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PostSubject: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 1:00 am

http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2011/02/04/22575655.aspx

There is another short article on this on xxlmag.com. Favorite rapper aside I hate when I hear about dad's not paying their child support. Damn Face. I'm sure there's more to this. They say he's been locked up since October of last year!
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damn!!! what the fuck
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 4:41 am

Child support? Really?

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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 9:46 am

It was unpaid child support and a Fed charge. I'm assuming the Fed charge is what has kept him in jail. Face is still great, but i can't help but to lose a little bit of respect since he is a dead beat dad.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 1:13 pm

Well dead beat dad is a strong stretch. He could have been apart of his kids life for all we know. Just trippin on the suppoort payments or maybe couldn't afford them. I will hold off on judging him to harsh until more info is released. But I do agree it makes me lose a little respect for him though.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 3:10 pm

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Well dead beat dad is a strong stretch. He could have been apart of his kids life for all we know. Just trippin on the suppoort payments or maybe couldn't afford them. I will hold off on judging him to harsh until more info is released. But I do agree it makes me lose a little respect for him though.

yeah, dead beat dad may have been too harsh. There are a lot of factors that go into what kind of relationship he may or may not have with his kids especially given his profession, but it's sad that he was not taking care of his responsibilities.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 3:16 pm

I wonder what the federal charges are for. They're not giving away any details on that, and I believe that's the reason he's locked up moreso than the child support issues. I think it's crazy that he's been locked up since October and it took over 4 months for this story to get released.

I can't imagine why Face wouldn't be able to pay his child support given his successful rap career. While I still love his music, it does make me lose a bit of respect for him as a man. In any event, I will pray for him to resolve whatever issues he has at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 4:35 pm

Scarface says, "OG's don't pay child support, Bitch!" lol

Seriously though, he may not even be a dead beat dad, it may be that the stank trick that he knocked up is trying to squeeze more money out of him than is necessary. You know how hood rats can be...

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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 5:24 pm

Wanduras wrote:
Scarface says, "OG's don't pay child support, Bitch!" lol

Seriously though, he may not even be a dead beat dad, it may be that the stank trick that he knocked up is trying to squeeze more money out of him than is necessary. You know how hood rats can be...


Even if that's the case, you gotta support your kids if they're yours. There are lawyers who can fight child support cases, you can't just ignore that shit though. A man's gotta handle his business.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 6:42 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
Wanduras wrote:
Scarface says, "OG's don't pay child support, Bitch!" lol

Seriously though, he may not even be a dead beat dad, it may be that the stank trick that he knocked up is trying to squeeze more money out of him than is necessary. You know how hood rats can be...


Even if that's the case, you gotta support your kids if they're yours. There are lawyers who can fight child support cases, you can't just ignore that shit though. A man's gotta handle his business.

the thing is he can easily be giving them 30-40,000 a month but the bitch probly wants Kelis dollars, you dont know any facts
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 7:13 pm

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KJ Styles wrote:
Wanduras wrote:
Scarface says, "OG's don't pay child support, Bitch!" lol

Seriously though, he may not even be a dead beat dad, it may be that the stank trick that he knocked up is trying to squeeze more money out of him than is necessary. You know how hood rats can be...


Even if that's the case, you gotta support your kids if they're yours. There are lawyers who can fight child support cases, you can't just ignore that shit though. A man's gotta handle his business.

the thing is he can easily be giving them 30-40,000 a month but the bitch probly wants Kelis dollars, you dont know any facts

Nobody knows the facts except Face, his baby mama, the lawyers, and the judicial system. I'm not defending her at all. I'm just saying that you can't just ignore the situation, you've gotta deal with it even if it means filing a countersuit.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 7:53 pm

I agree with that too, KJ, I was just saying that it COULD be a case where he was getting taking advantage of. Nobody can really say. I just know my share of dads that try to do the right thing and still get harrassed by women that want their nails and hair done.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 8:09 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
Slang Editorial wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Wanduras wrote:
Scarface says, "OG's don't pay child support, Bitch!" lol

Seriously though, he may not even be a dead beat dad, it may be that the stank trick that he knocked up is trying to squeeze more money out of him than is necessary. You know how hood rats can be...


