Your all time starting 5

Subject: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 8:49 pm

NBA Fans, what would be your all time starting 5? Mine would be....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan

Feel free to copy this if you want, otherwise who you got??

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 9:09 pm

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Scottie Pippen
PF Karl Malone
C Shaquille O'Neal

I think this starting five with everyone on this team in their prime years (meaning they would all be between 27 and 30 years old) is an unbeatable and extremely strong and physically imposing starting 5 especially in the frontcourt my goodness....I mean who the fuck is stopping the Mailman and the Diesel from getting to the cup?? lol

and defensively they match-up against anyone too....I'll pick this starting five all day every damn day...lol

on my bench would be:

PG Jason Kidd
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Hakeem Olajuwon

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 9:21 pm

PG Kidd
SG Terry
SF Marion
PF Nowitzki
C Chandler

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 9:50 pm

I guess I should add a bench too, but first I'll give my starting lineup again....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar

And here's my bench

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Julius Erving
PF Karl Malone
C/PF Bill Russell
*C Wilt Chamberlain
*SG/PG Walt Frazier
*SF/PF Charles Barkley

This team would beat Pedro's by 60, and Powell's by at least 30.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 9:54 pm

PG- Isiah Thomas
SG- Mike Jordan
SF- Lebron James
PF- Dennis Rodman
C- Kareem Abdul Jabbar

No ones team will be able to score on this line-up.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 10:09 pm

KJ Styles wrote:

I guess I should add a bench too, but first I'll give my starting lineup again....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar

And here's my bench

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Julius Erving
PF Karl Malone
C/PF Bill Russell
*C Wilt Chamberlain
*SG/PG Walt Frazier
*SF/PF Charles Barkley

This team would beat Pedro's by 60, and Powell's by at least 30.

LMAO...yeah right...KJ your funny my dude....Bird is better than Scottie but I believe Scottie could D that ass up a little something and Duncan is a great player but Malone in his prime IMO would be to powerful for him...Duncan cannot stop Malone from scoring in anyway, shape or form and Jabbar although he is the all-time leading scorer is a finesse player so there is no fucking way he is stopping a primetime Shaq...Shaq would run right over his ass and leave him flat......Jabbar could put up some points against Shaq but Shaq would over power him when it was all said and done

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 10:53 pm

I know you got jokes KJ, but my team features 2 sure fire top 25 all time hall of famers and a potential hofer in Marion.

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Kevin Willis
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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 7:01 am

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

I know you got jokes KJ, but my team features 2 sure fire top 25 all time hall of famers and a potential hofer in Marion.

Dirk and Kidd are first ballot hall of famers no doubt about that...but Shawn Marion??? maybe before the injury you never know but now although he is still a good player he is not in the hall of fame conversations anymore...lol

Good win by the Mavs last night by the way......they must keep LeBum from getting his ring....let's go Mavs Smile

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D.Powell wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

I guess I should add a bench too, but first I'll give my starting lineup again....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar

And here's my bench

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Julius Erving
PF Karl Malone
C/PF Bill Russell
*C Wilt Chamberlain
*SG/PG Walt Frazier
*SF/PF Charles Barkley

This team would beat Pedro's by 60, and Powell's by at least 30.

LMAO...yeah right...KJ your funny my dude....Bird is better than Scottie but I believe Scottie could D that ass up a little something and Duncan is a great player but Malone in his prime IMO would be to powerful for him...Duncan cannot stop Malone from scoring in anyway, shape or form and Jabbar although he is the all-time leading scorer is a finesse player so there is no fucking way he is stopping a primetime Shaq...Shaq would run right over his ass and leave him flat......Jabbar could put up some points against Shaq but Shaq would over power him when it was all said and done

Malone is a 1st ballot HOFer, but IMO he's probably one of the most overrated HOF players ever. As much as he is overrated, Stockton is equally underrated. People focus far too much on scoring. It's an overrated stat. John Stockton has accounted for more overall point(points + points from assists) than virtually every other player to play the game. He's got more than Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Shaq, Malone, and Wilt. He's also a 5x 2nd all NBA Team defender, and the all time steals leader. I'm not saying Stockton is better than those guys, but i think he is arguably the most underrated 1st ballot HOFer i have ever seen.

Anyway, the point i was getting to is Duncan>>>>>>>>Malone.

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PG-Magic Johnson(his versatility and size makes him tough to defend, and it opens up many other options because he can play multiple positions)
SG-Michael Jordan(this is a no brainer)
C-Bill Russell(I got scoring with Jordan. Russell will hold down the paint. Russell's defense>>>>)
SF-Larry Bird(Jordan will need a knock down shooter when he's on the court, and Larry can assume the #1 role when Jordan's on the bench)
PF-Tim Duncan(his defense, leadership, toughness, unselfishness, and post game will fit in nicely with my team.)

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:07 am

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

I guess I should add a bench too, but first I'll give my starting lineup again....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar

And here's my bench

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Julius Erving
PF Karl Malone
C/PF Bill Russell
*C Wilt Chamberlain
*SG/PG Walt Frazier
*SF/PF Charles Barkley

This team would beat Pedro's by 60, and Powell's by at least 30.

