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PostSubject: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:34 am

Dropping...soon? Wtf? Here's the first single...

http://www.hiphopsite.com/2010/08/27/kanye-west-jay-z-monster-feat-rick-ross-nicki-minaj-bon-iver-mp3/
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 1:38 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 1:42 pm

I like how Jay-Z stole RA The Rugged Man's line on this song.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 1:51 pm

Jay-Z stole Renegades from Royce, too. He's all up on the underground's sack

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 1:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 1:58 pm

You like both of these artists?
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:01 pm

Yeah I know, I was sleeping on you and Shaun accquisitions.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:03 pm

I just meant that song... lol

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:11 pm

I like this shit....something different and a song that actually vibes with all the different guest.

Am I the only one who's feeling Nicki mic skills a tad? Sure I am...lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:11 pm

If you heard the songs in question...I don't see how you could come to any other understatement.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:13 pm

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If you heard the songs in question...I don't see how you could come to any other understatement.

Well enlightening me please. How did Jay "steal" Renegade from Royce? And what RA line did you "steal"?
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:14 pm

From his Jedi Mind Tricks feature, he said "rapin and pillages villages". Jay said the exact same line here. What are the odds of that?
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:14 pm

"How did Jay "steal" Renegade from Royce? "

Because I said so

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:35 pm

Jeff wrote:
From his Jedi Mind Tricks feature, he said "rapin and pillages villages". Jay said the exact same line here. What are the odds of that?

lMAO!!! Really? Isn't that a well known historic fact that type of thing went on pretty frequent during certain era's.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:38 pm

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Wayne. Then Highsmith. Then KRob. You know their steez

I don't really think I "luv" the mainstream. Especially these days.

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:38 pm

Woooooooooooow........Nicki Minaj murdered these fools on this track and I don't give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck whatcha think about it!!!!! lol

The beat was kinda weak, though. It might have been this particular link, though, it just sounded low quality.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:41 pm

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Shaun wrote:
Wayne. Then Highsmith. Then KRob. You know their steez

I don't really think I "luv" the mainstream. Especially these days.

I truly dig this song so I luv the mainstream? I think Nicki has a cool rhyme style so I "luv" the mainstream. I'm not close minded to the mainstream and I do have some artist I truly like that are manistream but it goes both ways with me. You like the mainstream as much as I do..lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 2:43 pm

I never said you loved the mainstream. You're more open to it than everyone else. It's not a bad thing... lol

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 3:17 pm

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I never said you loved the mainstream. You're more open to it than everyone else. It's not a bad thing... lol

Oh okay. But I know i'm not more open to it than "everyone" else.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 3:18 pm

Everyone on here.

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 3:44 pm

Nicki Minaj is the GOAT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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I just love her mane(mayne)
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 4:10 pm

Nicki is nothing special on the mic, but she sounded dope on this track.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 4:28 pm

I just dig Niki actually has a semi original delivery/style and is trying to up the ante on what Lil Kim started. Is she the 2nd coming of Mc Lyte or something? No. But I can see the lyrical talent she has.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 4:55 pm

She stole her style from Cam'Ron- what's original about that?
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 5:21 pm

Nicki Minaj...terrible
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 5:22 pm

nicki is awful


and kev wonders why hes the mainstream luva LMAo
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 5:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 6:38 pm

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She stole her style from Cam'Ron- what's original about that?

Now I am no Cam expert so I may be wrong. Nor am I even trying to get in a debate about Nic Minaj but I do not see it. When I say semi original i'm talking about her skitso flow where she changes her voice in the middle of the flow. Also she is at least trying to standout from all the other rappers flooding this weak game. And I always thought that was one of the main points. To try to come like no one else and she does that. Now the way she wrods her rhymes may be just like Cam or whatever, but I see a biiiiiiiiiig difference between them too.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 6:40 pm

that whole - bla bla bla. ASBESTOS.

that was cam...

I mean she didn't steal the baby voice blabber bullshit from anyone, noone ever thought they could get away with sounding like a rugrat on a rap record, but technically that style isn't new - busta is known for the voice changing shit, mystikal too, and Koopsta Knicca did it and has done it for over 15 years now.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 6:44 pm

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that whole - bla bla bla. ASBESTOS.

that was cam...

I mean she didn't steal the baby voice blabber bullshit from anyone, noone ever thought they could get away with sounding like a rugrat on a rap record, but technically that style isn't new - busta is known for the voice changing shit, mystikal too, and Koopsta Knicca did it and has done it for over 15 years now.

