AOTP - The Unholy Terror

If AOTP ain't your AOTY, WTF?

I haven't heard anything that comes even close. I mean, Jason & Alan I can understand. That don't really care for this type of music. But everyone claiming Brotha Lynch Hung and Freeway, what gives? This album even beats Wu at their own game.

This album is absolutey flawless. And then some. The first and only of the year. If you don't agree (and it seems nobody does...) let me hear it.

Be specific, for conversation's sake.

I heard this... I have never seen the hype with these dudes. Same formula track after track. epic sounding but ultimately unmemorable beat, verse after verse after verse... no general focus or cohesiveness. I like it... nothing I heard from them is wack and it serves its purpose... but its like getting fed so-so food at a buffet... yeah, I'm full and satisfied, but I won't be talking about the food in the future, even if I do remember the experience.

Brotha Lynch Hung's album is soo dope how r u not feeling that?

Suicide Girl is a wack track, sorry P.

Well, there is a certain consistency to the production. And, if you're not feeling it I guess it would be a bad thing.

As far as the emcees, I like what I hear. I think a few of Paz's spots on here are the highlights of his career. Not saying much, but at least that much. Ap always delivers, Celph is off the wall, Des Devious does his best ever. I would like to see more Eso, but Des takes up that slack nicely.

Suicide Girl is the weakest track here. But, out of context, it's still a decent song.

BLH, I dunno... I've been liking it more lately, but it still seems like it's lacking something. And the Eminem similarities are kind of hard to overlook, thematically speaking.

Kid Joe wrote:

Well, there is a certain consistency to the production. And, if you're not feeling it I guess it would be a bad thing.

As far as the emcees, I like what I hear. I think a few of Paz's spots on here are the highlights of his career. Not saying much, but at least that much. Ap always delivers, Celph is off the wall, Des Devious does his best ever. I would like to see more Eso, but Des takes up that slack nicely.

Suicide Girl is the weakest track here. But, out of context, it's still a decent song.

BLH, I dunno... I've been liking it more lately, but it still seems like it's lacking something. And the Eminem similarities are kind of hard to overlook, thematically speaking.

I think it's a dope album, but it does become a bit redundant because the sound and formula rarely changes. It's not my favorite of the year, but it's among the best IMO. I personally Like Paz's solo album more.

How do you rate this compared to the other AOTP's Kid Joe aka KJ? I have them in order from when they came out as best to worst

I would say this is equal to Torture Papers, both better than Ritual of Battle.

I'll give it a 4 rating. I like it, it's a solid album, but nothing incredible to me. As far as AOTY goes, I've got 3 albums head and shoulders above anything else, then there's about 12 more albums that i like that just can't match up to the top 3.

Top 3 of the year: (IMO)

Freeway/Jake One "The Stimulus Package"
Nas/Marley "Distant Relatives"
Brotha Lynch Hung "Dinner & A Movie"

Kid Joe wrote:

Well, there is a certain consistency to the production. And, if you're not feeling it I guess it would be a bad thing.

As far as the emcees, I like what I hear. I think a few of Paz's spots on here are the highlights of his career. Not saying much, but at least that much. Ap always delivers, Celph is off the wall, Des Devious does his best ever. I would like to see more Eso, but Des takes up that slack nicely.

Suicide Girl is the weakest track here. But, out of context, it's still a decent song.

BLH, I dunno... I've been liking it more lately, but it still seems like it's lacking something. And the Eminem similarities are kind of hard to overlook, thematically speaking.

Eminem similarities? Seriously? Dude was around for almost a decade before Slim Shady.

That doesn't really matter too much if I hear this and it reminds me of Marshall, does it?

Yeah, it does. Does "Welcome To Atlanta" remind you of KRS One or vice versa? These things are important to note. That's how white people fuck up history, fool. Oh, and Nas.

No, it doesn't. Em blew up, Hung didn't. He pressed on with what is now a played out approach. He didn't have to, but he did.

BLH went gold 5 years before Eminem became Slim Shady. Tell me how that doesn't matter.

Are you really comparing a gold album to Eminem's exposure?

"How do you rate this compared to the other AOTP's Kid Joe aka KJ?"

lmao

Your basis of the argument that you think because Em is more famous makes you think of him when listening to BLH, when in fact BLH was first. My point is simply that BLH has/had enough exposure to dismiss those types of claims. It seems ridiculous to me (as I said with the JD/KRS analogy) to credit Eminem with BLH's style when BLH was successful with it before Em was anybody. Period.

I'm not crediting anybody with anything. I feel like I've heard it before. I could care less who birthed it.

You're entitled to your opinion, but that's ignorant as fuck in mine.

How is it ignorant? I listened to the album. It did nothing for me. There were a lot of elements that I recognized from listening to Eminem. Am I ignorant because I didn't hear BLH before I heard Eminem? That's circumstantial.

Sorry if you're offended or otherwise upset by that.

I'm not upset at all.

I don't care if you don't like the BLH album. It's clearly not for everybody.