LMAO...yeah right...KJ your funny my dude....Bird is better than Scottie but I believe Scottie could D that ass up a little something and Duncan is a great player but Malone in his prime IMO would be to powerful for him...Duncan cannot stop Malone from scoring in anyway, shape or form and Jabbar although he is the all-time leading scorer is a finesse player so there is no fucking way he is stopping a primetime Shaq...Shaq would run right over his ass and leave him flat......Jabbar could put up some points against Shaq but Shaq would over power him when it was all said and done

Malone is a 1st ballot HOFer, but IMO he's probably one of the most overrated HOF players ever. As much as he is overrated, Stockton is equally underrated. People focus far too much on scoring. It's an overrated stat. John Stockton has accounted for more overall point(points + points from assists) than virtually every other player to play the game. He's got more than Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Shaq, Malone, and Wilt. He's also a 5x 2nd all NBA Team defender, and the all time steals leader. I'm not saying Stockton is better than those guys, but i think he is arguably the most underrated 1st ballot HOFer i have ever seen.

Anyway, the point i was getting to is Duncan>>>>>>>>Malone.

Karl Malone is overrated because he scores too many points Terry?? is that what your saying here?? because if you are then your basketball card has just been put in the toilet bowl my dude.....

Malone played defense about a notch below Duncan....He was at least equal to him on the free throw line....He was way stronger than him....He scored just as well as him in the paint...Duncan had a better jump shot.....both were slam dunk experts although Malone's were more powerful and to be honest with you quite scary for opposing players....the main thing that Duncan has over him is the rings, but anybody playing during the time that Michael Jordan was dominant was NOT winning shit unless they joined the Chicago Bulls and that goes for Barkley, Ewing, Miller, Malone, Stockton, Kemp, Payton and anyone else......Olajuwon and Drexler got a brief reprieve because Mike went off to go and hit a fastball for 2 years and they smartly took advantage of that shit...because if Timmy was playing during Mike's dominant time zone then he wouldn't have any rings either and this my friend is a FACT....he won his first ring in 1999 (when Mike stepped off for the second time)....lol

Malone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duncan all damn day IN MY OPINION! and Timmy is a great player but Malone was just better IN MY OPINION! Timmy is on my second team.....

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:20 am

They both suck and the mailman couldn't deliver on sunday so fuck him more...

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D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

I guess I should add a bench too, but first I'll give my starting lineup again....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar

And here's my bench

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Julius Erving
PF Karl Malone
C/PF Bill Russell
*C Wilt Chamberlain
*SG/PG Walt Frazier
*SF/PF Charles Barkley

This team would beat Pedro's by 60, and Powell's by at least 30.

LMAO...yeah right...KJ your funny my dude....Bird is better than Scottie but I believe Scottie could D that ass up a little something and Duncan is a great player but Malone in his prime IMO would be to powerful for him...Duncan cannot stop Malone from scoring in anyway, shape or form and Jabbar although he is the all-time leading scorer is a finesse player so there is no fucking way he is stopping a primetime Shaq...Shaq would run right over his ass and leave him flat......Jabbar could put up some points against Shaq but Shaq would over power him when it was all said and done

Malone is a 1st ballot HOFer, but IMO he's probably one of the most overrated HOF players ever. As much as he is overrated, Stockton is equally underrated. People focus far too much on scoring. It's an overrated stat. John Stockton has accounted for more overall point(points + points from assists) than virtually every other player to play the game. He's got more than Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Shaq, Malone, and Wilt. He's also a 5x 2nd all NBA Team defender, and the all time steals leader. I'm not saying Stockton is better than those guys, but i think he is arguably the most underrated 1st ballot HOFer i have ever seen.

Anyway, the point i was getting to is Duncan>>>>>>>>Malone.

Karl Malone is overrated because he scores too many points Terry?? is that what your saying here?? because if you are then your basketball card has just been put in the toilet bowl my dude.....

Malone played defense about a notch below Duncan....He was at least equal to him on the free throw line....He was way stronger than him....He scored just as well as him in the paint...Duncan had a better jump shot.....both were slam dunk experts although Malone's were more powerful and to be honest with you quite scary for opposing players....the main thing that Duncan has over him is the rings, but anybody playing during the time that Michael Jordan was dominant was NOT winning shit unless they joined the Chicago Bulls and that goes for Barkley, Ewing, Miller, Malone, Stockton, Kemp, Payton and anyone else......Olajuwon and Drexler got a brief reprieve because Mike went off to go and hit a fastball for 2 years and they smartly took advantage of that shit...because if Timmy was playing during Mike's dominant time zone then he wouldn't have any rings either and this my friend is a FACT....he won his first ring in 1999 (when Mike stepped off for the second time)....lol

Malone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duncan all damn day IN MY OPINION! and Timmy is a great player but Malone was just better IN MY OPINION! Timmy is on my second team.....