Even if that's the case, you gotta support your kids if they're yours. There are lawyers who can fight child support cases, you can't just ignore that shit though. A man's gotta handle his business.

the thing is he can easily be giving them 30-40,000 a month but the bitch probly wants Kelis dollars, you dont know any facts

Nobody knows the facts except Face, his baby mama, the lawyers, and the judicial system. I'm not defending her at all. I'm just saying that you can't just ignore the situation, you've gotta deal with it even if it means filing a countersuit.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 9:38 pm

Wanduras wrote:
I agree with that too, KJ, I was just saying that it COULD be a case where he was getting taking advantage of. Nobody can really say. I just know my share of dads that try to do the right thing and still get harrassed by women that want their nails and hair done.

In cases like that I suggest you sue for full custody. Might as well live with the results your paying for. If it's all about the accessories it'll come out.

At the various least it will remove immature person. Chicks like that come up with excuses not to see their kids. If she gets knocked up again let the other dude handle that or he'll at least see he can do the same thing and that their is a legal precedent.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 05 Feb 2011, 10:12 pm

to my knowledge, child support is court mandated and it can be tracked. There's really no way that the woman/women can lean on him for more money. Like i said before though, the child support issue is small potatoes compared to the federal charge.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSun 06 Feb 2011, 6:47 pm

not sure about the entire story right here so judgement will be reserved, but I will say this....if 'Face is NOT taking care of his kids then he is a bitch ass n*i*g*g*a*...and that's straight up....

again I would need to hear more about the facts in this case to say that, that is the case here....with all of the success that he has had over an extremely blessed career child support should not even be an issue.....but we will see mane!
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeMon 07 Feb 2011, 1:11 am

Another suggestion for those who feel they are being reamed for support simply demand that the expenditure be itemized instead of a blank check. Now I'm not going to lie and say I know the logistics of this particular set up but I do know that's what some folks do.

If you think she's being sheisty now you have paperwork. I would tell dudes to find out more about that.

Have the money transferred to an account with a debit card attached then old girl uses it and she has to show up with the receipts and show how it pertains to the child if you challenge a charge. BAM!
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeMon 07 Feb 2011, 2:59 am

I'm sorry Ms.Jackson.......
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeTue 08 Feb 2011, 10:13 am

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Have the money transferred to an account with a debit card attached then old girl uses it and she has to show up with the receipts and show how it pertains to the child if you challenge a charge. BAM!

Thats actually a really good idea. However, one way around that is by letting other people use the card at a discounted rate. Other people could use the card to buy child related items and pay the card owner in cash, lets say 5% off. Its worth it to the other person and it would be easy, they don't check ID for debit cards. The chick could take that cash and still get her nails done. Or even worse, coke or crack!

And I think the overall message has already been stated. If Scarface is really not paying to support his own blood, he is a piece of shit. But we should all reserve judgement on either party until the truth comes out. Who knows if it will, tho, if it took this long to find out that he was locked up.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeTue 08 Feb 2011, 10:15 am

Oh yeah...and the Fed charge...lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeWed 09 Feb 2011, 12:18 am

Wanduras wrote:
TheHazardous wrote:

Have the money transferred to an account with a debit card attached then old girl uses it and she has to show up with the receipts and show how it pertains to the child if you challenge a charge. BAM!

Thats actually a really good idea. However, one way around that is by letting other people use the card at a discounted rate. Other people could use the card to buy child related items and pay the card owner in cash, lets say 5% off. Its worth it to the other person and it would be easy, they don't check ID for debit cards. The chick could take that cash and still get her nails done. Or even worse, coke or crack!

And I think the overall message has already been stated. If Scarface is really not paying to support his own blood, he is a piece of shit. But we should all reserve judgement on either party until the truth comes out. Who knows if it will, tho, if it took this long to find out that he was locked up.

