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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 4:50 pm

Bumpy would beat the shit out of Pac with both his KNUCKLES and quite easily man....LOL

Oh and N3RO what is your top 20 of all-time man??
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 4:51 pm

Hey Pounds glad to see you stopped riding Powell's nuts for five minutes and found your home back at bland wannabe whiteboy rap camp. GOOD FOR YOU!


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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 4:55 pm

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Bumpy would beat the shit out of Pac with both his KNUCKLES and quite easily man....LOL

Oh and N3RO what is your top 20 of all-time man??

Powell I know you are the definition of east coast bias but really this one is not even opinion this is str8 whack. And I am a Bump fan even more than you I bet.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 4:56 pm

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Also Terry I mean let's be honest dudes like Grand Puba, Sadat X, Chubb Rock, Special Ed, Jeru, Deck, Heavy D, and many others could be on many heads list and just missed making my top 20 but would be on the top 50, no questions asked!

And you put Phonte over all of these rappers, Powell?

just barely Pounds, have you ever really listened to this dude man??

I mean really listened to him on Chitlin Circuit?? The Minstrel Show?? The Listening??

he can spit Pounds and has alot of other attributes as an emcee as well man...I really feel he's that good man, let's not get him and Big Pooh confused man..lol..I'm talking about Phonte man..lol

I've listened to Phonte quite a bit (I own 4 LB records and the first Foreign Exchange). I do feel he's a dope rapper. I like how relaxed he sounds on the mic, yet he articulates each word and his timing is very nice and fluid...nothing feels forced or ordinary. While he wins points in those areas, I don't see him beating out much quicker and more precise emcees. Personally, I feel Heavy D & Special Ed share many of the same characteristics as Phonte, but are also quicker and more precise on the mic....which adds a whole other layer to their appeal IMO. Surprised to see you'd put 2/3 of Brand Nubian below Phonte.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 4:59 pm

powell is just off his rocker, give the old man his medicine and move along
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:00 pm

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Hey Pounds glad to see you stopped riding Powell's nuts for five minutes and found your home back at bland wannabe whiteboy rap camp. GOOD FOR YOU!

Man, I don't know what's wrong with you sometimes. I did not say one word to you, and you're already on my nuts. And apparently adding the icon to my avatar again. Maybe it's time to stop being bi-polar and check yourself into the clinic. Douche bag.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:02 pm

Nah Kev, I've got love for Bumpy man, and I do feel LYRICALLY that he would beat up Pac, but I think Pac beats him up in most of the other areas except flow and lyrics and Pac might even beat him flow-wise too I'd have to think about that one

Pounds you already know I love Brand Nubian, and Hev and Special Ed but honestly I don't think any of those guys are better than Phonte..I think Phonte has them all beat even if it's just barely which is why he's in my top 20 and the others are just outside of it, but most def in my top 50
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:02 pm

Pounds this is your one warning.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:05 pm

Pounds, I'll say this and drop it, you're starting shit with Powell who's cock you've been riding like a worn out porn star and I called you on it. I know you're all worried about your job and shit but get the fuck over it Powell is one of the FEW people on here that agrees with you/defends you. There's a reason your tag is EMO and mine isn't. You can't even take a fucking joke. I'm merely treating you like everybody else gets treated. SO address criticism and I don't have a problem, but start in with the personal insults like you just called Powell out for using and I'm going to fucking ban your ass. Got it?
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:11 pm

phonte's good but no way hes top 20
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:14 pm

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Pounds, I'll say this and drop it, you're starting shit with Powell who's cock you've been riding like a worn out porn star and I called you on it. I know you're all worried about your job and shit but get the fuck over it Powell is one of the FEW people on here that agrees with you/defends you. There's a reason your tag is EMO and mine isn't. You can't even take a fucking joke. I'm merely treating you like everybody else gets treated. SO address criticism and I don't have a problem, but start in with the personal insults like you just called Powell out for using and I'm going to fucking ban your ass. Got it?

What the hell man? Did I even say anything to you....in the past couple weeks? Powell and I were discussing music, and you're the one getting all emo and throwing a hissy fit you idiot. I mean, that's all you do is bitch and moan and cry on a daily basis, and it gets old as fuck. Powell and I OFTEN disagree. Not sure what your issue is...
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:16 pm

While most of the time I do agree Alan is a douche, it DOES seem a bit out of left field N3R0. I don't see how he's done anything to even closely merit a banning.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:20 pm

Slang Editorial wrote:
phonte's good but no way hes top 20

umm your top 20 of all-time Slang is??
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:20 pm

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While most of the time I do agree Alan is a douche, it DOES seem a bit out of left field N3R0. I don't see how he's done anything to even closely merit a banning.

