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PostSubject: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 8:46 am

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla

Z-Ro vs. Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck

Jadakiss vs Styles P

Eightball vs. MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway

Method Man vs. Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik

Erick Sermon vs. PMD

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 10:03 am

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi-Andre by quite a bit

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp-Cee-Lo by quite a bit

Krayzie vs. Bizzy-Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla-One Be Lo

Z-Ro vs. Trae-N/A

50 Cent vs. Young Buck-50 by quite a bit

Jadakiss vs Styles P-Jada

Eightball vs. MJG-gonna go with MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X-Puba

Kurupt vs. Daz-Kurupt

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile-Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway-Sigel

Method Man vs. Ghostface-Meth

Raekwon vs. GZA-GZA

Run vs. DMC-Run

Eazy E vs. MC Ren-MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B-Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9-N/A

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik-Akrobatik

Erick Sermon vs. PMD-E Double
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 10:08 am

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla

Z-Ro vs. Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck (Maybe 50 on certain tracks)

Jadakiss vs Styles P

Eightball vs. MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile (I own one Hot Boys album, but never listened to it)

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway - N/A

Method Man vs. Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA (Very easy pick)

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren (another easy one)

Pimp C vs. Bun B (Push)

The Jacka vs. AP.9

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik - N/A

Erick Sermon vs. PMD
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 10:10 am

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi
Andre 3000

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp
Cee-Lo

Krayzie vs. Bizzy
Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla
One Be Lo, but closer than you thnk

Z-Ro vs. Trae
havent heard enough Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck
maybe Young Buck actually

Jadakiss vs Styles P
this is a Push for me

Eightball vs. MJG
MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X
always preferred Sadat X

Kurupt vs. Daz
Kurupt

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile
Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway
Beans, close though

Method Man vs. Ghostface
Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA
GZA

Run vs. DMC
Run

Eazy E vs. MC Ren
MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B
Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9
Jacka from what ive heard of AP.9, not the most informed vote though

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik
Mr. Lif

Erick Sermon vs. PMD
ive always dug Sermon slightly more
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 10:36 am

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi-this is closer than some would like to admit

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla

Z-Ro vs. Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck

Jadakiss vs Styles P

Eightball vs. MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway

Method Man vs. Ghostface-by a hair

Raekwon vs. GZA

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik

Erick Sermon vs. PMD

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 12:45 pm

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi- but Big Boi is creepin up on him.

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla- who cares.

Z-Ro vs. Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck- a while back I would have pick Buck but 50 has been way more consistant.

Jadakiss vs Styles P- Styles use to be my fav but he just doesn't move me much anymore.

Eightball vs. MJG- Same as above.

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway

Method Man vs. Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik

Erick Sermon vs. PMD
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 2:47 pm

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi- 3 Stacks, but pretty close

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp- Cee-Lo

Krayzie vs. Bizzy- Krayzie

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla- Real close, but I'll go with One Be Lo

Z-Ro vs. Trae- Who cares

50 Cent vs. Young Buck- Buck

Jadakiss vs Styles P- Styles, easily too

Eightball vs. MJG- Who cares

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X- Puba

Kurupt vs. Daz- Kurupt (as a rapper)

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile- Juve in a close one

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway- Freeway is doper to me

Method Man vs. Ghostface- Ghost

Raekwon vs. GZA- GZA. Rae is overrated

Run vs. DMC- DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren- Ren, in the easiest matchup here

Pimp C vs. Bun B- Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9- AP.9 is the better rapper

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik- Lif, barely

Erick Sermon vs. PMD- Sermon

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 3:18 pm

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla

Z-Ro vs. Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck

Jadakiss vs Styles P- Closest matchup on the board. Styles has a better discog but Jada is a better line for line lyricist.

Eightball vs. MJG- Most will probably disagree, but I like MJG's style a little better. Both are dope though.

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X- Another close matchup

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway- The Stimulus Package is the best album between either of them, but Beans has been more consistent IMO.

Method Man vs. Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9- Neither

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik

Erick Sermon vs. PMD
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 4:44 pm

Styles does not have a betta discog than Jada to me. Kiss The Game Goodbye and Last Kiss kills Styles discog except for Gangster and A Gentleman.

