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PostSubject: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 7:57 pm

IMO, I would say it definitely is. There has been and there will be dope releases this year.

Previously Released Albums:

Mos Def - Ecstatic
Marco Polo/Torae - Double Barrel
DJ S-1 - Ground Original 2
Sadat X - Brand New Bein'
Alchemist - Chemical Warfare
Wu-Tang - Chamber Music
Method Man/Redman - Blackout 2
Eminem - Relapse
Reks - More Grey Hairs
Brother Ali - Truth is Here
UGK - 4 Life
Blame One - Chasing Days
Tame One - Acid Tab Vocab
Moka Only - Lowdown Suite 2 and Airport 3
J Dilla - Jay Stay Paid
P.O.S - Never Better
Camp Lo - Stone and Rob Caught On Tape
Tanya Morgan - Brooklynati

There's more.....feel free to add more

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Raekwon - OBFCL 2
MOP - Foundation
KRS-One/Buckshot - Survival Skills
La Coka Nostra - Brand You Can Trust
Royce 5'9" - Street Hop
Rakim - 7th Seal
Large Pro - Re-release of The LP
Slaughterhouse
DJ Spinna - Sonic Smash
Trife Diesel - Better Late Than Never
Chubb Rock/Wordsmith - Bridging The Gap
Method Man - Crystal Meth
Redman - Reggie Noble '09 1/2
New Dela (Rumored New Album)

Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:24 pm

I think it definitely is.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:24 pm

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IMO, I would say it definitely is. There has been and there will be dope releases this year.

Previously Released Albums:

Mos Def - Ecstatic - SUCKED
Marco Polo/Torae - Double Barrel - PRETTY DOPE
DJ S-1 - Ground Original 2 -HAVEN'T HEARD
Sadat X - Brand New Bein' - DISAPPOINTING
Alchemist - Chemical Warfare - GONNA DL
Wu-Tang - Chamber Music -SUCKED
Method Man/Redman - Blackout 2 - DOPE
Eminem - Relapse - CLASSIC
Reks - More Grey Hairs - SUCKED MAJOR LET DOWN
Brother Ali - Truth is Here -SUCKED
UGK - 4 Life - EH ONLY 4 HARDCORE UGK FANS
Blame One - Chasing Days -N/A PROBABLY GAY
Tame One - Acid Tab Vocab ^^
Moka Only - Lowdown Suite 2 and Airport 3 - MIGHT DL
J Dilla - Jay Stay Paid - NOT AN INSTRO OR DILLA FAN
P.O.S - Never Better - GAY
Camp Lo - Stone and Rob Caught On Tape - GAY
Tanya Morgan - Brooklynati - GAYEST

There's more.....feel free to add more

Upcoming Joints:

Raekwon - OBFCL 2
MOP - Foundation
KRS-One/Buckshot - Survival Skills
La Coka Nostra - Brand You Can Trust
Royce 5'9" - Street Hop
Rakim - 7th Seal
Large Pro - Re-release of The LP
Slaughterhouse
DJ Spinna - Sonic Smash
Trife Diesel - Better Late Than Never
Chubb Rock/Wordsmith - Bridging The Gap
Method Man - Crystal Meth
Redman - Reggie Noble '09 1/2
New Dela (Rumored New Album)

Thoughts?


Was it your purpose to select all the worst albums of the year so far? You left off Jada Kiss, Finale, Joe Budden, Dead Prez, U-God, Trae, Tech N9ne, Slim Thug, Saigon, Project Pat, MF DOOM, Mobb Deep, The Jacka, DJ Quik & Kurrupt, Cyne and B-Real.


You have even worse taste than Jason
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:26 pm

Yeah definitely should have added Budden, Tech and Quik and Kurupt
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:27 pm

and B-Real
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:40 pm

Yeah so far 2009 is on a damn good start, I just hope it finishes strong.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:41 pm

2009 is still one of the worst years ever, and I still take 2008 over it
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:46 pm

http://home-tapes.com/Hometapes/HAUS_HT027.html

^^^^

Pre-orders for Cyne's new album if anyone is interested.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:49 pm

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A175TPTHMNS7S4/ref=cm_pdp_lm_all

Good for underground lists, add in the mainstream and 2009 is one of the weakest years ever for 2000-PRES
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 8:54 pm

