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|  Subject: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 12:43 pm | |
| The live instrumentation, the updated sound quality, Elzhi's superior voice and flow. This shit is incredible. It's crazy fire. I think it's two times better than Illmatic. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 2:07 pm | |
| It's WAY better. Listen to it. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 2:16 pm | |
| Is he using the same beats and titles as Illmatic? Or is this something completely different?
I tried listening to this guy before and he bored my fucking eyelashes off almost.
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 2:19 pm | |
| Yes. It's live instrumentation.
Elzhi is the best rapper right now. Period |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 4:53 pm | |
| Kev, what Elzhi have you heard? If it was like 2005 or before Elzhi, I agree. He really reinvented his style and has more charisma these days.
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 4:55 pm | |
| I really like this CD and honestly do dig it more than illmatic, but that's just me. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 5:32 pm | |
| Give it a listen before you criticize
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 5:54 pm | |
| eLmatic is very very dope, but nah... not better than iLLmatic at all, not imo. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 6:02 pm | |
| | Shaun wrote: | | Give it a listen before you criticize |
I will, but I don't see my opinion changing being that Illmatic is my GOAT and I think Nas is superior to Elzhi. That coupled with the fact that neither SRP nor Linker are Illmatic fans makes me not take this thread seriously at all. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 7:18 pm | |
| You don't have to take this thread seriously, or even post if the though offends your sensibilities.
I don't expect anyone but me and maybe Elzhi's mom to like this more than Illmatic, but I do. I think the beats and his rhymes have more energy and sound fresher.
The only stupid thing about this thread is the fact that another person's opinion is so inconceivable to you that you feel the need to insult others. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 7:28 pm | |
| Yeah, I don't expect you to like this more than Illmatic. You really should check it out, though. Fresh production and dope lyrics throughout
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 7:36 pm | |
| | Southern Rap Pro wrote: | You don't have to take this thread seriously, or even post if the though offends your sensibilities.
I don't expect anyone but me and maybe Elzhi's mom to like this more than Illmatic, but I do. I think the beats and his rhymes have more energy and sound fresher.
The only stupid thing about this thread is the fact that another person's opinion is so inconceivable to you that you feel the need to insult others. |
Haha! I would have pulled out the Powers Boothe quote from Deadwood for that. "Y'all can help your delicate sensibilities, by turning the fuck away!" |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 8:10 pm | |
| No. This could possibly be the best hip-hop album ever made. And it's free!!!! |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 8:16 pm | |
| Nas as a lyricist is better than Elzhi, but that's it but not flow-wise. As an overall MC Elzhi is better than Biggie, Rakim, 2Pac, Chuck D, Scarface all them. He is a grade A rapper. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 8:16 pm | |
| The funny thing is this album is exactly the type of shit these guys would love...lol... |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 8:36 pm | |
| "As an overall MC Elzhi is better than Biggie, Rakim, 2Pac, Chuck D, Scarface all them. He is a grade A rapper."
Sure Linker and my name was Jason Bourne in a previous life....GTFOH |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:28 pm | |
| | Southern Rap Pro wrote: | | The funny thing is this album is exactly the type of shit these guys would love...lol... |
I'll check it out at some point. But comparing it to Illmatic just makes me say "GTFOH with that bullshit". To me, that's like comparing one of today's R&B albums and saying that it's better than Thriller or Songs In The Key Of Life, I just ain't seeing it.
Not to mention that this is a mixtape, and while I've enjoyed many mixtapes over the years, I don't generally hold them in as high regard as albums. I liked The Preface so I'm sure I'll like this, but even that album wasn't 5 stars so I doubt this is either. All that being said, I'll give it an honest listen. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:33 pm | |
| How the hell is it a mixtape? It's a remake of a specific album... |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:42 pm | |
| | parker lewis wrote: | | How the hell is it a mixtape? It's a remake of a specific album... |
It's free, therefore it's a mixtape. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:49 pm | |
| | KJ Styles wrote: | | parker lewis wrote: | | How the hell is it a mixtape? It's a remake of a specific album... |
It's free, therefore it's a mixtape. |
Error. A mixtape is a hodge-podge of random shit, or an in-n-out collabo. This is a free album. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:51 pm | |
| no remake interests me really... |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:51 pm | |
| Strictly Leakage from Atmosphere was free, and it was an album.
Back on topic, though, I think I'm liking this more than The Preface (which I have around 4.75 stars)
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:54 pm | |
| | parker lewis wrote: | | KJ Styles wrote: | | parker lewis wrote: | | How the hell is it a mixtape? It's a remake of a specific album... |
It's free, therefore it's a mixtape. |
Error. A mixtape is a hodge-podge of random shit, or an in-n-out collabo. This is a free album. |
Elzhi's Wiki page also lists it as a mixtape. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:56 pm | |
| Elzhi's Wiki page is a Wiki page... |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 9:59 pm | |
| "Elzhi's Wiki page also lists it as a mixtape."