Also I would have picked Beans over Free but after all that whining he did about Jay I lost a lot of respect for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:06 pm

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Styles does not have a betta discog than Jada to me. Kiss The Game Goodbye and Last Kiss kills Styles discog except for Gangster and A Gentleman.

Also I would have picked Beans over Free but after all that whining he did about Jay I lost a lot of respect for him.

I'd take ANY of Styles' albums over The Last Kiss. That album hasn't aged well and it's only been a little over a year LOL.

All of Styles' albums are 4 stars or better IMO. and my favorite Jada album BTW is Kiss Of Death.

As for Beans & Free. Beans kills him EASILY. He's spit better verses and has dropped more memorable shit. The Stimulus Package is the only Free album with any lasting replay value. I'd take The Truth over anything else by Freeway, and Feel It In The Air is easily the best track between either of them IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:10 pm

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KRob86 wrote:
Styles does not have a betta discog than Jada to me. Kiss The Game Goodbye and Last Kiss kills Styles discog except for Gangster and A Gentleman.

Also I would have picked Beans over Free but after all that whining he did about Jay I lost a lot of respect for him.

I'd take ANY of Styles' albums over The Last Kiss. That album hasn't aged well and it's only been a little over a year LOL.

All of Styles' albums are 4 stars or better IMO. and my favorite Jada album BTW is Kiss Of Death.

As for Beans & Free. Beans kills him EASILY. He's spit better verses and has dropped more memorable shit. The Stimulus Package is the only Free album with any lasting replay value. I'd take The Truth over anything else by Freeway, and Feel It In The Air is easily the best track between either of them IMO.

Philly Freeway is a really dope album
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:12 pm

Andre 3000vs. Big Boi

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla ?

Z-Ro vs. Trae

50 Cent vs. Young Buck

Jadakiss vs Styles P

Eightball vs. MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X Jamar

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway

Method Man vs. Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik ?

Erick Sermon vs. PMD
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:12 pm

"and Feel It In The Air is easily the best track between either of them IMO."

Flipside, What We Do..., The Product, and One Thing>>>>>>>>>> Feel It In The Air

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:26 pm

"I'd take ANY of Styles' albums over The Last Kiss. That album hasn't aged well and it's only been a little over a year LOL."



????

for real KJ??


Gotta disagree with that comment 10,000%...The Last Kiss is better than any Styles P solo album IMO and still gets play from me and dudes that I know to this day...that album still has more than a few bangers on it just like it did last year and when you add in that Jada is the better lyricist IMO, then it's a no brainer that Jada is going to win straight up against Panero and I like Panero too but Jada is better than him man...at least IN MY OPINION!
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:32 pm

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"I'd take ANY of Styles' albums over The Last Kiss. That album hasn't aged well and it's only been a little over a year LOL."



????

for real KJ??


Gotta disagree with that comment 10,000%...The Last Kiss is better than any Styles P solo album IMO and still gets play from me and dudes that I know to this day...that album still has more than a few bangers on it just like it did last year and when you add in that Jada is the better lyricist IMO, then it's a no brainer that Jada is going to win straight up against Panero and I like Panero too but Jada is better than him man...at least IN MY OPINION!

the Last Kiss is easily the worst album among the 2

id probly rate the albums like:

Gangster and Gentlemen
Time is Money
Kiss the Game Goodbye
Kiss of Death
Super Gangster
Last Kiss
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:40 pm

LOL umm Slang this is not a Wu-Tang Clan moment my dude...we are talking about STYLES P and JADAKISS

I had to mention that because you even put Super Gangster which is a 2.5 star album in this conversation....and over The Last Kiss?? yeah right Masta Killa...go produce a new WU banger for me man...and stay out of this right ova here...lol
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:46 pm

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LOL umm Slang this is not a Wu-Tang Clan moment my dude...we are talking about STYLES P and JADAKISS

I had to mention that because you even put Super Gangster which is a 2.5 star album in this conversation....and over The Last Kiss?? yeah right Masta Killa...go produce a new WU banger for me man...and stay out of this right ova here...lol

lol, im just speakin the truth. The Last Kiss is such a typical sounding mainstream album from the late 2000's, musically at least, and Jada is nowhere near his best on it
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 5:50 pm

I don't think Jada sounds his best on ANY of his solo efforts...he kind of reminds me of Method Man in that way....these two dudes shine most of the time on mixtapes and other people's projects (OPP)..but the only thing that was over the top typical on The Last Kiss IMO was the Neyo joint and "he's phony and she's fake"...those two were ridiculous

but the joints with Ghost and Rae and the one with Styles P and even that joint with Lil Wayne all bang IMO! The Last Kiss is a 4 star effort IMO...a very good album with some missing ingredients...
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:00 pm

"I had to mention that because you even put Super Gangster which is a 2.5 star album in this conversation....and over The Last Kiss??"

