Lawrence Taylor arrested for rape

damn, I just saw his story on AE about his drug addiction... innocent into proven guilty is what I say...

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

damn, I just saw his story on AE about his drug addiction... innocent into proven guilty is what I say...

In Utopian society, yes! However a black man with multiple arrests and a legendary drug problem is not. It's not right, but it's the truth.

Hey, here's a thought: sometimes men rape women. They can't all be innocent

Presuming he's innocent presumes she's lying. As awful as it is to Damn him if he didn't, what about her if he did?

Kid Joe wrote:

Presuming he's innocent presumes she's lying. As awful as it is to Damn him if he didn't, what about her if he did?

She shouldn't have asked for it.

T. Myers wrote:

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

damn, I just saw his story on AE about his drug addiction... innocent into proven guilty is what I say...

In Utopian society, yes! However a black man with multiple arrests and a legendary drug problem is not. It's not right, but it's the truth.

Spoken like a true Anglo-Saxon...both of you...

It's been reported that they found a condom, and if that's true, all they need is DNA from both of them on that, and he's done for.

Jason wrote:

It's been reported that they found a condom, and if that's true, all they need is DNA from both of them on that, and he's done for.

Because only rapists use condoms?

The girl is underage.

Well that was news to me... they say there was a pimp involved somehow... I think I'd have to see the girl, look at all the facts, and etc. before I pass judgment on this... big line between crackhead hiring a ho... and crackhead knowingly raping a child.

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

Well that was news to me... they say there was a pimp involved somehow... I think I'd have to see the girl, look at all the facts, and etc. before I pass judgment on this... big line between crackhead hiring a ho... and crackhead knowingly raping a child.

Pretty much...

I'm not gonna draw any conclusions until more evidence is out there either, and I agree that there is a difference, but if he had sex with her, then he deserves to go to jail. The question would then become for how long, depending on all the other details.

I have my reservations about certain things.

I mean technically it would be breaking the law... but certain circumstances I just don't agree. If you meet a girl at a club, see her get served alcohol and IDed, etc. etc. etc. and sleep with her - and turns out she was underage - do you deserve to go to jail or be labeled a sex offender?

I mean if she looked 12 and had a stuffed animal with her it is different, but at the same time I think certain situations aren't necessarily fair.

It's reasonable to presume that someone who has been allowed into a bar is 21 years old, and that is actually a workable legal defense. It's not reasonable to presume that some hooker with a pimp is of legal age. So yes, if someone has sex with an underage prostitute, they deserve to be charged under the statutory rape laws, and be labeled a sex offender if found guilty. If the situation is ambiguous, make sure the girl is legal.

Most of those laws do not have a state of mind element - underage equals breaking the law. it's a workable defense to the extent you can try to convince a jury to let you off even if you technically did break the law.

And I don't know... I tend to assume hoes working the strip are of age. Sure there is an underage market out there - but if a man asks for a hoe, and doesn't specify he wants an underage one, I think the assumption is he wanted someone of age and was working with that assumption. Just because the whole thing is illegal doesn't mean he didn't go in with a certain state of mind.

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

Most of those laws do not have a state of mind element - underage equals breaking the law. it's a workable defense to the extent you can try to convince a jury to let you off even if you technically did break the law.

And I don't know... I tend to assume hoes working the strip are of age. Sure there is an underage market out there - but if a man asks for a hoe, and doesn't specify he wants an underage one, I think the assumption is he wanted someone of age and was working with that assumption. Just because the whole thing is illegal doesn't mean he didn't go in with a certain state of mind.

It's not reasonable to presume that pimps are checking IDs, bottom line.

Jason wrote:

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

Most of those laws do not have a state of mind element - underage equals breaking the law. it's a workable defense to the extent you can try to convince a jury to let you off even if you technically did break the law.

And I don't know... I tend to assume hoes working the strip are of age. Sure there is an underage market out there - but if a man asks for a hoe, and doesn't specify he wants an underage one, I think the assumption is he wanted someone of age and was working with that assumption. Just because the whole thing is illegal doesn't mean he didn't go in with a certain state of mind.

It's not reasonable to presume that pimps are checking IDs, bottom line.

Would it be reasonable to presume that children have parents or guardians that would report the missing or be concerned if their child was hoeing? Making underage hoes an uncommon thing or at the very least something you would have to specifically ask for? Just because prostitution is illegal doesn't make everything about it unreasonable. I think it would be reasonable to think a pimp for the most part would be dealing with hoes of age.

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

Jason wrote:

Eastern Rap Porn wrote:

Most of those laws do not have a state of mind element - underage equals breaking the law. it's a workable defense to the extent you can try to convince a jury to let you off even if you technically did break the law.

And I don't know... I tend to assume hoes working the strip are of age. Sure there is an underage market out there - but if a man asks for a hoe, and doesn't specify he wants an underage one, I think the assumption is he wanted someone of age and was working with that assumption. Just because the whole thing is illegal doesn't mean he didn't go in with a certain state of mind.

It's not reasonable to presume that pimps are checking IDs, bottom line.

Would it be reasonable to presume that children have parents or guardians that would report the missing or be concerned if their child was hoeing? Making underage hoes an uncommon thing or at the very least something you would have to specifically ask for? Just because prostitution is illegal doesn't make everything about it unreasonable. I think it would be reasonable to think a pimp for the most part would be dealing with hoes of age.

No, I just don't see how that would be reasonable. The fact that there are underage prostitutes, who are runaways, is fairly widely known. The idea that a pimp is an inherently untrustworthy figure is pretty obvious. If you just trust that they sent you a prostitute that is 18 or older, then you'd just have to not care if they did or not, which means you deserve the punishment.

I don't think it is that clear. I think a good argument could be made that the expectation would be of age.