No, he's not overrated because he scores too many points. I said points are an overrated stat. There is a difference Stars who don't score in bunches rarely get the same press as the stars scoring 25-30 points a game, and that's why Stockton is underrated. I said Malone was a HOF player. I just think he's one of the more overrated HOF players. I am telling you that i think Stockton was more important to that team than Malone.

Duncan hasn't had the luxury of playing virtually his entire career with another HOFer, and his numbers are still crazy. I understand Duncan didn't have Jordan to contend with, but Duncan still led his team to 4 rings. How come Malone couldn't get to the finals more than twice? MJ had nothing to do with the western conference.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 12:25 pm

Terry the bottomline is this...if Duncan had started his career in let's say 1990...then he would have NO rings...unless he won them at the same time that Olajuwon won his.......there is a reason why Michael Jordan is the fuckin GOAT....he stopped some of the greatest players of all-time from getting any rings....it's not Duncan's fault when he was born so that's besides the point but he's lucky he wasn't in the conversation during Mike's dominant period because then his ass just joins the rest of 'em......how many times you get to the finals means nothing if your ringless right?? while Malone had Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Paxson and Pippen standing in his way...Duncan has had Sprewell/Houston/Johnson....Kidd/Martin/Jefferson....Hamilton/Wallace/Billups.....and Lebron/Snow/Marshall standing in the way of his 4 rings....LMAO

if Ewing could have only played against the likes of that "competition" then he too may have had 3 or 4 rings and so would have Sir Charles, Reggie Miller....Stockton and Malone....Kemp and Payton and Hakeem and Drexler may have had a total of 5 rings...lol

it's all speculation of course but Malone was just a better player than Duncan...just too damn powerful.....and again I love Timmy's game...but boy he better thank his parents everyday for waiting to have sex and make his ass...LMAO...cause that Jordan factor would have swallowed him up too...lol

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I agree with you that a lot of great players missed out on rings because of Jordan. Since this is the case, we already know that Malone's ceiling was essentially winning the western conference. How come he was only able to reach his ceiling twice(while playing with another HOFer)? Duncan was able to reach his ceiling 4 times without a legit HOFer. I know Robinson was there for 2 of those, but he was a shell by that time.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:51 pm

T. Myers wrote:

I agree with you that a lot of great players missed out on rings because of Jordan. Since this is the case, we already know that Malone's ceiling was essentially winning the western conference. How come he was only able to reach his ceiling twice(while playing with another HOFer)? Duncan was able to reach his ceiling 4 times without a legit HOFer. I know Robinson was there for 2 of those, but he was a shell by that time.

Terry I'm going to throw out a few names at you and you tell me why Malone and Stockton had problems reaching the western conference finals every damn year....

Hakeem Olajuwon
Clyde Drexler
David Robinson
Detlef Schrempf
Chris Mullin
A young Tim Hardaway (Golden State)
Derek Harper
Rolando Blackman
Charles Barkley
Dikembe Mutombo
Shawn Kemp
Gary Payton

do you think Timmy would have made as many NBA finals as he did playing that type of talent to get there on a yearly basis??? again this is a speculative question but look at those names man.....think about it...lol

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:57 pm

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Mookie Blaylock
Joe Johnson
Dominique Wilkins
Josh Smith
Al Horford

Bench

Jamal Crawford
Jeff Teague
Steve Smith
Kevin Willis
Zaza Pachulia
Dikembe Mutombo

They'd be on my team too, but other than that...NBA =

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D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I agree with you that a lot of great players missed out on rings because of Jordan. Since this is the case, we already know that Malone's ceiling was essentially winning the western conference. How come he was only able to reach his ceiling twice(while playing with another HOFer)? Duncan was able to reach his ceiling 4 times without a legit HOFer. I know Robinson was there for 2 of those, but he was a shell by that time.

Terry I'm going to throw out a few names at you and you tell me why Malone and Stocktonhad problems reaching the western conference finals every damn year....

Hakeem Olajuwon
Clyde Drexler
David Robinson
Detlef Schrempf
Chris Mullin
A young Tim Hardaway (Golden State)
Derek Harper
Rolando Blackman
Charles Barkley
Dikembe Mutombo
Shawn Kemp
Gary Payton

do you think Timmy would have made as many NBA finals as he did playing that type of talent to get there on a yearly basis??? again this is a speculative question but look at those names man.....think about it...lol

Malone is better than every last one of those players except Olajuwon, and none of those teams have a 2nd player as good as Stockton with the exception of maybe Drexler in Houston. That talent is no excuse. Plus Duncan has gone through plenty of great players to get to the finals.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:46 pm

Myestro wrote:

Zaza Pachulia wrote:

Mookie Blaylock
Joe Johnson
Dominique Wilkins
Josh Smith
Al Horford

Bench

Jamal Crawford
Jeff Teague
Steve Smith
Kevin Willis
Zaza Pachulia
Dikembe Mutombo

They'd be on my team too, but other than that...NBA =

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:51 pm

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
C: Hakeem Olajuwon
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Charles Barkley

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:19 pm

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I agree with you that a lot of great players missed out on rings because of Jordan. Since this is the case, we already know that Malone's ceiling was essentially winning the western conference. How come he was only able to reach his ceiling twice(while playing with another HOFer)? Duncan was able to reach his ceiling 4 times without a legit HOFer. I know Robinson was there for 2 of those, but he was a shell by that time.