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:05 pm

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"I had to mention that because you even put Super Gangster which is a 2.5 star album in this conversation....and over The Last Kiss??"

Shaking My Head


Shaun he led that album off with Swizz Beatz "Blow Your Mind" and he also had Ray J and Akon on it...I guess he was attempting some pop moments just like Jada did on The Last Kiss but IMO Panero is too underground of an artist to even go there..it works better when Jada does it because he can fit that mold better than P IMO....P is better with the grimey dirty shit....that was a 2.5 to 3 star album IMO...
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:16 pm

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi
Big Boi pretty easily for me. I've liked him more since the first time I heard 'Kast.

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp
Cee-Lo

Krayzie vs. Bizzy
Bizzy easily for me.

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla
Hmmm, extremely close. I feel Silla is the better rapper, but I like SONOGRAM the best out of their solos.

Z-Ro vs. Trae
N/A

50 Cent vs. Young Buck
N/A

Jadakiss vs Styles P
Haven't heard any of their solo stuff. No vote.

Eightball vs. MJG
MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X
Grand Puba by a little.

Kurupt vs. Daz
Kurupt

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile
Neither.

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway
Meh, not a big fan of either. Draw.

Method Man vs. Ghostface
Ghostface for the better solo discog

Raekwon vs. GZA
GZA

Run vs. DMC
Draw....probably DMC though.

Eazy E vs. MC Ren
Hmmm, tough. Eazy E by a hair.

Pimp C vs. Bun B
Bun B is a close one. He's the better rapper, but Pimp C has his own signature style as well.

The Jacka vs. AP.9
N/A

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik
Basically a tie. I'll give it to Lif though, since he's got the slightly better solo work.

Erick Sermon vs. PMD
PMD
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:18 pm

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LOL umm Slang this is not a Wu-Tang Clan moment my dude...we are talking about STYLES P and JADAKISS

I had to mention that because you even put Super Gangster which is a 2.5 star album in this conversation....and over The Last Kiss?? yeah right Masta Killa...go produce a new WU banger for me man...and stay out of this right ova here...lol

lol, im just speakin the truth. The Last Kiss is such a typical sounding mainstream album from the late 2000's, musically at least, and Jada is nowhere near his best on it

I like the Last Kiss, but i do co-sign everything you said. 3.75 is probably what i'd rate it, and it's nowhere near better than Styles' best album. Kiss The Game Goodbye is the best solo between them IMO.

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:38 pm

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"I'd take ANY of Styles' albums over The Last Kiss. That album hasn't aged well and it's only been a little over a year LOL."



????

for real KJ??


Gotta disagree with that comment 10,000%...The Last Kiss is better than any Styles P solo album IMO and still gets play from me and dudes that I know to this day...that album still has more than a few bangers on it just like it did last year and when you add in that Jada is the better lyricist IMO, then it's a no brainer that Jada is going to win straight up against Panero and I like Panero too but Jada is better than him man...at least IN MY OPINION!

I intially thought The Last Kiss was a 4 star album because of strong tracks like What If, Letter To BIG, Cartel Gathering, and Grind Hard, but after spinning it a few times I had no inclination to spin it again save for those tracks because I then realized that it has as many lows as it does highs.

I actually co-sign Slang, The Last Kiss is the worst effort between the two in hindsight. I still spin all of Styles albums and Jada's first two from time to time, but the Last Kiss had some wackness like Who's Real, Somethin Else, Stress Ya, and the god awful Rockin With The Best. The most I can see for the album nowadays is 3.5 stars. My problem with the album was that Jada was trying to be commercial on it, and he ended up straying from his original formula of grimy, dark tracks and ill punchlines which is what made me a Jada fan to begin with.

Styles on the other hand has been the model for consistency. While neither man has delivered a classic album, all of SP's albums have replay value. That's the difference IMO.