True dat. No system is foolproof.

However Ms. Sheisty would still need to save them receipts to reconcile reports. And if she claims she got Jordans and I see my seed rocking knockoff Adidas it's about to be smoke in the muthaphucking city, nawmean? You call up an advocate to reconcile the reports as a legal third party via home visit. If you're missing the stuff you claimed with no explanation then flag on the play.

Now if you let a 'head raise yo seed, you fucked up. If you didn't use good sense to file for full custody and demand a drug test then you slacking. How could you miss that your baby mama had a serious substance problem? You have to ask yourself what kind of chicks are you messing with?
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeWed 09 Feb 2011, 8:24 pm

I totally agree. Keep in mind this is not me that I'm talking about, lol. I'm happily married and fully take care of my own. Just to be clear, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeWed 09 Feb 2011, 10:11 pm

I was speaking hypothetically of course. However what you mentioned is a real potential abuse that some folks on WIC do.

I was just saying that's how I would address it.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeWed 09 Feb 2011, 10:16 pm

Further elaborating on that topic I think the person who abuses this card should be charged with misappropriation of funds. And be forced to pay back those funds because technically they've stolen from their own child.

After that to receive funds:
a) must put in a special request from an advocate
b) by items on their own and show up with the receipts to be reimbursed
options on that:
1. you get reimbursed up to $X
2. you get reimbursed for %50 of what you purchased and can be challenged to produce said item
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeMon 14 Feb 2011, 6:25 am

I recommend that a guy pay the woman by writing checks. In the memo line, he should write exactly what she said she needed the money for. So if she says she needs $45.00 for diapers, then the guy would write "diapers" in the memo line. Most banks allow electronic copies of checks to be viewed by the account holder. He can print these out via Adobe, then take those to court to prove that he paid her for child expenses. This way she'd get caught lying, and hopefully have to pay him back.

I hope Scarface isn't slippin like that, but if he is, then it's too bad. smh.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeTue 15 Feb 2011, 12:25 am

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I recommend that a guy pay the woman by writing checks. In the memo line, he should write exactly what she said she needed the money for. So if she says she needs $45.00 for diapers, then the guy would write "diapers" in the memo line. Most banks allow electronic copies of checks to be viewed by the account holder. He can print these out via Adobe, then take those to court to prove that he paid her for child expenses. This way she'd get caught lying, and hopefully have to pay him back.

I hope Scarface isn't slippin like that, but if he is, then it's too bad. smh.

The only problem I perceive with that is still puts them at each other's beck and call. If I was the women in question I personally wouldn't want to call my baby's father up for every little thing. He's not there all that time and it means he gets to evaluate every purchase. Why you getting him Lucky Charms shawty, getting him that off brand shit.

And if I'm the dude I don't want to be tracked down by baby mama for every little thing. It's cumbersome and can lead to micromanaging. When I pass the dough I expect you to handle ya business. Call me for events, changes in plans, and major purchases.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeTue 15 Feb 2011, 1:48 am

TheHazardous wrote:
thatonethere wrote:
I recommend that a guy pay the woman by writing checks. In the memo line, he should write exactly what she said she needed the money for. So if she says she needs $45.00 for diapers, then the guy would write "diapers" in the memo line. Most banks allow electronic copies of checks to be viewed by the account holder. He can print these out via Adobe, then take those to court to prove that he paid her for child expenses. This way she'd get caught lying, and hopefully have to pay him back.

I hope Scarface isn't slippin like that, but if he is, then it's too bad. smh.

The only problem I perceive with that is still puts them at each other's beck and call. If I was the women in question I personally wouldn't want to call my baby's father up for every little thing. He's not there all that time and it means he gets to evaluate every purchase. Why you getting him Lucky Charms shawty, getting him that off brand shit.

And if I'm the dude I don't want to be tracked down by baby mama for every little thing. It's cumbersome and can lead to micromanaging. When I pass the dough I expect you to handle ya business. Call me for events, changes in plans, and major purchases.