LOL - there you go Nero, quit douching out.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:23 pm

Everybody say Bye to Alan.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:25 pm

Phonte's been hinting at the next LB record being the last, so we'll see how he stands on his own as a solo artist. He does have Connected to his credit, and he held down the rapping duties on that album well.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:26 pm

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Everybody say Bye to Alan.

Why bother? I'll just email Linker, he'll rationally go over the details, and let me back in. You're the only one breaking your own rules. lol
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:32 pm

Steve wrote:
While most of the time I do agree Alan is a douche, it DOES seem a bit out of left field N3R0. I don't see how he's done anything to even closely merit a banning.


I agree with Steve. :steve:
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:33 pm

I'm not surprised to see all the neither votes, but it's whatever. Little Brother is more talented than most of the underground acts I've seen many peeps in this forum big up and give GOAT status to. Top 100.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:38 pm

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I'm not surprised to see all the neither votes, but it's whatever. Little Brother is more talented than most of the underground acts I've seen many peeps in this forum big up and give GOAT tatus to. Top 100.


LB ain't touching K-Rino or Ras Kass or Canibus or Royce or none of them son... get your mind correct
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:41 pm

top 20 in NO ORDER based on who i like listening to most

Rakim
Kool G Rap
Nas
Ghostface Killah
Big Daddy Kane
2Pac
Ras Kass
Eminem
Slick Rick
GZA
Big L
Chuck D
Lord Finesse
Andre 3000
Method Man
Del the funky homosapien
MF Doom
Tech N9ne
Sean Price
Inspectah Deck (as a group rapper, he is the #1 group rapper ever IMO, and ive explained this thoroughly before, but put him up againt Phonte and hell tear him apart)

^ i personally enjy listening to those rappers more than most other rappers so i guess that makes them my top 20

but obviously if i was ranking the list objectively i would include Jay-Z, Biggie, LL Cool J, KRS One (these all fall in my top 30)

but other MC's better than Phonte not listed: Raekwon, Sean Price, Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch, Royce Da 5 9, Q-Tip, Grand Puba, OC, AG, Big Pun, Jadakiss, One Be Lo, Masta Ace, Talib Kweli, etc.

Dont get me wrong Phonte is good but to me he can get boring and doesnt bring anything that new or exciting to the table...
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:44 pm

Listen, I never said Phonte was the greatest MC of all time, but ya'll act like he's Vanilla Ice or Souljah Boy, and he's much better than that.

I've seen some people that have gotten into the Top 100 that LB is easily better than, but it's whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:46 pm

WHO! Call out names KJ.

Cause King Nicky Andre Nickatina is better than 91% of the top 100 but you don't see me bitching about him not even getting nominated
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:47 pm

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top 20 in NO ORDER based on who i like listening to most

Rakim
Kool G Rap
Nas
Ghostface Killah
Big Daddy Kane
2Pac
Ras Kass
Eminem
Slick Rick
GZA
Big L
Chuck D
Lord Finesse
Andre 3000
Method Man
Del the funky homosapien
MF Doom
Tech N9ne
Sean Price
Inspectah Deck (as a group rapper, he is the #1 group rapper ever IMO, and ive explained this thoroughly before, but put him up againt Phonte and hell tear him apart)

^ i personally enjy listening to those rappers more than most other rappers so i guess that makes them my top 20

but obviously if i was ranking the list objectively i would include Jay-Z, Biggie, LL Cool J, KRS One (these all fall in my top 30)

but other MC's better than Phonte not listed: Raekwon, Sean Price, Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch, Royce Da 5 9, Q-Tip, Grand Puba, OC, AG, Big Pun, Jadakiss, One Be Lo, Masta Ace, Talib Kweli, etc.

Dont get me wrong Phonte is good but to me he can get boring and doesnt bring anything that new or exciting to the table...

you've got a great list but nothing that shows me why Phonte can't be a top 20 emcee of all-time and that's what I thought to begin with....I see Phonte taking out alot of your favorites including Deck....he's good but not that good and he's certainly not the best out the Wu....but it's all about opinion and yours proves to me even more that Phonte is certainly top 20 worthy....
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:49 pm

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WHO! Call out names KJ.

Cause King Nicky Andre Nickatina is better than 91% of the top 100 but you don't see me bitching about him not even getting nominated

I'm too tired (from working an 11 hour day) and not in the mood to name all the MC's. All I'm saying is that LB is better than y'all give them credit for. They haven't dropped anything under 4 stars IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:51 pm

Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:51 pm

LB is way too young and broken up already
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 5:53 pm

Slang Editorial wrote:
Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own

I like LB, but Phonte is NOT Top 20 of all time. I could see 60-70 though.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Tue 30 Jun 2009, 6:50 pm

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Slang Editorial wrote:
Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own

I like LB, but Phonte is NOT Top 20 of all time. I could see 60-70 though.

