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PostSubject: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 2:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 2:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 3:09 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 3:35 pm

Nope. One of the best no doubt but I don't agree. IMO most of the time someone with limited listening or interest in southern rap would think this.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:18 pm

Nope. It's not the best.

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:21 pm

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Nope. One of the best no doubt but I don't agree. IMO most of the time someone with limited listening or interest in southern rap would think this.

well im not the most hardcore southern listener but i feel like ive heard enough to make this type of statement.

i cant see some no name southern rapper that i havent heard putting out a better album than this, and dont you think Grip It! is the best?? GB is much bigger than UGK so how can you say what you just said to me?
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:21 pm

just feedin fuel to the fire in this forum...tried to wake it up with somethin bold
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:23 pm

It's my favorite as well, of course I'm sort of just starting my Southern Hip Hop adventure.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:26 pm

KRob86 wrote:
Nope. One of the best no doubt but I don't agree. IMO most of the time someone with limited listening or interest in southern rap would think this.

Typical Kev response. lol...though he's got me pegged for sure.

This album is right up there in the top 5 for me. I would give Goodie Mob "Soul Food" & a couple Outkast albums the edge first though...
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:47 pm

Face has an album or two that i like more. Kast has two albums i like more. I may also like Soul Food more too. Truth be told, a lot of people don't think this is UGK's best album. I certainly can't fault anyone for thinking this is the best, but it's not my fav.

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 4:55 pm

ATLiens, Mr. Scarface Is Back, and then probably this

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 5:18 pm

Not the best for me. Would make my top 50 I suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 5:23 pm

Falls somewhere in the top 10 Southern albums for me. I can't put it ahead of "Atliens", "Soul Food", "The Ressurection", "Somethin Serious", or even "Southernplayalistic". It's right there with "Mr. Scarface is Back" to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 5:42 pm

Nappy Roots, Outkast, Cunninlynguists, and Scarface all have better albums. But Ridin Dirty is definitely up there. Those long ass skits attached to the songs don't help. And, the Fuck My Car song plain sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 5:55 pm

ATLiens is the GREATEST southern hip-hop album ever created IMO!

and Outkast is the GREATEST southern hip-hop group

followed by Goodie Mob and then Little Brother IN MY OPINION
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 10:20 pm

Ridin Dirty is cornerstone of Southern Hip-Hop and in my top 5.

Personally I don't see southernplayalistic, somethin serious, or dare I say even Resurrection beating it. I just don't see. Coming close but naw.

And what Nappy Roots album is better than Ridin Dirty? I'm merely curious. To quote Vincent Vega, "That's a bold statement."
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 11:48 pm

Little Brother doesn't deserve to share shelf space with UGK, 8Ball & MJG, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Cunninglynguists, Geto Boys, 3 6 Mafia, Tru, Hot Boys, or 2 Live Crew.

That said, I completely disagree with Slang.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 11:57 pm

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Little Brother doesn't deserve to share shelf space with UGK, 8Ball & MJG, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Cunninglynguists, Geto Boys, 3 6 Mafia, Tru, Hot Boys, or 2 Live Crew.

That said, I completely disagree with Slang.

I agree with all that except take Cunn off the list. Powell does not like much southern music so ignore that shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:18 am

Chicken, Watermelon, & Grits is flawless. Ridin Dirty, as I pointed out, is not.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:18 am

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Aquemini is the GREATEST southern hip-hop album ever created IMO!

and Outkast is the GREATEST southern hip-hop group


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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:21 am

K Rob, I'm surprised you don't dig Cunninlynguists.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:22 am

KRob86 wrote:
N3R0N0N Of 0nslaught3r wrote:
Little Brother doesn't deserve to share shelf space with UGK, 8Ball & MJG, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Cunninglynguists, Geto Boys, 3 6 Mafia, Tru, Hot Boys, or 2 Live Crew.

That said, I completely disagree with Slang.

I agree with all that except take Cunn off the list. Powell does not like much southern music so ignore that shit.

