Subject: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:20 pm
vs.
Two different but parallel groups imo. They both have one true spitter that everyone ranks highly. Both have a member who produces the majority of their albums and rap in the grp also. They almost have the exact same amount of official albums. Both are hardcore but had some mainstream success.
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare UGK 4 Life vs. The Infamy
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you?
Shook Ones II vs. Murder
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:26 pm
KRob86 wrote:
vs.
Two different but parallel groups imo. They both have one true spitter that everyone ranks highly. Both have a member who produces the majority of their albums and rap in the grp also. They almost have the exact same amount of official albums. Both are hardcore but had some mainstream success.
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare UGK 4 Like vs. The Infamy
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you?
Shook Ones II vs. Murder
Interesting thread here KRob. UGK (RIP Pimp C) and the Mobb are two of my favorite hip hop duos of all time. So with that being said........
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell Too Hard To Swallow Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Oh man, this is a tough one. Complete push. Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight Probably Hell On Earth Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare Dirty Money UGK 4 Like vs. The Infamy UGK 4 Life (no contest here)
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C Havoc.
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B Bun B
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you? Absolutely.
Shook Ones II vs. Murder Two classics, but I'm going with Shook Ones II.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:27 pm
Whoa, Wayne picked Bun over P?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:28 pm
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Whoa, Wayne picked Bun over P?
Yes I did, lol.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:33 pm
KRob86 wrote:
vs.
Two different but parallel groups imo. They both have one true spitter that everyone ranks highly. Both have a member who produces the majority of their albums and rap in the grp also. They almost have the exact same amount of official albums. Both are hardcore but had some mainstream success.
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell N/A Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare N/A UGK 4 Like vs. The Infamy N/A haven't heard Infamy
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you?
No, both in my top 15 though.
Shook Ones II vs. Murder
Great matchup but I gotta go with the track that has stood the test of time just a bit more.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:42 pm
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell Too Hard
Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Ridin Dirty, damn close though
Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Murda, listen to it a little more
Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight PUSH
Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare Dirty Money
UGK 4 Like vs. The Infamy n/a
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C Havoc, by a hair
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B Bun-B
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you? YES
Shook Ones II vs. Murder Murder, (SO was never one my favorites, shocker I know)
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:51 pm
Wow, this was a good idea for a thread...
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell.......Too Hard To Swallow Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous.........Ridin Dirty Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz..........Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight..............Hell on Earth Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare.................Dirty Money UGK 4 Like vs. The Infamy..........Push
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C...........Pimp C
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B.............Prodigy
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you?...............Absofuckinlutely
Shook Ones II vs. Murder...............Shook Ones II (One of the best of all time)
It really hurts to have to pick a best rapper in this one but I had to give the nod to Prodigy, Bun B has as many good verses, but more wack verses. I've always liked Havoc on the boards but he's nowhere near Pimp C in production, IMO. Then again, dem Country Rap Tunes is what we like Down in the Souf, lol. I would have picked Diamonds and Wood against Shook Ones II, though. Either way, my vote would have been the same.
"I got you stuck off the realness/ We be the Infamous, you heard of us/ Official Queensbridge murderas/"............So fuckin dope.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 3:55 pm
prodigy has more wack verses/albums than bun b IMO.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:21 pm
Mobb Deep in every category. By a landslide.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:22 pm
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare UGK 4 Life vs. The Infamy
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C- Close but I give that one to Havoc
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B- Prodigy all day. He's better solo than Bun is.
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you? Neither of them are, Mobb Deep used to be but they've since fallen off that list. Both are in my Top 15 though.
Shook Ones II vs. Murder- My two fav songs from both groups. I gotta go with Shook Ones Pt II, but Murder would probably win for me against any other Mobb song besides that or Eye For An Eye.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:24 pm
Gang Starr ATCQ Outkast Brand Nubian Outlawz Goodie Mobb Geto Boys Mobb Deep Wu-Tang De La Soul Three Six Mafia Bone Thugs Roots Public Enemy Run DMC NWA
UGK ISNT EVEN CLOSE. Take out a couple you don't like, still ten over them easy.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:33 pm
Steve wrote:
Gang Starr
Outkast
Wu-Tang
Public Enemy
UGK ISNT EVEN CLOSE. Take out a couple you don't like, still ten over them easy.