I feel you, hence why I said "semi original". Can't remember a female emcee with that style.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 6:44 pm

Yeah, no female emcees I guess. Da Brat kind of touched on it but not really. Missy kind of did it too though if you think about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 6:46 pm

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Yeah, no female emcees I guess. Da Brat kind of touched on it but not really. Missy kind of did it too though if you think about it.

Now Da Brat is a good pick. I can see some of her in Nic's style when she's goes into the aggressive voice/flow.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 8:22 pm

:sleep:


1. jay-z stole renegade from Royce

2. Cam'ron >>>> Jay-Z in 2010

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 8:24 pm

http://slumz.boxden.com/f87/renegade-royce-da-59-jay-z-eminem-1247762/
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 8:56 pm

How did he "steal" it though. No one has explained this yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 8:57 pm

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1. jay-z stole renegade from Royce

2. Cam'ron >>>> Jay-Z in 2010


Oh and Slang you truly just lost a quarter of your hip hop cred saying Cam over Jay in 2010...lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:05 pm

It's not that difficult Kev. This was originally a song with Em and Royce. Jay liked it, knocked royce off it, put it on his album and gave no credit.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:08 pm

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It's not that difficult Kev. This was originally a song with Em and Royce. Jay liked it, knocked royce off it, put it on his album and gave no credit.

Okay fair enough. But let me ask this. Em was apart of both songs correct? So why would Em rock with Jay knowing he "knocked" Royce off the song? Also was the original song with all three of them? Was the original song on a official album or just a single or something?

Please answer these questions.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:12 pm

The first version never came out. It wasn't like Jay Z pulled a gat on on Royce and strong armed him. The point isn't that jay literally stole something - but the song was a huge hit and it could have been Royce's big break, but since Jay liked it so much and was a bigger emcee in the game, he was basically able to get his way with the song.

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:15 pm

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The first version never came out. It wasn't like Jay Z pulled a gat on on Royce and strong armed him. The point isn't that jay literally stole something - but the song was a huge hit and it could have been Royce's big break, but since Jay liked it so much and was a bigger emcee in the game, he was basically able to get his way with the song.


Okay thats what I figured just wasn't sure. Thanks man fa real. I knew he didn't steal the shit, but thats what Jay haters i'm sure love to throw around. So was it the same beat and hook?
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:25 pm

Yeah thats pretty jacked up...lol. So how did Em let this go down. Even though Jay's version is waaay betta. And this sounds like it was a Em song featuring Royce. Plus Em produced it so Em is the true culprit here not Jay. No point in wasting a dope ass beat like that on Royce when Hov could bless it.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:26 pm

Well em and royce had a falling out around this time.. don't know if it was because of this or this was a result of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 9:31 pm

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Well em and royce had a falling out around this time.. don't know if it was because of this or this was a result of it.

Yeah I remember their fall out and this would be a damn good reason to cut a cat off. But honestly by the quality of the track it sounds like a song they just did together with no true intentions and was just sitting in the vaults somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 10:02 pm

smh @ way too many thing that KRob has said shaking my head

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 10:07 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 10:11 pm

That song was recorded for what eventually became Death Is Certain. Royce gave Jay-Z his blessing to take the song, unaware that Jay-Z was going to leave Eminem's verses on it (which Royce had allegedly paid for in advance). The sound quality has nothing to do with anything, somebody got a shitty version and it spread like wildfire. It sounded much better in the studio, and in fact, there's a Kay Slay mixtape with the OG version on it in CDQ.

Also, most people think the Royce version is FAR superior. Just saying.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 10:20 pm

Don't waste your breath - Kev is a mainstream Jay stan


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_O_-URLgIM


Good quality cut - the Royce version is at least as good as the Jay one. It's not wasting dude.


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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 10:39 pm

Jeff wrote:
That song was recorded for what eventually became Death Is Certain. Royce gave Jay-Z his blessing to take the song, unaware that Jay-Z was going to leave Eminem's verses on it (which Royce had allegedly paid for in advance). The sound quality has nothing to do with anything, somebody got a shitty version and it spread like wildfire. It sounded much better in the studio, and in fact, there's a Kay Slay mixtape with the OG version on it in CDQ.

Also, most people think the Royce version is FAR superior. Just saying.

Well he didn't steal it. And only underground geeks and Jay haters would say its superior just saying.
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PostSubject: Re: Kanye + Jay-Z - Watch The Throne (5 Song EP)   Sat 28 Aug 2010, 10:46 pm

"And only underground geeks and Jay haters would say its superior just saying."

lmao. That sounds like KJ saying that only Nas haters think Nastradamus isn't good

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