I hope somebody in your life gets to slap the shit out of you. How else could they cope? |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Wed 11 May 2011, 10:10 pm | |
| Yep, just because it is free does not make it a mixtape - it is a free remake of an album and is an ALBUM.
Just like that Mistah FAB is an album!
Furthermore, how can you get upset at comparisons to ILLMATIC when it is a REMAKE of ILLMATIC! IT WILL NATURALLY BE COMPARED TO THAT WHICH IT IS REMAKING! |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 12:06 am | |
| I listened to a couple tracks last night and a couple just now. I haven't listened to Illmatic in many, many years and don't remember it that well, so this is all pretty fresh listening to me. If the title wasn't a play off of it and you guys hadn't told me it was a remake, I wouldn't have been able to tell. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 12:33 am | |
| I could tell by sound quality alone. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 12:54 am | |
| | Justin Linker wrote: | | I could tell by sound quality alone. |
So all the beats are the same, just updated. I mean, I could go do the research myself, I do have Illmatic, this just seems easier to ask you. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 1:17 am | |
| They just replayed. On Illmatic, they were sampled. On here the guy used live instrumentation to reproduce those sample sequences. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 1:37 am | |
| Ya, Ya I got that it was live, I just didn't know if what they were doing is note for note basically. Thanks JL, I should just listen to both track for track to see for myself what the Holyfield is. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 1:49 am | |
| Oh yeah, I just listened to both ...State Of Minds, Elzhi's is much cleaner, sounds a lot better. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 2:00 am | |
| NY State of Mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Detroit State of Mind
They beat on eLZhi's version is like nails on a chalk board to me. Nas' version is very potentially my GOAT hip-hop song. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 2:24 am | |
| | thelundquist wrote: | NY State of Mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Detroit State of Mind
They beat on eLZhi's version is like nails on a chalk board to me. Nas' version is very potentially my GOAT hip-hop song. |
Your favorite hip hop song came out when you were in kindergarten Lundquist? You truely are a renaissance man. Please accept my humble apologies for dropping a deuce on NY State Of Mind in your presence. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 2:30 am | |
| Lol it's straight. And yes it did. Is that odd? Granted I didn't hear it until I was 15, but yeah it very well may be my favorite. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 2:35 am | |
| It seems odd to me, but what do I know. I suppose it's no different then a lot of my favorite Reggae being released in the 70's. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 2:50 am | |
| That's seems like a fair comparison to me. A very large majority of my favorite hip-hop came out pre-2000s. ...and really most of the music I like I was unaware of when it was actually released... |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 8:20 am | |
| | TicNitty706 wrote: |
I tried listening to this guy before and he bored my fucking eyelashes off almost. |
Thats how I felt too with the Preface. Errbody else seemed to think it was the bees knees. I'll check this out though because the live instrument remake sounds very appealing to this wannabe producer. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 8:40 am | |
| Wow...I'm def diggin this shit...listenin to One Love...holy shit, the breakdown...woooooweeeee!
I can see how Linker or any of the younger generation could think this is better than Illmatic. It just sounds clean and crisp. You guys know me, I have always thought that Hip Hop just keeps getting better, so I think its natural that a spitter today should sound better than a spitter from 92, all other things being equal. That being said, tho, this is not better than Illmatic. Nas had so much soul on Illmatic he makes you feel like you're standing out on the corner with him holdin the blunt down while he spits stories...classic shit. |
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| You can't duplicate soul.
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 10:15 am | |
| I love how y'all think I was serious about Elmatic being better than Illmatic. Hell, I haven't even heard Elmatic yet.  |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 10:43 am | |
| | Wanduras wrote: | Wow...I'm def diggin this shit...listenin to One Love...holy shit, the breakdown...woooooweeeee!
I can see how Linker or any of the younger generation could think this is better than Illmatic. It just sounds clean and crisp. You guys know me, I have always thought that Hip Hop just keeps getting better, so I think its natural that a spitter today should sound better than a spitter from 92, all other things being equal. That being said, tho, this is not better than Illmatic. Nas had so much soul on Illmatic he makes you feel like you're standing out on the corner with him holdin the blunt down while he spits stories...classic shit. |
To me Nas is the one with no soul on illmatic.. I just don't see or hear any soul in his rhymes or that album...I think people really into "wordplay" love that CD, but Nas flow and delivery are pretty straightforward and soulless to me on there. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 11:56 am | |
| Everytime you comment on a Nas related subject, I automatically hear Jay's "Hate" playing in the background...lol. |
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| | Subject: Re: Elmatic is better than Illmatic Thu 12 May 2011, 1:57 pm | |
| I automatically hear Beanie Sigels "The Truth" |
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