Marco Polo & Torae, Tanya Morgan, Blaq Poet, Saigon & Statik Selektah, Wu-Tang, K'Naan, Method Man & Redman, J Dilla, U-God, Trae, Mos Def, Grand Puba, MF Doom, Moka Only, Mr. Lif, Abstract Rude, Grand Analog, DJ Quik & Kurupt, Exile, Brother Ali, Killah Priest and Dead Prez all dropped albums i thought where good/great. I would say one of the better years already since 2000
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:00 pm

Steve wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A175TPTHMNS7S4/ref=cm_pdp_lm_all

Good for underground lists, add in the mainstream and 2009 is one of the weakest years ever for 2000-PRES

Yeah I agree. There have been some dope albums this year but also a number of duds and only one classic IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:20 pm

Damn Nor list is boooring!!!! That shit looks like a emo's heaven with flower power residue left on the toliet.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:25 pm

LMAO @ Kev
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:40 pm

beat album on there is Brains All Over the Streets. that new jada and ugk shits were boring and generic as fuck
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:45 pm

So Cory you actually checked out T KASH new album? I can see someone feeling that way about UGK and Jada if it's not their usual style.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:45 pm

LOL, you putting a Brother Ali EP as the #1 record of 2009 is ridiculous. There is no defending that it's just plain stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:47 pm

None of them are in order and Bro Ali may not be number one anymore I wrote that when it first dropped.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:48 pm

KRob86 wrote:
So Cory you actually checked out T KASH new album? I can see someone feeling that way about UGK and Jada if it's not their usual style.

i own both his albums. im a big fan of paris, have been for years thats how i heard about t kash


this is my list. not in exact order but close

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/R396YE889X3R0Q/ref=cm_pdp_lm_title_1#height=183
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:50 pm

oh okay...im just really surprised given your listening tastes that you like brother ali so much
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:51 pm

2009 so far has been about 3 stars overall, it has had some decent releases but let's not over-do it's worth, it's been average to slightly below average...they say the underground will save hip-hop...I say then we are in serious trouble...lol

but overall '09 is about 3 stars IMO, meaning it hasn't been completely horrible but it can still use major improvement
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:55 pm

yeah i agree 10000% powell
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 9:59 pm

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KRob86 wrote:
So Cory you actually checked out T KASH new album? I can see someone feeling that way about UGK and Jada if it's not their usual style.

i own both his albums. im a big fan of paris, have been for years thats how i heard about t kash


this is my list. not in exact order but close

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/R396YE889X3R0Q/ref=cm_pdp_lm_title_1#height=183

Thats a nice list i'm actually surprised by some of the albums, good look. Guess I need to stop sleepin on Double Barrel and I 4got to add Puba to my list, that one bangs.

I can't find Blaq Poet at any store did y'all order it offline or just download?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:00 pm

i dled it, mine is on the way in the mail
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:00 pm

Damn I gotta do a list soon.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:00 pm

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Cory wrote:
KRob86 wrote:
So Cory you actually checked out T KASH new album? I can see someone feeling that way about UGK and Jada if it's not their usual style.

i own both his albums. im a big fan of paris, have been for years thats how i heard about t kash


this is my list. not in exact order but close

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/R396YE889X3R0Q/ref=cm_pdp_lm_title_1#height=183

Thats a nice list i'm actually surprised by some of the albums, good look. Guess I need to stop sleepin on Double Barrel and I 4got to add Puba to my list, that one bangs.

I can't find Blaq Poet at any store did y'all order it offline or just download?


i dont have a copy yet, just downloaded it. it should be a little lower on the list. I heard they where having distribution problems and its not gonna be in stores for a while, not sure if its true.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:05 pm

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2009 so far has been about 3 stars overall, it has had some decent releases but let's not over-do it's worth, it's been average to slightly below average...they say the underground will save hip-hop...I say then we are in serious trouble...lol

but overall '09 is about 3 stars IMO, meaning it hasn't been completely horrible but it can still use major improvement

Powell can you please list all the albums you have heard for this year?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:10 pm

Everybody that thinks this isn't a dope year isn't listening hard enough or is a straight hater.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:12 pm

anyone with a sense of history is able to accurately classify this year...
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:18 pm

Exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 10:53 pm

its been aright but im expecting the 2nd half to carry it
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 11:32 pm