U already know what's next Kool John

Your top 20 emcees of all-time please??

I want you to show me why Phonte is not top 20 of all-time
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 8:45 am

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Slang Editorial wrote:
Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own

I like LB, but Phonte is NOT Top 20 of all time. I could see 60-70 though.

U already know what's next Kool John

Your top 20 emcees of all-time please??

I want you to show me why Phonte is not top 20 of all-time

LOL! Showing you why Phonte is not top 20 is impossible. There are plenty of mc's people would put in over Jada and Phonte, but since it's your opinion, none of that will matter.

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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 9:27 am

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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 5:37 pm

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Slang Editorial wrote:
Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own

I like LB, but Phonte is NOT Top 20 of all time. I could see 60-70 though.

U already know what's next Kool John

Your top 20 emcees of all-time please??

I want you to show me why Phonte is not top 20 of all-time

Ok Powell....

Not in any particular order with the exception of my Top 5....

Biggie
Nas
Rakim
KRS-One
2Pac
Jay Z
Ice Cube
Black Thought
Scarface
Big Daddy Kane
Ghostface Killah
Q-Tip
Slick Rick
Redman
GZA
Andre 3000
Talib Kweli
Kool G Rap
Common
Ludacris

Phonte is dope, but IMO he's not fuckin with ANY of those guys I just listed.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:18 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
D.Powell wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Slang Editorial wrote:
Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own

I like LB, but Phonte is NOT Top 20 of all time. I could see 60-70 though.

U already know what's next Kool John

Your top 20 emcees of all-time please??

I want you to show me why Phonte is not top 20 of all-time

Ok Powell....

Not in any particular order with the exception of my Top 5....

Biggie
Nas
Rakim
KRS-One
2Pac
Jay Z
Ice Cube
Black Thought
Scarface
Big Daddy Kane
Ghostface Killah
Q-Tip
Slick Rick
Redman
GZA
Andre 3000
Talib Kweli
Kool G Rap
Common
Ludacris

Phonte is dope, but IMO he's not fuckin with ANY of those guys I just listed.

Now see the same way you think a guy like Ludacris for example is top 20 of all-time alot of people would probably disagree with that...him being on that short list is just as controversial as Phonte IMO...but again LYRICALLY I think Phonte would get Ludacris, Scarface,2Pac and Q-Tip on your list...again in my opinion, but you have a few "controversial" picks too...but great picks nonetheless...
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:19 pm

I think LYRICALLY he would get Ghostface too....Ghost makes great songs but lyrically he's overrated IMO

he's not a lyrical dynamo IMO, and he's not even the best out of his own group again in my opinion
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:20 pm

I'd bet pretty much anyone's top 20 list is gonna be a mix of consensus picks, and some personal favorites they consider highly. Anything other than that, and you have someone with no individualism just going with the flow, or someone who can't see beyond their own little world. Interesting lists posted though.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:21 pm

Co-sign that one Jason
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:24 pm

Eminem is a million times better than Phonte. It's not even close.

Phonte is dope, but Em is a lot more lyrical.

EDIT: I meant to put Em on my Top 20 list, but I did that list on the fly. Em is defintely among my all time favs though.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:29 pm

Eminem is lyrical but he's silly as shit and he's overrated IMO

and it's alot closer than heads on here want to even image...

Eminem doesn't even make my top 30....when you grow up on Kool G Rap and Rakim I guess Eminem doesn't seem to impressive to guys like that..lol

very good but overrated IMO
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:32 pm

^ emceeing isnt only about lyrics Powell, Ghostface is better than Phonte in every aspect of emceeing, hell, imo hes better than Nas in most apects except maybe lyrics

-energy, flow, charisma, voice appeal, and just straight up being dope

take this verse for example:


Phonte could NEVER come with this type of energy on a track, neither could Nas as much as i like him, his lines are ridiculously dope in this song as well


and yes i consider an MC's "voice" a much bigger part of emceeing than a lot of people do, if i dont like their voice i wont like them, and if i like their voice a lot ill like them more, just sayin. Personally i think Phonte's voice comes off as too generic
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:34 pm

Okay Slang SHUT THE FUCK UP MAN....LMAO

you just said Ghostface is more lyrical than Nas and now I can't even hear a damn word your saying...lol
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:34 pm

i didnt say that can you read man?
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:38 pm

I can and I don't listen to any comparison's between Nas and Ghostface...And I do mean ANY...

that shit is laughable man....Ghostface canNOT see Nas in any way, shape or form, he can't even hold the mic as nice as Nas man...lol


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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:39 pm

D.Powell wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
D.Powell wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Slang Editorial wrote:
Powell i cant change your opinion that Phonte is top 20, but in my opinion hes not

to each his own

I like LB, but Phonte is NOT Top 20 of all time. I could see 60-70 though.