Terry I'm going to throw out a few names at you and you tell me why Malone and Stocktonhad problems reaching the western conference finals every damn year....

Hakeem Olajuwon
Clyde Drexler
David Robinson
Detlef Schrempf
Chris Mullin
A young Tim Hardaway (Golden State)
Derek Harper
Rolando Blackman
Charles Barkley
Dikembe Mutombo
Shawn Kemp
Gary Payton

do you think Timmy would have made as many NBA finals as he did playing that type of talent to get there on a yearly basis??? again this is a speculative question but look at those names man.....think about it...lol

Malone is better than every last one of those players except Olajuwon, and none of those teams have a 2nd player as good as Stockton with the exception of maybe Drexler in Houston. That talent is no excuse. Plus Duncan has gone through plenty of great players to get to the finals.

The talent level overall then was stronger....so simple even a caveman could see it....lol...that's my point Terry! oh and let's not forget a young Kevin Garnett even if he wasn't in the playoffs on a regular basis then....I'd put a young KG over a young Kevin Love anyday....lol...just a comparison on the talent levels of today to yesterday

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:22 pm

thelundquist wrote:

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
C: Hakeem Olajuwon
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Charles Barkley

that's a strong starting five right there man......that would be an extremely hard to beat team.....plenty of rebounds, defense and points....

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:37 pm

And Terry by the way why did you say that when Malone was doing his thang that David Robinson was a "shell" of himself???

The Admiral was doing his thing throughout the 90's...he won the MVP of the league in 1995 which is also when Malone and Stockton were still doing their thang too....

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stop sleeping on Dave mane.....lol...he was hardly a "shell" of himself then...if anything he was in his prime.......and he was another huge obstacle for Malone and Stockton as well as those other names and hall of famers I mentioned....by the way Chris Mullin as an example is a hall of famer too......that list of names is DEEP mane...lol

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:46 pm

"stop sleeping on Dave mane.....lol...he was hardly a "shell" of himself then...if anything he was in his prime......."

From 1999 and on? Duncan took that team over in the 98-99 season, and never looked back. I would say Robinson was much more a shell than in his prime by that time.

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I said Robinson was a shell during Duncan's time not Malone's time.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 5:45 pm

T. Myers wrote:

I said Robinson was a shell during Duncan's time not Malone's time.

I'm talking about Malone and Stockton having to go through Mr.Robinson as another obstacle and this was during his prime thats what I'm referring too

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You asked me why I said Robinson was a shell during Malone's time.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 9:12 pm

T. Myers wrote:

You asked me why I said Robinson was a shell during Malone's time.

correct...because during Malone's dominant era, Robinson was still dominant as well and provided yet another hall of fame obstacle for Malone and Stockton to overcome..that was my point...

you said he was a "shell" of himself during that time and I'm disagreeing with that but obviously if you meant the late 90's and Timmy's era then yes by then he was alot slower and a bit older....but by then so was Malone and Stockton as well which made it that much easier for Timmy to push on past them in the playoffs...

Timmy's overall path to the playoffs although filled with many potholes and great/good players was nowhere near as treacherous as what Karl and John had to go through on a yearly basis IMO (go review that hall of fame list I put up earlier)...and then of course once he (Timmy) hit the finals there was also no Jordan factor standing there waiting for him either...so 4 rings sounds about right for a great player like Timmy is....but make no mistake about it...if Malone and Stockton were running at full speed during his era or if Mike was still waiting in the wings in those finals then Timmy would not have had 4 rings IN MY OPINION....again this is obviously all spectulation...but it's interesting to sit back and think about it all....lol

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 10:29 pm

I can't comment on what I haven't seen and I've made that clear in other threads. While I grew up in the 90's I didn't start watching roundball consistently till high school (around 2004). As a result, I did not see any of MJ in his prime. I realize he's widely regarded as the GOAT but since I can only base my results off what I've seen (highlights DO NOT cut it IMO) here is what Ive come up with...

PG: Chris Paul
SG: Kobe
SF: LBJ
PF: Duncan
C: Shaq

Honorable Mentions:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Iverson
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk
C: Dwight Howard

Let me repeat this is based off what I've seen before the blowhards in here over-react. I have seen highlights of just about all those greats listed above so its not like I'm not familiar with them.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 10:55 pm

D.Powell wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

I guess I should add a bench too, but first I'll give my starting lineup again....

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Tim Duncan
C Kareem-Abdul Jabbar

And here's my bench

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Julius Erving
PF Karl Malone
C/PF Bill Russell
*C Wilt Chamberlain
*SG/PG Walt Frazier
*SF/PF Charles Barkley

This team would beat Pedro's by 60, and Powell's by at least 30.