Oh and Super Gangster, Extrodinary Gentleman beats the living shit out of The Last Kiss!!!


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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:40 pm

D.Powell wrote:
Shaun wrote:
"I had to mention that because you even put Super Gangster which is a 2.5 star album in this conversation....and over The Last Kiss??"

Shaking My Head


Shaun he led that album off with Swizz Beatz "Blow Your Mind" and he also had Ray J and Akon on it...I guess he was attempting some pop moments just like Jada did on The Last Kiss but IMO Panero is too underground of an artist to even go there..it works better when Jada does it because he can fit that mold better than P IMO....P is better with the grimey dirty shit....that was a 2.5 to 3 star album IMO...

Hmmmm, Powell.....The Last Kiss ALSO had Ray J on it. Not to mention OJ The Juiceman, Lil Wayne, and wack ass Young Jeezy on not one, but TWO tracks!!
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 6:52 pm

The Last Kiss while a obvious commercial attempt came off pretty good. I only skip the trks that KJ mentioned but the rest of the album is real good and I like the substance he put in a lot of the trks and he got more personal.

Super Gangster was damn near whack but I will revisit it just in case its just the gap of me hearing it last just speaking.

I'll rate them like this:

Gangster and Gentlemen- 4.5-4.75
Kiss the Game Goodbye- 4.25
Last Kiss- 4.0
Time is Money- 3.75
Kiss of Death- 3.75
Green Ghost Project- 3.5
Super Gangster- 3.0
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 7:47 pm

Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi

Cee-Lo vs. Big Gipp

Krayzie vs. Bizzy

One Be Lo vs. Senim Silla
N/A

Z-Ro vs. Trae
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50 Cent vs. Young Buck

Jadakiss vs Styles P

Eightball vs. MJG

Grand Puba vs. Sadat X

Kurupt vs. Daz

Lil Wayne vs. Juvenile

Beanie Sigel vs. Freeway

Method Man vs. Ghostface

Raekwon vs. GZA

Run vs. DMC

Eazy E vs. MC Ren

Pimp C vs. Bun B

The Jacka vs. AP.9
N/A

Mr. Lif vs. Akrobatik
N/A

Erick Sermon vs. PMD


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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 7:53 pm

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The Last Kiss while a obvious commercial attempt came off pretty good. I only skip the trks that KJ mentioned but the rest of the album is real good and I like the substance he put in a lot of the trks and he got more personal.

Super Gangster was damn near whack but I will revisit it just in case its just the gap of me hearing it last just speaking.

I'll rate them like this:

Gangster and Gentlemen- 4.5-4.75
Kiss the Game Goodbye- 4.25
Last Kiss- 4.0
Time is Money- 3.75
Kiss of Death- 3.75
Green Ghost Project- 3.5
Super Gangster- 3.0



I co-sign every one of these ratings....so Styles P does have the better OVERALL album between the two with Gangster and A Gentlemen but Kiss is right there with both Kiss The Game Goodbye and The Last Kiss respectively and since IMO Kiss is the better lyricist then he wins out for me...
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 8:20 pm

My ratings for Jada & Styles:

Kiss Tha Game Goodbye- 4.0
Kiss Of Death- 4.0
The Last Kiss- 4.0
A Gangster & A Gentleman- 4.5
Time Is Money- 4.0
Super Gangster, Extrodinary Gentleman- 4.0
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 8:22 pm

KRob86 wrote:
Philly Freeway is a really dope album

Cosign.
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Wed 02 Jun 2010, 11:50 pm

I cosign KJ's posts on Styles P

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 3:11 pm

Shaun wrote:
I cosign KJ's posts on Styles P

And I cosign fuck you. lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 7:55 pm

Philadelphia Freeway is far superior to The Stimulus Package.

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 9:02 pm

halfsharkalligatorhalfman wrote:
Philadelphia Freeway is far superior to The Stimulus Package.

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 9:18 pm

I got them pretty even

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 10:12 pm

I've got Stimulus Package at 4.5 and Philly Freeway at 4.
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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 10:15 pm

Philly Free is 4.5 and Stim Pack is 4.75 to me

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Thu 03 Jun 2010, 11:36 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Group Versus   Fri 04 Jun 2010, 10:05 am

halfsharkalligatorhalfman wrote:
Philadelphia Freeway is far superior to The Stimulus Package.

I agree, its not even really close.
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