I'm not a CL fan myself, but a lot of people dig them so I threw them in there. Hell, I'd put Odd Squad, Jim Crow, Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz, Poison Clan, and 10 other groups on that list as well, honestly.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:25 am

^^^^Little Brother is better than every group you mentioned except Outkast, Geto Boys, and UGK. Goodie Mob's Soul Food is great, but LB has a better discog.

Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz? C'Mon Son! GTFOH with that bullshit!
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:43 am

How about you open your damn mind to more music outside of the region you reside in. Check your 2010 list and compare it to mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 1:21 am

Southernplayalistic is the best, but I can see Ridin Dirty in the top 10 maybe top 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 1:41 am

N3R0N0N Of 0nslaught3r wrote:
How about you open your damn mind to more music outside of the region you reside in. Check your 2010 list and compare it to mine.

I've opened my mind to music from everywhere, but Lil Jon sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 1:44 am

Lil Jon's Beats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>9th Wonder beats, easily. Any producer will tell you that.

And I can break down why on some nerdy producer shit as to why as well if you wanna get into Lil Jon's shit is repititive or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 2:20 am

Ridin Dirty is miles better than Watermelon, Chicken and Grits
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 2:25 am

"Lil Jon's Beats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>9th Wonder beats, easily. Any producer will tell you that"

That is, indeed, the truth.

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 2:31 am

Lil Jon might be a better producer, but his music sucks. I'd much rather listen to Little Brother, who has subject matter and dope rhymes. I don't know why so many people in this forum hate on them so much, but it's whatever. I dig them so that's all that matters.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 3:06 am

(Most of the time) I'd rather listen to 9th Wonder, too. And, I don't think people actually 'hate on' Little Brother; they just see them as overrated IMO

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 4:29 am

fuck my car is a fucking classic song...this album along witth all ugk albums top my list.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 8:25 am

I seriously hate that song. And that dude fucking mumbling for two minutes at a time is annoying. Other than that I would easily have Ridin Dirty at the top.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 10:12 am

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Lil Jon might be a better producer, but his music sucks. I'd much rather listen to Little Brother, who has subject matter and dope rhymes. I don't know why so many people in this forum hate on them so much, but it's whatever. I dig them so that's all that matters.

Dammit, KJ, it's really hard to argue with you when you're being so sensible. I obviously don't think Lil Jon's music sucks, but I can understand people not enjoying his simplistic party music.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 11:14 am

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fuck my car is a fucking classic song...this album along witth all ugk albums top my list.

co sign, that song knocks
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 11:32 am

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Lil Jon might be a better producer, but his music sucks. I'd much rather listen to Little Brother, who has subject matter and dope rhymes. I don't know why so many people in this forum hate on them so much, but it's whatever. I dig them so that's all that matters.

It's not hate. It's because they are overrated by so many east coast biased fanboys. They're a nice little group, but they don't have any consensus classics, and there are plenty of southern groups who have multiple classics under their belt. Also, those groups have done more to define and advance the region. LB hasn't done anything that hasn't been done before. UGK has multiple classics. Goodie has 2 classics. Kast has 3-4 classics. Geto Boys have multiple classics. Eightball & MJG have multiple classics. Three 6 Mafia has multiple classics to some(albeit on a smaller level). 2 Live Crew has multiple classics. They're all different. They're all original in ther own right. They're not some bastardized offspring of The Native Tongues Posse.

LB is placed on a pedestal that is not justified or deserved. They are a quality group however.

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:00 pm

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Lil Jon might be a better producer, but his music sucks. I'd much rather listen to Little Brother, who has subject matter and dope rhymes. I don't know why so many people in this forum hate on them so much, but it's whatever. I dig them so that's all that matters.

It's not hate. It's because they are overrated by so many east coast biased fanboys. They're a nice little group, but they don't have any consensus classics, and there are plenty of southern groups who have multiple classics under their belt. Also, those groups have done more to define and advance the region. LB hasn't done anything that hasn't been done before. UGK has multiple classics. Goodie has 2 classics. Kast has 3-4 classics. Geto Boys have multiple classics. Eightball & MJG have multiple classics. Three 6 Mafia has multiple classics to some(albeit on a smaller level). 2 Live Crew has multiple classics. They're all different. They're all original in ther own right. They're not some bastardized offspring of The Native Tongues Posse.