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D.Powell wrote:
2009 so far has been about 3 stars overall, it has had some decent releases but let's not over-do it's worth, it's been average to slightly below average...they say the underground will save hip-hop...I say then we are in serious trouble...lol

but overall '09 is about 3 stars IMO, meaning it hasn't been completely horrible but it can still use major improvement

Powell can you please list all the albums you have heard for this year?

these are the ones I own Kev:
Wu-Tang-Chamber Music
Sadat X-Brand New Bein'
Marco Polo/Torae-Double Barrel
Tanya Morgan-Brooklynati
Jadakiss-The Last Kiss
Red And Meth-Blackout 2
Mobb Deep-The Safe Is Cracked
UGK-UGK For Life
Guru-8.0 Lost And Found
Eminem-Relapse
Joe Buddens-Padded Room
X-Clan-Mainstream Outlawz
Grand Puba-Retroactive
Busta Rhymes-Back On My Bullshit


so that's what I've picked up so far man, and I may be missing a few here and there I have to re-check but like I said overall this year so far is 3 stars man, it's not horrible but it still needs some work and not one of those listed above is an all-time 5 star classic at least not for me....

2009 is 3 stars man


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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 11:34 pm

is the Sadat X good?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Wed 08 Jul 2009, 11:35 pm

It's 3.5 stars for me Slang!
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 1:02 am

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It's 3.5 stars for me Slang!

powell, how many post 2000 all time 5 star classics have you heard. i maybe have 20 at the most, and a good number of them are from 2000-2002. right now compared to any year between 1985-1998 this year sucks, but compared the the crap in the past 6 years so far i would say we are doing alright. i mean thats what this topic is about, not how this year is compared to all other, but post 2000
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 1:42 am

I mean if you count all the 1-4 star albums people on this forum have claimed to be 5 stars just because they are old then yeah... 2009 will never compare...not until 15 years from now when all these people are old and will declaring everything released in 2009 was 5 star classic.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 1:46 am

Not mentioned yet:

Big Tone - The Code Of Silence
AP.9 - I Am Legend
Bavgate - Billy Moe
A-Wax - The Street Album
Beeda Weeda - Breath Of Fresh Air
Young Smacka - Eagles Fly Alone
Young Sav - Just A Touch Of Game
Young Dru - Block Star
Rydah J. Klyde - Rated R
Reek Daddy - Super Thug
PSD - A Star Iz Born
Bueno - Maloof Money
Blame One - Days Chasing Days
The Jacka - Tear Gas
J-Diggs - JDiggs.com
G-Stack - Dr. Purp Thumb
Lee Majors - The $ix Million Dollar Man
Kaz Kyzah - The Gofessional 2
Trae - The Diary
Taj-He-Spitz - Live Fast Die Young
Suga Free - Hi Power Pimpin'
Stevie Joe - Swag It and Bag It
Shady Nate - The Bo-Fessional
Ya Boy - Rock Star Music & Kush 2009
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 1:48 am

My bad I see Trae & Blame One were mentioned.
Edit: The Jacka also.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 9:58 am

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I mean if you count all the 1-4 star albums people on this forum have claimed to be 5 stars just because they are old then yeah... 2009 will never compare...not until 15 years from now when all these people are old and will declaring everything released in 2009 was 5 star classic.


I doubt that happens SRP..lol

2009 has no 5 star classics as it stands right now, maybe that will change as the year goes on but right now the shit is worth 3 stars at the most...

I think what you need to do is go back and re-visit some 1988 or 1989 or 1990 or 1991 material and tell me if you can recognize all the actual 5 star material...Now I know you have bad tastes in music so this may be revealed when you are listening but anybody with two ears can easily hear the difference between now and then....THE GOLDEN AGES BABY BUBBA, there is no comparison! lol
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 10:04 am

Powell I know as well as you do there is no point in comparing post 2000 era to the golden eras of the 90' and 80's. Maybe a few of your artist let you down so far this year but I have been hearing some good music, I have been extra selective of what I purchased this year and honestly I only bought one semi average album and that was Project Pat. The rest have been above average for me.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 10:34 am

KRob86 wrote:
Powell I know as well as you do there is no point in comparing post 2000 era to the golden eras of the 90' and 80's. Maybe a few of your artist let you down so far this year but I have been hearing some good music, I have been extra selective of what I purchased this year and honestly I only bought one semi average album and that was Project Pat. The rest have been above average for me.

