained my senses. I was compelled to pace my home for the next half hour. It took about haof that long before I could formulate my words to speak.

On Earth, apparently I slowly slid to the floor and assumed a fetal position. Shortly after I sprung to a sitting position. My eyes were wide with terror. I began speaking in tongues, scurrying backward on my ass until I hit the wall, then I hid my face, still spewing gibberish. In this realm the entire event was done in 15 minutes.

The spirit world was very displeased at my lack of respect. Particularly being drunk. In all I took away the message that I need to strive to be a better person.

Salvia was the "little ally" that Casteneda documented in his journeys with Don Juan. This experience was not a matter of perception. I left this world, no doubt in my mind. I am looking forward to returning and gaining the approval of my spirit guides. I have some work to do.

Fire away...

Salvia's offically sold as an incense? right? undercover, like oil pipes arent tweeker pipes and bongs are meant for tobacco...

Ive yet to try it..heard good things..I mean that in the most fitting way possible....

my homie bought some kinda herbal shit from a head shop in DC,,25 a gram,,i gotta get back to you on what exactly it is..but it gave a real head high for about a good 15..

When you read "...an entirely different being with..." and "...an entire lifetime..", know that I am not being cryptic or facetious. I'm not bullshitting.

Take my advice, don't Fuck with this as a party drug or a new high. You will leave your body. You will travel to dimension where space and time have never existed. Use respect.

Wow, it's been almost 10 years since I first tripped on salvia, No Idea why the FDA is still leting this sage be legal. I got the twister once about 5 years ago, so I did figure out why that was one of it's nicknames...I laughed at fools who said that shit for years.

Salvia is dope, I've only done it a few times, but each time it was crazy. I wouldn't rec taking more than one hit a night in my personal experience. At least it doesn't last that long. The only thing I vividly remember if feeling as if I was inside of a book, really tiny, and somehow it seemed like some one was going to close the book and I wasn't going to exist anymore. Really weird and powerful shit.

White people...and Acrid...

[Disclaimer: Jokes, people...just jokes]

PCP>Salvia

Salvia is a Mazatec tradition. White people are destroying its credibility by treating it like a party drug. And if you're comparing to disassociatives (PCP) then you didn't break through. A level 4 experience incorporates the other dimension with ours. There is no real frame or reference until level 5, wherein you leave your body and the entire ethereal plane behind. You become their guest, not the other way around.

This is true Shamanism, transcendence.

RompedOut, could you go more into detail about your trip? You must have given some thought to what exactly happened.

Sounds like fun. Maybe I would have tried it back in college, but I don't drugs anymore. Just weed.

I'm not "comparing" PCP to Salvia, I'm saying I personally preferred a controlled trip then feeling completely out of control.

I've never tried it. I always thought the stories were bullshit, but after reading this, I think I might go for it.

When I was young and dumb, I drank a bottle of Robotussin. I got the same type of "detached" high.

Robitussin is also disasssociative. Very similar in chemistry and effect to PCP and Ketamine. A good analysis I once read explained that these drugs reach their peaks through an opposite path from psychedelics. I would say they are very negative.

Salvia is nothing like any hallucinogen. I'm extremely confident I didn't hallucinate.

Is this shit that everyone is making a big fuss about?

Kid Joe wrote:

Robitussin is also disasssociative. Very similar in chemistry and effect to PCP and Ketamine. A good analysis I once read explained that these drugs reach their peaks through an opposite path from psychedelics. I would say they are very negative.

Salvia is nothing like any hallucinogen. I'm extremely confident I didn't hallucinate.

So you're crazy?

Me and a whole bunch of others. I couldn't comprehend exactly what was being described until I broke through, myself. Remember, this experience, and similar ones, have factored heavily in many cultures.

There is more going on than any of us can fathom.

There is a site called Erowid that hosts hundreds of testimonies. Terrence Mckenna believed that substances like these contributed to the evolution of the human psyche. Some believe that the brain's ability to transcend this barrier accounts fir "alien abductions". Crazy it not, this was more than me seeing things. Things saw ne, too.

And mescaline makes people see God as a dragon named Quatzlcoatl. That doesn't make it LESS crazy because more people believe it. Scientology is few hundred thousand strong.

Rip a fat pipe of 30x and find out. I know you say you've tried it, and I totally believe you. I didn't break through my first few times, either. If you ever do, you will agree with what I'm saying.

I've never done 30x...it's been years but whatever it was like 15 or some shit. My trip only lasted like 5 minutes, but it definitely felt like years. I saw a dude clear a bowl from an ice water bong of 30x or some shit and he instantly passed out, woke back up, wondered around the room, fell down again...it was straight ridiculous.

Salvia is horrible! It tastes terrible, and messes with your head some days after you smoked it.

No thanks.....

I like knowing what's going around me and having control of what I see. I tried it once and...smh.

I don't think I could ever mess with hallucinogenics again be them legal or illegal.

But if it works for you, then more power to you, especially since there are no drug tests that detect the substance, and it's legal.

I'd probably have a Rosewood flashback on that shit......................