LB is placed on a pedestal that is not justified or deserved. They are a quality group however.

Nobody's calling LB the dopest group in hip-hop history, but they're dope nonetheless. I give 2 Live Crew props for being one of the first southern groups to ever blow up. But they're one dimensional and subpar lyrically, same goes for Three Six Mafia.

As for classics, I consider the Minstrel Show and The Listening classics. The latter album may be 4.5 stars objectively but I can listen to every track on it easily.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:01 pm

i mostly agree with myers, LB is a dope group but are definitely overrated by their fans, and their also overrated by underground heads who just believe everything from the south is bad except groups like LB and CL


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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:19 pm

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Lil Jon might be a better producer, but his music sucks. I'd much rather listen to Little Brother, who has subject matter and dope rhymes. I don't know why so many people in this forum hate on them so much, but it's whatever. I dig them so that's all that matters.

It's not hate. It's because they are overrated by so many east coast biased fanboys. They're a nice little group, but they don't have any consensus classics, and there are plenty of southern groups who have multiple classics under their belt. Also, those groups have done more to define and advance the region. LB hasn't done anything that hasn't been done before. UGK has multiple classics. Goodie has 2 classics. Kast has 3-4 classics. Geto Boys have multiple classics. Eightball & MJG have multiple classics. Three 6 Mafia has multiple classics to some(albeit on a smaller level). 2 Live Crew has multiple classics. They're all different. They're all original in ther own right. They're not some bastardized offspring of The Native Tongues Posse.

LB is placed on a pedestal that is not justified or deserved. They are a quality group however.

Nobody's calling LB the dopest group in hip-hop history, but they're dope nonetheless. I give 2 Live Crew props for being one of the first southern groups to ever blow up. But they're one dimensional and subpar lyrically, same goes for Three Six Mafia.

As for classics, I consider the Minstrel Show and The Listening classics. The latter album may be 4.5 stars objectively but I can listen to every track on it easily.

I don't disagree with any of that KJ. I was just explaining my point of view as to why you think LB is hated on. I don't hate on them at all. In all honesty, they have a legit gripe to be included in the top 10 southern groups due to their strong discog. When people include LB in the top 3, it comes across as a lack of knowledge of southern hip hop.

I also agree that The Minstrel Show is a classic, and The Listening is 4.5 stars. What i meant by lack of a consensus classic is that you will get a split over which album of theirs is a classic. Most will cite The Minstrel Show or The Listening as classics, and some people like Powell think Chittlin Circuit is a classic. There just seems to be a split amongst LB fans as to which album is a classic. They don't have an album like ATLiens, Aquemini, Soul Food, Grip It, Ridin Dirty for them to hang their hat on.

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 12:38 pm

Great points Terry and Slang, I agree with those last statements.

Fuck My Car is the shit but it does seem misplaced with the flow of the album. Ridin Dirty is easily one of the top 10 best southern albums period imo.

KJ you know I got luv for LB but I think a lot of their props and overating comes from their east coast sound or should I say east coast compatibility. Nothing about LB is traditional southern sounding, nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 1:06 pm

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Lil Jon might be a better producer, but his music sucks. I'd much rather listen to Little Brother, who has subject matter and dope rhymes. I don't know why so many people in this forum hate on them so much, but it's whatever. I dig them so that's all that matters.

It's not hate. It's because they are overrated by so many east coast biased fanboys. They're a nice little group, but they don't have any consensus classics, and there are plenty of southern groups who have multiple classics under their belt. Also, those groups have done more to define and advance the region. LB hasn't done anything that hasn't been done before. UGK has multiple classics. Goodie has 2 classics. Kast has 3-4 classics. Geto Boys have multiple classics. Eightball & MJG have multiple classics. Three 6 Mafia has multiple classics to some(albeit on a smaller level). 2 Live Crew has multiple classics. They're all different. They're all original in ther own right. They're not some bastardized offspring of The Native Tongues Posse.