I said I've heard some decent stuff man, off my list most of it is average to above so these artists are trying, but I still say the year overall IMO is 3 stars which is about average man
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 11:24 am

You'll never be 20 again. No matter what the music sounds like.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 12:52 pm

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Damn Nor list is boooring!!!! That shit looks like a emo's heaven with flower power residue left on the toliet.

This coming from someone with Brother Ali at the top of their list. He'd fall under your flower power umbrella too, Kev... lol How much weight should I put behind your sentiments when you have Asher Roth as one of your top albums while J Dilla is noticeably absent? Every last album on my list is easily better than that Asher Roth album.

Anyway, Read it again:

"Strictly proper studio releases that I've heard. If it isn't on the list, I haven't heard it, so stay tuned for updates as I come across more material."

That means I haven't heard many. I simply haven't been checking for '09 releases. Rap music is getting more and more boring and I simply haven't heard too many albums that have moved me. If I update my list right now, only two albums would go up (Red & Meth and Finale) because that's all I've checked for that managed to leave an impression...

How many albums on my list have you actually heard? You've heard at least 2 of them because they made their way onto your list as well... lol Again, I guess there's some "flower power" going on with your list as well...

Oh, and define "flower power" because I doubt Eminem, Mr. Lif, DJ Quik, or Kurupt would agree with you.

I haven't updated mine in a month, yours was updated yesterday and it still...

You know what...nevermind.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 1:19 pm

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Damn Nor list is boooring!!!! That shit looks like a emo's heaven with flower power residue left on the toliet.

This coming from someone with Brother Ali at the top of their list. He'd fall under your flower power umbrella too, Kev... lol How much weight should I put behind your sentiments when you have Asher Roth as one of your top albums while J Dilla is noticeably absent? Every last album on my list is easily better than that Asher Roth album.

Anyway, Read it again:

"Strictly proper studio releases that I've heard. If it isn't on the list, I haven't heard it, so stay tuned for updates as I come across more material."

That means I haven't heard many. I simply haven't been checking for '09 releases. Rap music is getting more and more boring and I simply haven't heard too many albums that have moved me. If I update my list right now, only two albums would go up (Red & Meth and Finale) because that's all I've checked for that managed to leave an impression...

How many albums on my list have you actually heard? You've heard at least 2 of them because they made their way onto your list as well... lol Again, I guess there's some "flower power" going on with your list as well...

Oh, and define "flower power" because I doubt Eminem, Mr. Lif, DJ Quik, or Kurupt would agree with you.

I haven't updated mine in a month, yours was updated yesterday and it still...

You know what...nevermind.

Bro Ali is not flower power to me because he raps with some aggression and soul. As far as rap getting boring maybe step out of your comfort zone and get some this gansta shit in your system. I know you are "above" that but all that soft sweet flower power music will make you bored. I respect your knowledge and taste in music but we just have different taste and views. I like some flower power rap just like I know you like some hardcore rap we just perefer one over the other more. I was just busting your balls, no hard feelings. I truly did find the list boring just like i'm sure mine did not move you like that.

I have heard 6 albums off you list and have no passion to hear the others because I already have heard some the work of the other 5.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 1:46 pm

All of you guys forgot the best hip hop album of the year so far, Gutter Tactics by Dalek. I'm not kidding.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 2:09 pm

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You'll never be 20 again. No matter what the music sounds like.


And you'll never molest kids under 5 again if I can help it you fruitcake....lol

I've already reported your sleazy ass to the local authorities and informed them that you have the habit of going under multiple names from your dog's to cartoon characters to impersonating a female...they know all about ya "kid" Joe so if I were you I'd watch my ass.....a word to the wise is sufficient....
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 2:56 pm

It's another good year, I don't think it stands out as so much better than other recent years.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 4:21 pm

Asher Roth is straight garbage
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 4:25 pm

Slang Editorial wrote:
Asher Roth is straight garbage

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 seems to be one of the better years in post 2000 hip hop   Thu 09 Jul 2009, 6:16 pm

Slang Editorial wrote:
Asher Roth is straight garbage

i like the energy on that album. asher does not have skill imo, but there are multiple reasons for listening to music. a lot of the albums mentioned in this thread are great for listening to on your head phones at home or traveling when you can pay close attention to what your listening to. but when im going out with my friends i want something you can just play with lots of energy, most the albums listed here would put you to sleep rather then get your in a good mood.
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