LMAO...yeah right...KJ your funny my dude....Bird is better than Scottie but I believe Scottie could D that ass up a little something and Duncan is a great player but Malone in his prime IMO would be to powerful for him...Duncan cannot stop Malone from scoring in anyway, shape or form and Jabbar although he is the all-time leading scorer is a finesse player so there is no fucking way he is stopping a primetime Shaq...Shaq would run right over his ass and leave him flat......Jabbar could put up some points against Shaq but Shaq would over power him when it was all said and done

Scottie is dope no doubt, but he's not fucking with Bird OR Dr. J. Duncan can handle Malone. Karl would do well against him but Duncan in his prime would give Malone fits as well. Duncan IMO is the best PF of all time and his four rings prove that. As for Shaq, he can't stop Kareem's skyhook. And don't forget my bench dude, I've got nothing but Top 30 players on my bench. Kidd is dope but he's not fucking with The Big O, who can do everything Kidd can do PLUS score 20+ a game. Then I got Dr J, Wilt The Stilt, Sir Charles, The original Clyde, and the ultimate winner Bill Russell. Your team is good, but mine is like murderers row. Real Talk!

And Pedro, you've got two HOF'ers, but my team is NOTHING BUT HOF'ers. Checkmate!

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:01 pm

Solar Deity wrote:

I can't comment on what I haven't seen and I've made that clear in other threads. While I grew up in the 90's I didn't start watching roundball consistently till high school (around 2004). As a result, I did not see any of MJ in his prime. I realize he's widely regarded as the GOAT but since I can only base my results off what I've seen (highlights DO NOT cut it IMO) here is what Ive come up with...

PG: Chris Paul
SG: Kobe
SF: LBJ
PF: Duncan
C: Shaq

Honorable Mentions:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Iverson
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk
C: Dwight Howard

Let me repeat this is based off what I've seen before the blowhards in here over-react. I have seen highlights of just about all those greats listed above so its not like I'm not familiar with them.

Ok, I'm not going to overreact and I understand that you never saw MJ in his prime but that shouldn't matter. If you've seen highlights/footage of his games you could easily see that he's the GOAT, same with a bunch of other guys that were before your time. I never saw Muhammad Ali in his prime, but I've seen his fights on tape and he's become my favorite athlete of all time because of that. Not criticizing you, but just sayin.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:02 pm

"If you've seen highlights/footage of his games you could easily see that he's the GOAT"

lol...

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:06 pm

Shaun wrote:

"If you've seen highlights/footage of his games you could easily see that he's the GOAT"

lol...

I don't see how that's such a ludicrous statement. ESPN Classic plays old Bulls games all the time.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:09 pm

So if you watch some Tim Duncan highlights, you have evidence enough to say he is the GOAT PF?

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:11 pm

KJ Styles wrote:

Ok, I'm not going to overreact and I understand that you never saw MJ in his prime but that shouldn't matter. If you've seen highlights/footage of his games you could easily see that he's the GOAT, same with a bunch of other guys that were before your time. I never saw Muhammad Ali in his prime, but I've seen his fights on tape and he's become my favorite athlete of all time because of that. Not criticizing you, but just sayin.

I had a feeling you would respond like that and we have had this discussion before. This is just a case of agreeing to disagree.

I can only go by what I have seen on a consistent basis night in and night out. If highlights are enough for you that's fine. I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their way of thinking. I'm just trying to contribute to this thread the best I can.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:12 pm

Shaun wrote:

So if you watch some Tim Duncan highlights, you have evidence enough to say he is the GOAT PF?

Perhaps, although there's not much of a gap between Duncan and Malone. But Jordan is hands down the GOAT overall.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:40 pm

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Julius Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrving
PF: Dennis Rodman
C: Wilt Chamberlain

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D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

You asked me why I said Robinson was a shell during Malone's time.

correct...because during Malone's dominant era, Robinson was still dominant as well and provided yet another hall of fame obstacle for Malone and Stockton to overcome..that was my point...

you said he was a "shell" of himself during that time and I'm disagreeing with that but obviously if you meant the late 90's and Timmy's era then yes by then he was alot slower and a bit older....but by then so was Malone and Stockton as well which made it that much easier for Timmy to push on past them in the playoffs...

Timmy's overall path to the playoffs although filled with many potholes and great/good players was nowhere near as treacherous as what Karl and John had to go through on a yearly basis IMO (go review that hall of fame list I put up earlier)...and then of course once he (Timmy) hit the finals there was also no Jordan factor standing there waiting for him either...so 4 rings sounds about right for a great player like Timmy is....but make no mistake about it...if Malone and Stockton were running at full speed during his era or if Mike was still waiting in the wings in those finals then Timmy would not have had 4 rings IN MY OPINION....again this is obviously all spectulation...but it's interesting to sit back and think about it all....lol

I said Robinson was a shell by the Duncan won his rings. Also, not all of those players you listed are HOFers. Kemp probably ate his way out of the HOF. Hardaway may be borderline. Harper was never even an all-star to my knowledge. Blackman is not HOF material. Schrempf(who is one of my favorite players from the 90's) is not a HOFer. Like i said, Duncan had plenty of great player to go through. Was the talent and the game itself better in the late 80's and the 90's than it was during Duncan's prime? That's a different discussion, but here's the list of surefire HOFers Duncan had to contend with.