LB is placed on a pedestal that is not justified or deserved. They are a quality group however.

Nobody's calling LB the dopest group in hip-hop history, but they're dope nonetheless. I give 2 Live Crew props for being one of the first southern groups to ever blow up. But they're one dimensional and subpar lyrically, same goes for Three Six Mafia.

As for classics, I consider the Minstrel Show and The Listening classics. The latter album may be 4.5 stars objectively but I can listen to every track on it easily.

I don't disagree with any of that KJ. I was just explaining my point of view as to why you think LB is hated on. I don't hate on them at all. In all honesty, they have a legit gripe to be included in the top 10 southern groups due to their strong discog. When people include LB in the top 3, it comes across as a lack of knowledge of southern hip hop.

I also agree that The Minstrel Show is a classic, and The Listening is 4.5 stars. What i meant by lack of a consensus classic is that you will get a split over which album of theirs is a classic. Most will cite The Minstrel Show or The Listening as classics, and some people like Powell think Chittlin Circuit is a classic. There just seems to be a split amongst LB fans as to which album is a classic. They don't have an album like ATLiens, Aquemini, Soul Food, Grip It, Ridin Dirty for them to hang their hat on.

The same way you feel about LB is the same way I feel about Cormega. I think he's a good MC but he's not among NY's elite like many in here think he is. The Realness is dope but it's not a consensus classic like Illmatic, Paid In Full, Criminal Minded, Ready To Die, Reasonable Doubt, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 1:14 pm

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Great points Terry and Slang, I agree with those last statements.

Fuck My Car is the shit but it does seem misplaced with the flow of the album. Ridin Dirty is easily one of the top 10 best southern albums period imo.

KJ you know I got luv for LB but I think a lot of their props and overating comes from their east coast sound or should I say east coast compatibility. Nothing about LB is traditional southern sounding, nothing.

I agree with what you said about Ridin Dirty. As for LB, you're right about them not sounding like traditional southern MC's, but that's EXACTLY what I like most about them besides their subject matter. I think a lot of southern hip-hop fans resent them for that. They're definitely not wack MC's, it's just that they're different from the rest of the pack.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 2:09 pm

"They're definitely not wack MC's, it's just that they're different from the rest of the pack."

Uh... Define 'they'

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 5:11 pm

Slang Editorial wrote:
Ridin Dirty is miles better than Watermelon, Chicken and Grits
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 5:17 pm

Arrested Development would also have an album in my top 10. Maybe two albums.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 9:16 pm

Shaun wrote:
"They're definitely not wack MC's, it's just that they're different from the rest of the pack."

Uh... Define 'they'

Little Brother, fool! Read entire posts before asking questions like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 9:57 pm

N3R0N0N Of 0nslaught3r wrote:
Little Brother doesn't deserve to share shelf space with UGK, 8Ball & MJG, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Cunninglynguists, Geto Boys, 3 6 Mafia, Tru, Hot Boys, or 2 Live Crew.

That said, I completely disagree with Slang.

I LIKE Little Brother better than every group you just mentioned except Outkast and Goodie Mob and this is the way I feel about things...I'm familiar with all of those other groups but Little Brother is better than them to me..again except for 'Kast and Goodie
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 10:02 pm

"Little Brother, fool! Read entire posts before asking questions like that."

smh. It was a joke. Because Big Pooh is wack

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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 10:07 pm

Shaun wrote:
"Little Brother, fool! Read entire posts before asking questions like that."

smh. It was a joke. Because Big Pooh is wack

Big Pooh is average..he's not wack Shaun..stop that...lol

now Gucci Mane is WACK....Jeezy is WACK....Big Pooh is average...not a great emcee and not a wack emcee but somewhere in between..
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PostSubject: Re: Ridin Dirty is the best southern rap album of all time IMO   Sun 18 Apr 2010, 10:09 pm

Eh. Close enough.. lol

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