Just made my top 5
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:36 pm
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare UGK 4 Life vs. The Infamy - but not by much.
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C- I prefer Hav beats just a tad.
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B- Would have been Prod back in his prime but Bun has been way more consistant over the years.
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you? Yes.
Shook Ones II vs. Murder
And Mobb is a top 5 fav of mine and UGK is top 10 music wise. Individual artists wise i'll take Bun & Pimp over both memebers of Mobb Deep.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:40 pm
Steve wrote:
Gang Starr ATCQ Outkast Brand Nubian Outlawz Goodie Mobb Geto Boys Mobb Deep Wu-Tang De La Soul Three Six Mafia Bone Thugs Roots Public Enemy Run DMC NWA
UGK ISNT EVEN CLOSE. Take out a couple you don't like, still ten over them easy.
LMAO at a lot of these picks. Just say you do not like UGK because posting that those grps are betta than them is very suspect in my book.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:45 pm
KRob86 wrote:
Steve wrote:
Gang Starr ATCQ Outkast Brand Nubian Outlawz Goodie Mobb Geto Boys Mobb Deep Wu-Tang De La Soul Three Six Mafia Bone Thugs RootsPublic Enemy Run DMC NWA
UGK ISNT EVEN CLOSE. Take out a couple you don't like, still ten over them easy.
LMAO at a lot of these picks. Just say you do not like UGK because posting that those grps are betta than them is very suspect in my book.
And just to name two, in no way are Three 6 Mafia (SMH) and Outlawz better than UGK.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:46 pm
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prodigy has more wack verses/albums than bun b IMO.
I cosign here. Prodigy circa 1995-2000 was dope as hell on the mic.................. then Takeover happened, and on the mic, he literally hasn't been the same since.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:46 pm
KRob86 wrote:
Steve wrote:
Gang Starr ATCQ Outkast Brand Nubian Outlawz Goodie Mobb Geto Boys Mobb Deep Wu-Tang De La Soul Three Six Mafia Bone Thugs RootsPublic Enemy Run DMC NWA
UGK ISNT EVEN CLOSE. Take out a couple you don't like, still ten over them easy.
LMAO at a lot of these picks. Just say you do not like UGK because posting that those grps are betta than them is very suspect in my book.
I don't think Bone Thugs, 3-6 Mafia, or the Outlawz are as good as UGK (especially not the latter two) but The Roots fuckin SLAUGHTER them. I'd also take Brand Nubian over them too. Goodie Mob is on par with them.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:48 pm
Eastern Rap Pro wrote:
KRob86 wrote:
Steve wrote:
Gang Starr ATCQ Outkast Brand Nubian Outlawz Goodie Mobb Geto Boys Mobb Deep Wu-Tang De La Soul Three Six Mafia Bone Thugs RootsPublic Enemy Run DMC NWA
UGK ISNT EVEN CLOSE. Take out a couple you don't like, still ten over them easy.
LMAO at a lot of these picks. Just say you do not like UGK because posting that those grps are betta than them is very suspect in my book.
I don't think Bone Thugs, 3-6 Mafia, or the Outlawz are as good as UGK (especially not the latter two) but The Roots fuckin SLAUGHTER them. I'd also take Brand Nubian over them too. Goodie Mob is on par with them.