I think it's ignorant to say that even though you're aware of BLH's credentials, you're still comparing and even crediting his style to Eminem. I have no clue what portion of music you're passionate about, but again, one would think the JD/KRS comparison would make enough sense you'd understand what I'm saying. Did the Beatles invent Rock & Roll? Fuck no.

Once again, I'm not crediting anyone's style to anyone. Show me where I stated that BLH copied Eminem. Show me where I ever stated that Eminem pioneered anything.

If you're going to challenge my statements take the time read them.

Kid Joe wrote:

Well, there is a certain consistency to the production. And, if you're not feeling it I guess it would be a bad thing.

As far as the emcees, I like what I hear. I think a few of Paz's spots on here are the highlights of his career. Not saying much, but at least that much. Ap always delivers, Celph is off the wall, Des Devious does his best ever. I would like to see more Eso, but Des takes up that slack nicely.

Suicide Girl is the weakest track here. But, out of context, it's still a decent song.

BLH, I dunno... I've been liking it more lately, but it still seems like it's lacking something. And the Eminem similarities are kind of hard to overlook, thematically speaking.

Eminem similarities. You didn't verbaitum say that BLH copied Em's style, but it's implied by saying he has similarities to him, instead of vice cersa.

"Eminem similarities. You didn't verbaitum say that BLH copied Em's style, but it's implied by saying he has similarities to him, instead of vice cersa."

smh. All that he was saying is that BLH's new album reminded him of Eminem. I'm sure if Em dropped the same album, he would say it reminds him of BLH

The only thing I implied is that there are similarities, which there are. And that I'm not really interested in that type of thing anymore, which I'm not.

You have a hard on for conflict and appearing to know more about obscure music, so you twisted what I said to put your panties in a bunch. Now try making sense or fuck off.

I have no hard on for conflict. I attempted to correct what I thought was glaring mistake on your part.

I have been making sense from the beginning. I said that BLH came out before Eminem, and you repeated yourself without really addressing my point. You have YET to address my point. It's whatever dude, I'm not starting shit or anything, take it how you want. You said it reminded you of Slim Shady, I said Slim Shady came after...it's a valid point. If you "don't care" what comes first, you should have said so. I think all hip hop fans should be educated on the art form before they open their mouths about who sounds like who when really this dude came first. This is a culture and IMO it makes a difference. If it doesn't matter at all to you, just say so.

What does it matter who came first? It's about respect, for one, and for two it's about being knowledgable about what you're speaking on. Would I trust Trotter's opinion on the new TI record? Fuck no.

Okay, then I'm done.

I'm not asking anybody to trust my opinion. I'm just stating it.

LOL fair enough.

I like this album, except Suicide Girl. This like 4.25-4.5 to me.

Paz' album is pretty close to being a classic, as well. Have you peeped that yet?

I didn't get into it yet, but it sounds good at first glance.

Solid 4 stars. Maybe a 4.5. This is definitely at least on par with Torture Papers and I agree both smash Ritual of Battle. Jus Allah only makes one appearance on this one and he STILL fuckin blows. Incredible.

Anyway, Ap is raw on this album. Dude definitely does not get enough shine. One of my favorites. Celph was a little weak though, IMO.

Break dancing bear!!! yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Should I peep this. For reference, I'd give the Diabolic album 3.5, 3.75 stars.

Thanks guys

Do you like their other stuff?

Jeff wrote:

Do you like their other stuff?

I haven't listened to any AOTP albums. I hear Torture Papers is their best, should I cop that first?

SMH.

I always avoid rec'ing some one an arists best work first, that kind of leaves you nowhere to go but down. This is a good place to start, but I was unaware if you'd like it. This is straight up posse cuts for an hour and half. There's only one to find if you're going to like it or not and that's to try it. So just try it.

Jeff wrote:

SMH.

I always avoid rec'ing some one an arists best work first, that kind of leaves you nowhere to go but down. This is a good place to start, but I was unaware if you'd like it. This is straight up posse cuts for an hour and half. There's only one to find if you're going to like it or not and that's to try it. So just try it.

Fair enough, will do

I'd give this 4 stars. Starts off strong but loses momentum near the end.

Also, I'd say Ritual of Battle and this are pretty close in terms of how I'd rate them. I agree that Torture Papers is the best of the 3 though.

I disagree on Ritual of Battle. That album some some great tracks but also some terrible tracks. Un-listenable even.

I'd give Torture Papers and Unholy Terror strong 4's and Ritual of Battle a 3-3.5.

Hater

NO ONE LIKES RITUAL BATTLE AS MUCH AS YOU DO SHAUN, DEAL WITH IT AND GET ON CHAT.

Shaun wrote:

Hater

Reverse hater.

Kid Joe wrote:

I would say this is equal to Torture Papers, both better than Ritual of Battle.

Fuck no, youre smoking kangaroo pouch crud. UT by far their weakest album and a weak effort overall

ROB is their best album and one of the best albums to drop in awhile

In your face, Jeff.