SRP great points and Jason I see where you coming from also. But lets be real someone with some common judgement can usually tell if a girl is underage just by the way she may act or look. I know there are young girls out there with grown women bodies but most of the time the face and personality tells no lies.

Now on the other hand if you are a man and have ever been in any sexual situation you are not always thinking clearly. A lot of lines can get crossed thinking with that dickhead. How much shit has went down because of heat of the moment?

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

damn, I just saw his story on AE about his drug addiction... innocent into proven guilty is what I say...

It isn't often that I agree with Pedro, but I 100% co-sign that statement.

"And I don't know... I tend to assume hoes working the strip are of age."

Pimps aren't reasonable by nature. Their very "profession" is that of a parasite. They'll leech whoever is available. When it comes to streetwalkers a large portion started when they were underage. Pimps break a bitch as early as possible. Those who end up working the longest usually started the youngest so they have less "real" marketable skills to stop. If LT wanted to buy some ass he should've called an escort not some pimp. Pimps ain't exactly known for their honesty or forthrightness. Pimping underage girls is also good leverage for extortion against customers. If the customer is slow they'll pay. Playing patty cake with the kids is a career ender.

I really hope that this isn't true. LT is my favorite football player of all time and I'd hate for his legacy to be tarnished by some bullshit like this. I won't think any less of him personally, but the general public might despite the fact that he was the best defensive player of all time.

Everyone close to him that has spoke on the situation says that this seems out of character for him, and I agree. I met him once at an autograph signing and he seems like a stand up guy. I hope and pray that he beats these charges.

KJ Styles wrote:

I really hope that this isn't true. LT is my favorite football player of all time and I'd hate for his legacy to be tarnished by some bullshit like this. I won't think any less of him personally, but the general public might despite the fact that he was the best defensive player of all time.

Everyone close to him that has spoke on the situation says that this seems out of character for him, and I agree. I met him once at an autograph signing and he seems like a stand up guy. I hope and pray that he beats these charges.

Pretty much that whole shit is ridiculous.

You won't think any less of him if its true? What does that say about your values? It's OK to fuck kids if you can rush the pass?

Everyone close to him says its out of character? Really? Nobody said "LT always did like fucking teenagers"?

You agree, huh? You met him at a PR gig and he seemed on the level, did he?

Kid Joe wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

I really hope that this isn't true. LT is my favorite football player of all time and I'd hate for his legacy to be tarnished by some bullshit like this. I won't think any less of him personally, but the general public might despite the fact that he was the best defensive player of all time.

Everyone close to him that has spoke on the situation says that this seems out of character for him, and I agree. I met him once at an autograph signing and he seems like a stand up guy. I hope and pray that he beats these charges.

Pretty much that whole shit is ridiculous.

You won't think any less of him if its true? What does that say about your values? It's OK to fuck kids if you can rush the pass?

Everyone close to him says its out of character? Really? Nobody said "LT always did like fucking teenagers"?

You agree, huh? You met him at a PR gig and he seemed on the level, did he?

I look at it like this. If (and ONLY IF) he had sex with the girl with the knowledge that she was underage, then he deserves to be punished for it. Anything less than that is reasonable doubt.

That being said, I'm not gonna remember him as a rapist, I'm gonna remember him for being a dominant linebacker. The same way I remember OJ for being a dominant running back, and Chris Benoit for being a great wrestler despite what they may have done.

Fuck the legal system, God is the ULTIMATE judge and jury. He knows the REAL truth behind this and EVERY case. If someone is truly guilty, God will punish them far worse than the legal system ever could dream of. But I would hate to see this case end up like Tupac's or Mike Tyson's rape cases did, in which the bitch cried rape because they weren't getting paid off, and the jury voted against them just to give them shit. I'll be pissed off if that happens to LT.

"I look at it like this. If (and ONLY IF) he had sex with the girl with the knowledge that she was underage, then he deserves to be punished for it. "

Isn't he married?

No, KJ, that's how the Roman laws worked. Ignorance of the law doesn't excuse you from following the law.

N3R0N0N Of 0nslaught3r wrote:

No, KJ, that's how the Roman laws worked. Ignorance of the law doesn't excuse you from following the law.

There's 16 year old girls nowadays who look well into their 20's, and are more developed than many women much older than them.

In fact, there's a lot of younger women who won't even get carded going to bars or clubs, yet younger looking men will ALWAYS get carded even if they're well over 21. It still happens to me occasionally, and some of the people that have carded me are YOUNGER than me.

If this really did happen, I'm willing to bet that she told him that she was in her 20's when she was actually 16. Some bitches do shit like that.

And Shaun, yeah he's married. I don't condone infidelity but that's up to his wife on how she chooses to handle that situation. I'm willing to bet that more athletes and entertainers cheat on their spouses than don't though.

He was told the girl was 19...

I mean I seen plenty of high school girls today that would pass for of age.... too many... it's that steroids in the meat and milk...

Super Chron Flight Bros --Deleted Scenes is killer

"He was told the girl was 19..."

Then he's a fool for trusting a pimp. Is it really inconceivable that a PIMP might lie to you. It was an illegal transaction to begin with. He should've gone to an escort like he had some sense if absolutely needed to get his rocks off.

"In fact, there's a lot of younger women who won't even get carded going to bars or clubs, yet younger looking men will ALWAYS get carded even if they're well over 21. It still happens to me occasionally, and some of the people that have carded me are YOUNGER than me."

That's just straight business man. More women means more men shelling out dough. Too many dudes means less drinking and less drinks being bought for the women. They want optimum ratio. Women rarely pay to get in but they break dudes at the door because they know they'll pay to see them. If a borderline chick that's hot shows up they'll take the risk that some dude will need to buy some liquid confidence or serve her some.