Malone and Stockton were only one year removed from the finals when Duncan won his first.
Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash
Shaq
Kobe
Garnett
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson
Stoudemire
Melo

It's not like Duncan had a cake walk to the finals.

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 8:52 am

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

You asked me why I said Robinson was a shell during Malone's time.

correct...because during Malone's dominant era, Robinson was still dominant as well and provided yet another hall of fame obstacle for Malone and Stockton to overcome..that was my point...

you said he was a "shell" of himself during that time and I'm disagreeing with that but obviously if you meant the late 90's and Timmy's era then yes by then he was alot slower and a bit older....but by then so was Malone and Stockton as well which made it that much easier for Timmy to push on past them in the playoffs...

Timmy's overall path to the playoffs although filled with many potholes and great/good players was nowhere near as treacherous as what Karl and John had to go through on a yearly basis IMO (go review that hall of fame list I put up earlier)...and then of course once he (Timmy) hit the finals there was also no Jordan factor standing there waiting for him either...so 4 rings sounds about right for a great player like Timmy is....but make no mistake about it...if Malone and Stockton were running at full speed during his era or if Mike was still waiting in the wings in those finals then Timmy would not have had 4 rings IN MY OPINION....again this is obviously all spectulation...but it's interesting to sit back and think about it all....lol

I said Robinson was a shell by the Duncan won his rings. Also, not all of those players you listed are HOFers. Kemp probably ate his way out of the HOF. Hardaway may be borderline. Harper was never even an all-star to my knowledge. Blackman is not HOF material. Schrempf(who is one of my favorite players from the 90's) is not a HOFer. Like i said, Duncan had plenty of great player to go through. Was the talent and the game itself better in the late 80's and the 90's than it was during Duncan's prime? That's a different discussion, but here's the list of surefire HOFers Duncan had to contend with.

Malone and Stockton were only one year removed from the finals when Duncan won his first.
Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash
Shaq
Kobe
Garnett
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson
Stoudemire
Melo

It's not like Duncan had a cake walk to the finals.

thats a strong list Terry but not as strong as what Malone and Stockton went through on a yearly basis....I can tell your not fully aware of Derek Harper and Rolando Blackman especially the latter....his defense was NUTS...and his jump shot was consistent...he's borderline HOF material easily.....and Harper in today's NBA would be first team....the talent level back though was such that he was squeezed out of the all-star game consistently.....I mean you also had beasts like Mitch Richmond on the Kings killing shit too...more for Stockton and Malone to deal with...do your homework and you'll see what I mean......and did you see who Timmy actually played in the finals the years he made it?? a fuckin joke IN MY OPINION especially that 2007 Cavaliers team.....DISGUSTING my dude....lol.....go look at that roster and tell me thats a finals team.... Get The Fuck Out

but again its not Timmy's fault who makes it...he just beat whoever was put there plain and simple....but again he is so fuckin lucky that he was not up against that Jordan factor.....that Barkley (primetime factor) that Payton/Kemp (primetime factor)...that Malone/Stockton (primetime factor) in 1998 right before Timmy started winning that was an old version of Malone/Stockton...which explains why they never sniffed the finals as a tandem ever again after that.....that Hardaway/Mullin (primetime factor).....that Drexler/Olajuwon (primetime factor)....that Mitch Richmond (primetime factor) and he never really made the playoffs and still was alot to deal with...that Rolando Blackman/Derek Harper (primetime factor)....that Detlef Schrempf (primetime factor)....that David Robinson (primetime factor) I'm listing him because Malone and Stockton had to deal with his ass every year...lol

I feel your opinion about Timmy mane....he is on my second team as the second best power forward of all-time not too far behind the best Karl Malone

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

everything that a PF should be....an enforcer...a complement to the center....almost like a small center....these guys did it the best

somebody like Derrick Coleman could have easily made that list with all of his talent but his mind and his heart is what stopped him from being an all-time great not his talent because talent wise he was just as good as Timmy...REAL TALK but his head was a fuckin mess.....

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 11:28 am

[quote="D.Powell"][quote="T. Myers"][quote="D.Powell"]

T. Myers wrote:

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

Dude, you're forgetting about Bob Pettit, Elvin Hayes, and Dave DeBusschere. Those three are easily better than Rodman and Oakley. Hell, I'd put Pettit in the Top 4-5.

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 1:35 pm

[quote="KJ Styles"][quote="D.Powell"][quote="T. Myers"]

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

Dude, you're forgetting about Bob Pettit, Elvin Hayes, and Dave DeBusschere. Those three are easily better than Rodman and Oakley. Hell, I'd put Pettit in the Top 4-5.

KJ when did you ever see Bob Pettit play man??? or Elvin Hayes?? or Dave DeBusschere?? stop googling fuckin lists man.... Clyde Frazier or Earl The Pearl transcend the game so I could see you naming them at their respective positions but these other dudes and even Oscar Robinson?? Get The Fuck Out

your full of shit my dude and at least I'm telling you the truth.... Laughing My Ass Off

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 1:44 pm

Solar Deity wrote:

I can't comment on what I haven't seen and I've made that clear in other threads. While I grew up in the 90's I didn't start watching roundball consistently till high school (around 2004). As a result, I did not see any of MJ in his prime. I realize he's widely regarded as the GOAT but since I can only base my results off what I've seen (highlights DO NOT cut it IMO) here is what Ive come up with...