I'm a Bone Thugs fan also, but I agree, they're also not better than UGK.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:54 pm
Brand Nub and UGK should not even be allowed to be spoken in the same breath of it each other. I like Bran Nub but UGK is truly kicking them in their 5% ass.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:56 pm
Lmao at Wayne n keV for not reading, which is to be expected. keV took off 6, which leaves ten, and Wayne rook off two, which leaves14. Keep up dudes
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:57 pm
I could easily take off 7 or 8 that i don't like as much as UGK, but why bother?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:57 pm
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Lmao at Wayne n keV for not reading, which is to be expected. keV took off 6, which leaves ten, and Wayne rook off two, which leaves14. Keep up dudes
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 4:59 pm
Hmm my iPhone did that dunno why
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 5:01 pm
Steve wrote:
Lmao at Wayne n keV for not reading, which is to be expected. keV took off 6, which leaves ten, and Wayne rook off two, which leaves14. Keep up dudes
I never said that UGK was in my Top 10. I just don't think 3-6 or Outlawz are even on the same hemisphere as the Pimp and The Bun.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 5:01 pm
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I just don't think 3-6 or Outlawz are even on the same hemisphere as the Pimp and The Bun.
Cosign.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 5:01 pm
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Brand Nub and UGK should not even be allowed to be spoken in the same breath of it each other. I like Bran Nub but UGK is truly kicking them in their 5% ass.
Grand Puba and Sadat X>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bun B & Pimp C
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 5:07 pm
Brand nubian seriously sucks in comparison. their albums don't hold up, their careers don't hold up... their longevity didn't hold up. sadat and puba are shells of their former selves... bun is still the same elite emcee... add the fact pimp c was a classic producer as well... no question...it's a delusion to think brand nub is in the same hemisphere or planet as UGK.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 5:12 pm
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Brand nubian seriously sucks in comparison. their albums don't hold up, their careers don't hold up... their longevity didn't hold up. sadat and puba are shells of their former selves... bun is still the same elite emcee... add the fact pimp c was a classic producer as well... no question...it's a delusion to think brand nub is in the same hemisphere or planet as UGK.
Now, I do agree with some of these points. Without saying that Sadat and Puba are shells of their former selves, Brand Nubian will always be known for the classic "One For All" album, as well as classic singles like "Punks Jump Up To Get Beat Down" and "Don't Let It Go To Your Head", however, they're nowhere near as legendary or on the same "playing field" as UGK. I'm a fan of both though.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 6:20 pm
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell - easily. Near classic
Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous - With the quickness. The Infamous is great though.
Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz - UGK easy for me.
Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight - closest match-up here for me. UGK still wins.
Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare - N/A - have not heard AN
UGK 4 Life vs. The Infamy - erasy
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C - very close...
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B - more trill
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you? No - only UGK
Shook Ones II vs. Murder - easy
UGK in a sweep for me...
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 6:36 pm
Lmao @ bun being elite
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 6:46 pm
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Brand nubian seriously sucks in comparison. their albums don't hold up, their careers don't hold up... their longevity didn't hold up. sadat and puba are shells of their former selves... bun is still the same elite emcee... add the fact pimp c was a classic producer as well... no question...it's a delusion to think brand nub is in the same hemisphere or planet as UGK.
Grand Puba by himself takes out Bun B and Pimp C.....stop that Pedro..and have you heard Puba-Retroactive???
that shit is bananas....Puba has still got it baby bubba....as for Bun B he was NEVER considered an elite emcee except for those from Tex-ASS....he was always a very good spitter but elite?? elite is Ice Cube...elite is Rakim....elite is Big Daddy Kane...elite is Cool J....elite is Nas...elite is Biggie..etc...etc
Bun B is NOT fuckin with anyone mentioned up above my dude...sorry to burst that tex-ass sized bubble you' ve got right up in your mouth my dude!