This makes a lot of sense, and I could understand that. If I were in that situation I wouldn't want to be contacted for every little purchase either.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeWed 16 Feb 2011, 3:03 pm

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Well dead beat dad is a strong stretch. He could have been apart of his kids life for all we know. Just trippin on the suppoort payments or maybe couldn't afford them. I will hold off on judging him to harsh until more info is released. But I do agree it makes me lose a little respect for him though.

Do you really think he can't afford it? I would think dude's got cash.
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Jack of Spades wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
Well dead beat dad is a strong stretch. He could have been apart of his kids life for all we know. Just trippin on the suppoort payments or maybe couldn't afford them. I will hold off on judging him to harsh until more info is released. But I do agree it makes me lose a little respect for him though.

Do you really think he can't afford it? I would think dude's got cash.

He use to get cash but what was the last Face album to even go gold? And he is still an artist on a label that is independent and not saleing much as a whole itself. Add in the fact he does not tour at all and you have one semi broke mofo maybe.
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If it helps, I know some of these independent guys get higher royalties then the mainstream kats. So they don't have to sell as many albums and still make a good amount of coin.

But I can also see your points Kev.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeThu 17 Feb 2011, 12:08 pm

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TicNitty706 wrote:
Well dead beat dad is a strong stretch. He could have been apart of his kids life for all we know. Just trippin on the suppoort payments or maybe couldn't afford them. I will hold off on judging him to harsh until more info is released. But I do agree it makes me lose a little respect for him though.

Do you really think he can't afford it? I would think dude's got cash.

He use to get cash but what was the last Face album to even go gold? And he is still an artist on a label that is independent and not saleing much as a whole itself. Add in the fact he does not tour at all and you have one semi broke mofo maybe.

Kev 'Face is hardly "broke" man...he's comfortable....he's got to be, he's been in the game too long...done too many shows...sold too many records...to be straight up "broke"......he's got the money to take care of his kids, although I'm not sure by this article that he wasn't doing that yet...more facts need to come out to make a judgement call on it man....
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Of course he's not broke by our definition. But for him I bet he's struggling. And Face does not do a lot of shows especially nationally. They probably based his child payments on an older pay scale, who knows.
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These rappers rap about every criminal activity under the sun except unpaid child support.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeThu 17 Feb 2011, 10:41 pm

If your income changes, you go in and get your payments adjusted. I would assume that he just lost track of things. Maybe he's in the process of contesting...who knows?
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeFri 18 Feb 2011, 1:45 pm

Dang! Trotter wrote:
These rappers rap about every criminal activity under the sun except unpaid child support.

LOL
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Dang! Trotter wrote:
These rappers rap about every criminal activity under the sun except unpaid child support.

Eazy-E mentioned it in "Fuck my baby's Mama"
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeFri 18 Feb 2011, 5:51 pm

Jack of Spades wrote:
Dang! Trotter wrote:
These rappers rap about every criminal activity under the sun except unpaid child support.

Eazy-E mentioned it in "Fuck my baby's Mama"

LOL you must read my mind because I was about to post some songs also:

Daz- Baby Mama Drama
Scarface- Now I Feel Ya
Scarface- Greed


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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeFri 18 Feb 2011, 7:55 pm

I figured somebody had. It's too common a problem for no one to have said a damn thing. I was waiting for somebody to make a list. How'd I know Kev would be at the forefront. Smile

Let's see what else pops up.
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeFri 18 Feb 2011, 9:03 pm

lol @ Face songs being listed
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeFri 18 Feb 2011, 10:11 pm

Shaun wrote:
lol @ Face songs being listed

LOL, I thought the same thing
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeSat 19 Feb 2011, 12:43 am

T. Myers wrote:
Shaun wrote:
lol @ Face songs being listed

LOL, I thought the same thing

lol cosign, at least hes living his rhymes!

Ban
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PostSubject: Re: Scarface locked up!!!   Scarface locked up!!! Icon_minitimeFri 25 Feb 2011, 10:52 pm

LOL, I forgot about that Daz joint.
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