PG: Chris Paul
SG: Kobe
SF: LBJ
PF: Duncan
C: Shaq

Honorable Mentions:
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Iverson
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk
C: Dwight Howard

Let me repeat this is based off what I've seen before the blowhards in here over-react. I have seen highlights of just about all those greats listed above so its not like I'm not familiar with them.

Appreciate the HONESTY Cise....that's what's up mane!

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 1:46 pm

[quote="D.Powell"][quote="KJ Styles"][quote="D.Powell"]

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

Dude, you're forgetting about Bob Pettit, Elvin Hayes, and Dave DeBusschere. Those three are easily better than Rodman and Oakley. Hell, I'd put Pettit in the Top 4-5.

KJ when did you ever see Bob Pettit play man??? or Elvin Hayes?? or Dave DeBusschere?? stop googling fuckin lists man.... Clyde Frazier or Earl The Pearl transcend the game so I could see you naming them at their respective positions but these other dudes and even Oscar Robinson?? Get The Fuck Out

your full of shit my dude and at least I'm telling you the truth.... Laughing My Ass Off

I watch ESPN classic, fool! Same way I never saw Muhammad Ali in his prime but watched his old fights on ESPN and even own some of them on DVD.

And if you don't know about Oscar Robertson (NOT Robinson) then your b-ball knowledge is lacking. Dude is constantly named among the greatest PG's of all time. Some say he's arguably better than Magic, but I give the edge to Magic because of his size and ability to play any position. I ain't full of shit old man, I just KNOW MY SHIT!

You call Charles Oakley a GOAT PF?? C'Mon Son! Fuck outta here with that bullshit. I'm a diehard Knicks fan as well but he ain't nowhere near the guys I mentioned. As a Knick fan, you SHOULD know about DeBusschere. He was a BEAST and played with Clyde Frazier and Willis Reed en route to the Knicks last two championships. I guess Alzheimers is catching up with you Powell Laughing My Ass Off

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 1:49 pm

[quote="KJ Styles"][quote="D.Powell"][quote="KJ Styles"]

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

Dude, you're forgetting about Bob Pettit, Elvin Hayes, and Dave DeBusschere. Those three are easily better than Rodman and Oakley. Hell, I'd put Pettit in the Top 4-5.

KJ when did you ever see Bob Pettit play man??? or Elvin Hayes?? or Dave DeBusschere?? stop googling fuckin lists man.... Clyde Frazier or Earl The Pearl transcend the game so I could see you naming them at their respective positions but these other dudes and even Oscar Robinson?? Get The Fuck Out

your full of shit my dude and at least I'm telling you the truth.... Laughing My Ass Off

I watch ESPN classic, fool! Same way I never saw Muhammad Ali in his prime but watched his old fights on ESPN and even own some of them on DVD.

And if you don't know about Oscar Robertson (NOT Robinson) then your b-ball knowledge is lacking. Dude is constantly named among the greatest PG's of all time. Some say he's arguably better than Magic, but I give the edge to Magic because of his size and ability to play any position. I ain't full of shit old man, I just KNOW MY SHIT!

You call Charles Oakley a GOAT PF?? C'Mon Son! Fuck outta here with that bullshit. I'm a diehard Knicks fan as well but he ain't nowhere near the guys I mentioned. As a Knick fan, you SHOULD know about DeBusschere. He was a BEAST and played with Clyde Frazier and Willis Reed en route to the Knicks last two championships. I guess Alzheimers is catching up with you Powell Laughing My Ass Off

nah what you do is let other people control your small ass brain and tell you who the best of all time should be....you let others dictate what dope is.....this goes for music too...as well as sports.....

Me....well I control all my own thoughts...fuck what others think...your a follower man...you have no original thought process and that's a damn shame.....lol

naming Bob fuckin Pettite...lmao...get the fuck outta here...hey KJ what years did he play in the NBA?? what was his career rebounding numbers?? what college did he go to?? answer these quickly or I know your a fuckin liar....Mr.Google Wiki...... Laughing My Ass Off

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 1:51 pm

Hurry Up KJ stop googling my dude..... Laughing My Ass Off

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Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 1:58 pm

[quote="D.Powell"][quote="KJ Styles"][quote="D.Powell"]

KJ Styles wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

Dude, you're forgetting about Bob Pettit, Elvin Hayes, and Dave DeBusschere. Those three are easily better than Rodman and Oakley. Hell, I'd put Pettit in the Top 4-5.

KJ when did you ever see Bob Pettit play man??? or Elvin Hayes?? or Dave DeBusschere?? stop googling fuckin lists man.... Clyde Frazier or Earl The Pearl transcend the game so I could see you naming them at their respective positions but these other dudes and even Oscar Robinson?? Get The Fuck Out

your full of shit my dude and at least I'm telling you the truth.... Laughing My Ass Off

I watch ESPN classic, fool! Same way I never saw Muhammad Ali in his prime but watched his old fights on ESPN and even own some of them on DVD.