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 6:47 pm
I mean... you have to stick with family powell, I understand.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 6:50 pm
Too Hard To Swallow vs. Juvenile Hell-Too Hard To Swallow....I didn't like Juvenile Hell at all
Ridin Dirty vs. The Infamous-this one is close, but The Infamous is better IMO
Murda Muzik vs. Underground Kingz-Murda Muzik all the damn way
Hell On Earth vs. Super Tight-Hell On Earth is killing this joint
Dirty Money vs. Amerikaz Nightmare-Dirty Money barely
UGK 4 Life vs. The Infamy-UGK 4 Life by quite a bit
Producer Wise Havoc or Pimp C-Chad was dope but Havoc is SICK...Havoc wins
Best Rapper Prodigy or Bun B-Prodigy is killing this dude man, it's not even close...P in his prime was ELITE
Are both top 10 grps of all time for you?UGK is top 20 of all-time...the Mobb slides into top 10 status IMO
Shook Ones II vs. Murder-Shook Ones...that fuckin song is TIMELESS baby bubba
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 6:57 pm
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Southern Rap Pro wrote:
Brand nubian seriously sucks in comparison. their albums don't hold up, their careers don't hold up... their longevity didn't hold up. sadat and puba are shells of their former selves... bun is still the same elite emcee... add the fact pimp c was a classic producer as well... no question...it's a delusion to think brand nub is in the same hemisphere or planet as UGK.
Grand Puba by himself takes out Bun B and Pimp C.....stop that Pedro..and have you heard Puba-Retroactive???
that shit is bananas....Puba has still got it baby bubba....as for Bun B he was NEVER considered an elite emcee except for those from Tex-ASS....he was always a very good spitter but elite?? elite is Ice Cube...elite is Rakim....elite is Big Daddy Kane...elite is Cool J....elite is Nas...elite is Biggie..etc...etc
Bun B is NOT fuckin with anyone mentioned up above my dude...sorry to burst that tex-ass sized bubble you' ve got right up in your mouth my dude!
Co-Sign 100% Powell. Also, One For All is as dope as any UGK album. Doper personally, but easily as dope objectively.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:01 pm
lol... You realize that saying it's objectivly as good is a subjective statement, right?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:04 pm
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lol... You realize that saying it's objectivly as good is a subjective statement, right?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:05 pm
anyone get the ras cd yet?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:07 pm
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anyone get the ras cd yet?
you get that nipsey hussle?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:08 pm
hey mane(mayne) when bun starts spitting shit like this...holla at cha boy!
Prodigy's voice is ILL....his flow is ILL....his lyrics were ILL.....dude was in ELITE status during this period!
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:09 pm
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hey mane(mayne) when bun starts spitting shit like this...holla at cha boy!
Prodigy's voice is ILL....his flow is ILL....his lyrics were ILL.....dude was in ELITE status during this period!
Was he good in bed?
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:16 pm
Powell...SRP prolly thinks Bun is better on Trill OG, he gives it 5 stars LMAO
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:21 pm
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Powell...SRP prolly thinks Bun is better on Trill OG, he gives it 5 stars LMAO
YIKES!
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:23 pm
Bun B is my primo.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:51 pm
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Brand nubian seriously sucks in comparison. their albums don't hold up, their careers don't hold up... their longevity didn't hold up. sadat and puba are shells of their former selves... bun is still the same elite emcee... add the fact pimp c was a classic producer as well... no question...it's a delusion to think brand nub is in the same hemisphere or planet as UGK.
Not sure I agree with all that (I did like Puba's last effort a lot).
But I agree in no way shape or form is Brand Nubian better. UGK is killin' it...as is Bun B.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:55 pm
Bun B is cool for white people and Mexicans only. Hence the 2 votes only.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:57 pm
In the streets bun b is consensus in the streets.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 7:59 pm
Styles P vs Pimp C. Right now.
Ghost versus dead guy....
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 8:04 pm
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Bun B is cool for white people and Mexicans only. Hence the 2 votes only.
lol
UGK is just far more entertaining to me. I can throw on a UGK CD anytime and enjoy it. Any album. Mobb Deep is hit and miss with me. I always felt their first 2 were classic, but now I rarely grab for their CDs anymore. UGK just has way more style IMO....
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 8:06 pm
I just think you prefer UGK - Mobb is pretty abrasive and might be too brash for you.
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Subject: Re: Mobb Deep Vs. UGK Thu 26 Aug 2010, 8:07 pm
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I just think you prefer UGK - Mobb is pretty abrasive and might be too brash for you.
Lol @ abrasive....wu tang was more abrasive when they dropped 36 chambers