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PostSubject: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeSun 28 Mar 2010, 3:03 pm

Everyone knows I'm a skeptic of America and with good reason. Micheal Moore just solidify those reasons with his greatest body of work. The movie starts out with video footage from surveillance
cameras of actual bank robberies. Then there is a montage comparing America to Ancient Rome with striking accuracy. You can't argue with the facts. The movie even tends to border into Zeitgiest territory.

One excellent example of how America has gotten out of hand is when Moore reminiscences on his own child hood a time in America were a unskilled blue collar worker could support a family of 4 or more with one income in a decent neighborhood in a nice home,have 4 weeks of vacation, and an excellent retirement package. Nowadays even a skilled worker such as a mechanic or plumber would struggle under those conditions. This reminds me of the Jackson. How Joe Jackson supported a family of (8?) with just a factory job. Capitalism means there is no security for any one in America.

The movie mainly delves on how these corporate banks controlled by the mega-elite control everyone and everything. Micheal Moore is a bit of a comical genius as he approached these big companies with a potato sack asking for the American's people money back. He even focused on a Citigroup memo were they state America is not a democracy but a plutony (?) or something like that,were the mega rich just controls and dictates everything. That's funny since Noam Chomsky stated the same thing but called America a poliarchy. These elitist even control our votes and mastermind elections so even our votes don't mean shit. Ahhhh, the movie even focuses on the holy messiah Barrack Obama. Like KRS said people were ready to revolt until Obama popped up outta thin air. The film stated that Obama received campaign money from the same evil corporations that got us into this mess.

As the zeitgeist movie stated that once you punch the clock your work place is a dictatorship. (And people wonder why I'm a cab driver) . Moore uncovers work places that are actually ran like a democracy. A company that manufactures medical equipment and another company that bakes bread. In these companies the employee,no matter how low on the totem pole, has equal say in what goes on and the wealth is distributed on a basis on what you put into the company. If only all work places practiced this law of democracy.

If there's any gripes about the movie is that it tends to support--vaguely--the concept of socialism. In my opinion that's not a bad thing.

Go to this link and watch it for free if you're interested in the truth:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/capitalism-love-story/Capitalism-A Love Story Capitalism-love-story
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeSun 28 Mar 2010, 10:43 pm

I always wanted to see this movie. I just found a torrent for it...
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeSun 28 Mar 2010, 11:40 pm

I still haven't seen Sicko, either.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeMon 29 Mar 2010, 9:25 am

Thanks Trott..Ill definitely give this a watch tonight...


Off-Note: Check out '30 Days' seasons 1&2...A Docu-Series starring Morgan Spurlock and is done with the same premis as his film, 'Super Size Me'. For example: a Right Wing, uber-Patriotic, Minuteman(those people that patrol the US Border, freelanced) moves in/works with a Mexican immigrant family in LA for 30 days...an Athiest Soccer Mom moves into the household of a picture-perfect Christian family....Morgan and his wife leave their life behind for 30 days and live under the poverty line working dead end jobs barely scraping by...etc


the best show your not watching..check it out
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeThu 29 Apr 2010, 4:54 am

I've seen Michael Moore's latest film, and I agree with what you posted Trotter. It was a great film, but I really wonder what took these people so long to revolt? This country has been jacked up for many, many years already. They have been spending money left and right. What exactly was the straw that broke the camel's back?
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeThu 29 Apr 2010, 6:01 pm

Michael Moore = Fred Savage in costume
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeThu 29 Apr 2010, 6:05 pm

Indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeTue 08 Jun 2010, 1:31 am

Michael Moore is a twat, so I don't have much desire to see this movie, but I just finished reading End the Fed which has given me quite a wake up call to the history of our country's monetary system. Free market capitalism isn't perfect, but it's not as evil and sinister as it's spun out to be at times. If we could keep the government out of the free market, the better off we'd all be in the long run.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeTue 08 Jun 2010, 2:37 am

Haterex wrote:
Michael Moore is a twat, so I don't have much desire to see this movie, but I just finished reading End the Fed which has given me quite a wake up call to the history of our country's monetary system. Free market capitalism isn't perfect, but it's not as evil and sinister as it's spun out to be at times. If we could keep the government out of the free market, the better off we'd all be in the long run.

Moore's atwat for calling this country out? In reality he prolly loves this country more than the typical American. And he wants this country to hold up to its values and personifications. I concur the average Americans loves money more than country whether they admit it or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeTue 08 Jun 2010, 9:55 am

Haterex wrote:
Michael Moore is a twat, so I don't have much desire to see this movie, but I just finished reading End the Fed which has given me quite a wake up call to the history of our country's monetary system. Free market capitalism isn't perfect, but it's not as evil and sinister as it's spun out to be at times. If we could keep the government out of the free market, the better off we'd all be in the long run.

Well, just like every other ideology, capitalism is a myth. I mean, it looks great on paper but we've yet to actually experience it. Double standards a corporate socialism kind of undermine the free market.

Socialism for the elite only? What the fuck is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeTue 08 Jun 2010, 10:05 pm

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Haterex wrote:
Michael Moore is a twat, so I don't have much desire to see this movie, but I just finished reading End the Fed which has given me quite a wake up call to the history of our country's monetary system. Free market capitalism isn't perfect, but it's not as evil and sinister as it's spun out to be at times. If we could keep the government out of the free market, the better off we'd all be in the long run.

Well, just like every other ideology, capitalism is a myth. I mean, it looks great on paper but we've yet to actually experience it. Double standards a corporate socialism kind of undermine the free market.

Socialism for the elite only? What the fuck is that?


I hear you, and I think corporate welfare is repulsive too. Another thing I get tired of is the I Hate Obama For Any and Everything crowd calling his policies socialist - corporatist is more accurate. & Bush was a corporatist too, republicans are no different when it comes to their interests. We haven't had true free market capitalism in this country since at least 1913. Socialism, corporatism and fiat currencies are doomed to failure, history clearly tells us this. Capitalism may not be perfect, but it's a good system in a reasonably moral society is what I've come to believe.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeTue 08 Jun 2010, 11:54 pm

What is amazing is how the corporate media has equated capitalism with democracy. That's a major point I noticed while watching this Moore episode. So to insult or even debate capitalism is to deliver a blow to democracy. Actually, now that I think of it, that rhetoric was established with Cold War propaganda.

Funny how the people of Europe and even Canada have been able to merge economic ideologies while maintaining fully functional democracies.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism-A Love Story   Capitalism-A Love Story Icon_minitimeWed 09 Jun 2010, 2:52 pm

The Federal Reserve is having to bailout Europe, their socialist systems are failing, and ours will too. It might last a while, but those systems eventually collapse on themselves. The reason I feel capitalism aligns best with a free democratic society is because it's the system that's most respectful to personal liberty.
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