And if you don't know about Oscar Robertson (NOT Robinson) then your b-ball knowledge is lacking. Dude is constantly named among the greatest PG's of all time. Some say he's arguably better than Magic, but I give the edge to Magic because of his size and ability to play any position. I ain't full of shit old man, I just KNOW MY SHIT!

You call Charles Oakley a GOAT PF?? C'Mon Son! Fuck outta here with that bullshit. I'm a diehard Knicks fan as well but he ain't nowhere near the guys I mentioned. As a Knick fan, you SHOULD know about DeBusschere. He was a BEAST and played with Clyde Frazier and Willis Reed en route to the Knicks last two championships. I guess Alzheimers is catching up with you Powell Laughing My Ass Off

nah what you do is let other people control your small ass brain and tell you who the best of all time should be....you let others dictate what dope is.....this goes for music too...as well as sports.....

Me....well I control all my own thoughts...fuck what others think...your a follower man...you have no original thought process and that's a damn shame.....lol

naming Bob fuckin Pettite...lmao...get the fuck outta here...hey KJ what years did he play in the NBA?? what was his career rebounding numbers?? what college did he go to?? answer these quickly or I know your a fuckin liar....Mr.Google Wiki...... Laughing My Ass Off

Eat a dick, Powell! I know of the dude from watching his games on ESPN classic. And to answer your question, He averaged 26 points and 16 rebounds a game during his career, assclown. He was also one of the few guys who with the St Louis Hawks, defeated Bill Russell's almighty Celtics who won 11 out of 13 championships. Checkmate, bitch!

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 2:00 pm

And Powell, the bullshit that's coming out of your mouth is irrelevant anyway because you named CHARLES OAKLEY as a GOAT PF. He's nowhere fucking near it. Hell, even Shawn Kemp would have been a more acceptable answer even though neither is making the Hall Of Fame. Go take your memory pills and pacemaker medicine and get off my dick!

Subject: Re: Your all time starting 5 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 2:01 pm

[quote="KJ Styles"][quote="D.Powell"][quote="KJ Styles"]

D.Powell wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

my list for PF's goes like this:

Karl Malone
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Kevin Garnett
Dennis Rodman
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin McHale
Charles Oakley

that's my top 8 POWER forwards of all-time....gritty...rebounding...defending....punch you in the mouth....scoring (for some of them anyway..lol) machines.....

Dude, you're forgetting about Bob Pettit, Elvin Hayes, and Dave DeBusschere. Those three are easily better than Rodman and Oakley. Hell, I'd put Pettit in the Top 4-5.

KJ when did you ever see Bob Pettit play man??? or Elvin Hayes?? or Dave DeBusschere?? stop googling fuckin lists man.... Clyde Frazier or Earl The Pearl transcend the game so I could see you naming them at their respective positions but these other dudes and even Oscar Robinson?? Get The Fuck Out

your full of shit my dude and at least I'm telling you the truth.... Laughing My Ass Off

I watch ESPN classic, fool! Same way I never saw Muhammad Ali in his prime but watched his old fights on ESPN and even own some of them on DVD.

And if you don't know about Oscar Robertson (NOT Robinson) then your b-ball knowledge is lacking. Dude is constantly named among the greatest PG's of all time. Some say he's arguably better than Magic, but I give the edge to Magic because of his size and ability to play any position. I ain't full of shit old man, I just KNOW MY SHIT!

You call Charles Oakley a GOAT PF?? C'Mon Son! Fuck outta here with that bullshit. I'm a diehard Knicks fan as well but he ain't nowhere near the guys I mentioned. As a Knick fan, you SHOULD know about DeBusschere. He was a BEAST and played with Clyde Frazier and Willis Reed en route to the Knicks last two championships. I guess Alzheimers is catching up with you Powell Laughing My Ass Off

nah what you do is let other people control your small ass brain and tell you who the best of all time should be....you let others dictate what dope is.....this goes for music too...as well as sports.....

Me....well I control all my own thoughts...fuck what others think...your a follower man...you have no original thought process and that's a damn shame.....lol

naming Bob fuckin Pettite...lmao...get the fuck outta here...hey KJ what years did he play in the NBA?? what was his career rebounding numbers?? what college did he go to?? answer these quickly or I know your a fuckin liar....Mr.Google Wiki...... Laughing My Ass Off

Eat a dick, Powell! I know of the dude from watching his games on ESPN classic. And to answer your question, He averaged 26 points and 16 rebounds a game during his career, assclown. He was also one of the few guys who with the St Louis Hawks, defeated Bill Russell's almighty Celtics who won 11 out of 13 championships. Checkmate, bitch!

you took too fuckin long mane....BULLSHIT....you don't have any of your own Bobby knowledge and that's okay cause I don't know shit about him either, but I'm MAN enough to admit that shit how about you lil KJ??? ya fuckin liar...lol

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