U already know what's next Kool John

Your top 20 emcees of all-time please??

I want you to show me why Phonte is not top 20 of all-time

Ok Powell....

Not in any particular order with the exception of my Top 5....

Biggie
Nas
Rakim
KRS-One
2Pac
Jay Z
Ice Cube
Black Thought
Scarface
Big Daddy Kane
Ghostface Killah
Q-Tip
Slick Rick
Redman
GZA
Andre 3000
Talib Kweli
Kool G Rap
Common
Ludacris

Phonte is dope, but IMO he's not fuckin with ANY of those guys I just listed.

Now see the same way you think a guy like Ludacris for example is top 20 of all-time alot of people would probably disagree with that...him being on that short list is just as controversial as Phonte IMO...but again LYRICALLY I think Phonte would get Ludacris, Scarface,2Pac and Q-Tip on your list...again in my opinion, but you have a few "controversial" picks too...but great picks nonetheless...

Luda is probably the most consistent post 2000 MC, hence his high ranking on my list.

I forgot to list Eminem, who ranks no lower than 25th on my list, but probably around 15th or so.

I like Phonte a lot. I think he's really dope however I think he has benefitted a lot from 9th Wonder's production, as has been evidenced from everything LB has dropped post-Minstrel Show, there's a bit of a dropoff there.

You have the right to your opinion, but Phonte hasn't dropped anything as masterful as Me Against The World or The Fix or The Low End Theory. The Minstrel Show is a classic for sure and LB's best album, but it's not on the level of those joints IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:39 pm

Nas cant match Ghost in energy, charisma, or flow imo
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:43 pm

Actually LB's best album is The Chittlin Circuit 1.5 IMO and it is every bit on the level of those other ones you've mentioned, as far as Phonte I haven't seen much drop off from him LYRICALLY at all and when you add in the work he's done with Nicolay then shit you begin to realize that this guy is fuckin DOPE...lol...9th Wonder does need to make a return to bring them back those fire beats but he has nothing to do with Phonte's lyrics...

Slang I think Nas has Ghostface completely beatdown in every emceeing category man, but again this is my opinion
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:43 pm

Yeah Ludacris is kinda out there imo for a top 20 but much respect for the originality.

Here's my top 20 since you guys are trading..lol. I know mine is very different.

Face
Cube
Pac
Nas
Jay-Z
DJ Quik
Treach
Biggie
Too Short
K-Rino
KRS-One
Big Daddy Kane
Spice 1
Ice-T
Heavy D
Enimem
LL Cool J
Cee-Lo
Willie D
Andre 3000
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:44 pm

^ damn Willie D top 20 dont see that often
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 7:53 pm

Slang Editorial wrote:
^ damn Willie D top 20 dont see that often

Yeah I know and objectively he does not belong but for me that is my homey. Willie D lyrics keep me trippin and growing.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 8:09 pm

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Actually LB's best album is The Chittlin Circuit 1.5 IMO and it is every bit on the level of those other ones you've mentioned, as far as Phonte I haven't seen much drop off from him LYRICALLY at all and when you add in the work he's done with Nicolay then shit you begin to realize that this guy is fuckin DOPE...lol...9th Wonder does need to make a return to bring them back those fire beats but he has nothing to do with Phonte's lyrics...

Slang I think Nas has Ghostface completely beatdown in every emceeing category man, but again this is my opinion

You like Chitlin Circuit better than Minstrel Show and The Listening? Never heard anybody say that but it's all good. All three albums are definitely bangers.

Again I like Phonte, but I think he's regressed a bit without 9th Wonder. He really didn't bring the heat on Getback or And Justus For All as he did on his first three albums.

But I TOTALLY agree with you on Nas being better than Ghostface. Ghost is among my favs but Nas is definitely superior line for line.
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PostSubject: Re: 100 Greatest Nominee Day 72 (A)   Wed 01 Jul 2009, 8:12 pm

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Nas cant match Ghost in energy, charisma, or flow imo

Nas' flow is SUPERIOR to Ghost's. Nas drops far better punchlines!

Energy and Charisma are overrated. Busta Rhymes is probably the best in those areas, but he's a Top 100 MC at best.
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