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PostSubject: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 11:37 am

Let's discuss instances where, in our opinions of course, an artist or group's 2nd and/or 3rd albums were better than their first.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 11:54 am

UGK
Outkast (arguably)
ATCQ (arguably)
C-Bo
Kurupt
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E-40
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 11:55 am

Slang Editorial wrote:
UGK
Outkast (arguably)
ATCQ (arguably)
C-Bo
Kurupt
Gza
E-40
Bone Thugs
Esham
Canibus
Jedi Mind Tricks
Mobb Deep
MOP

I cosign on Mobb Deep (and yeah I'm recognizing Juvenile Hell this time, lol), MOP, BTNH, UGK, and ATCQ.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 11:57 am

Wayne wrote:
Slang Editorial wrote:
UGK
Outkast (arguably)
ATCQ (arguably)
C-Bo
Kurupt
Gza
E-40
Bone Thugs
Esham
Canibus
Jedi Mind Tricks
Mobb Deep
MOP

I cosign on Mobb Deep (and yeah I'm recognizing Juvenile Hell this time, lol), MOP, BTNH, UGK, and ATCQ.

lol not Gza? you're the one person that likes Words From the Genius better than LS? haha
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 11:59 am

Slang Editorial wrote:
Wayne wrote:
Slang Editorial wrote:
UGK
Outkast (arguably)
ATCQ (arguably)
C-Bo
Kurupt
Gza
E-40
Bone Thugs
Esham
Canibus
Jedi Mind Tricks
Mobb Deep
MOP

I cosign on Mobb Deep (and yeah I'm recognizing Juvenile Hell this time, lol), MOP, BTNH, UGK, and ATCQ.

lol not Gza? you're the one person that likes Words From the Genius better than LS? haha

OH NOOOOOO, lol. I totally forgot about WFTG, and in NO WAY is that album better than LS.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 12:09 pm

This is another good choice:

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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 12:44 pm

Gang Starr certainly fits the bill.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 1:17 pm

Myestro wrote:
Gang Starr certainly fits the bill.

Yes indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 1:56 pm

Geto Boys and Scarface both fit also, in my opinion. I'm sure there are some that would disagree.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 1:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 3:09 pm

Co sign Geto Boys. That 1st album did have Face or Willie D on it. They have topped that album easily.

Don't agree with Face but I can see semi see it being debatable.

Co sign Ghostface, UGK, Gza, Mobb Deep, Outkast,and some others.

Gotta add:

Spice 1
DJ Quik
BDP
Poison Clan
T.I.
Ludacris
Big Daddy Kane
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 3:15 pm

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Geto Boys and Scarface both fit also, in my opinion. I'm sure there are some that would disagree.

I'm one of those that would disagree with the Scarface selection. The World Is Yours is a tight album, but not on the level of Mr. Scarface Is Back.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 3:18 pm

TicNitty706 wrote:
Co sign Geto Boys. That 1st album did have Face or Willie D on it. They have topped that album easily.

Don't agree with Face but I can see semi see it being debatable.

Co sign Ghostface, UGK, Gza, Mobb Deep, Outkast,and some others.

Gotta add:

Spice 1
DJ Quik
BDP
Poison Clan
T.I.
Ludacris
Big Daddy Kane

Cosign on Luda, T.I., BDP, and possibly Ghostface.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 4:17 pm

Public Enemy
Gangstarr
A Tribe Called Quest
Ice Cube
Nice And Smooth
Mobb Deep
Heavy D And The Boyz
The Roots
Kool G Rap And Polo
Masta Ace
The Lox


too name a few.......


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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 4:18 pm

D.Powell wrote:
Public Enemy
Gangstarr
A Tribe Called Quest
Ice Cube
Nice And Smooth
Mobb Deep
Heavy D And The Boyz
The Roots
Kool G Rap And Polo
Masta Ace


too name a few.......

Oh yeah, Ice Cube, G Rap, Roots, and Heavy D & The Boyz are also good picks.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 4:19 pm

I feel Eminem and Fat Joe are two additional good picks also.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 4:20 pm

Cube is a damn good pick.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

TicNitty706 wrote:
Cube is a damn good pick.

Definitely. AMW is classic material, but Death Certificate is the superior of the two.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 5:26 pm

Indeed/ I like Predator better than AMW, also
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 6:25 pm

whole heartedly disagree with Ghostface and Scarface
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 8:06 pm

I can see that for Ghostface via Supreme Clientele. IM & SC are neck and neck for me.
I was wondering why folks were co-signing GZA until I remembered WFTG (that was so disappointing).
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 8:17 pm

TheHazardous wrote:
IM & SC are neck and neck for me.

Cosign.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 8:39 pm

Tribe
UGK
GZA
Mobb Deep
Gang Starr

BDP's best album is Criminal Minded...you all need to recognize.....lol
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 9:08 pm

Highsmith wrote:
Tribe
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GZA
Mobb Deep
Gang Starr

BDP's best album is Criminal Minded...you all need to recognize.....lol

I think you just gave me an idea for another thread (soon too, lol), Criminal Minded vs. By All Means Necessary.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 9:55 pm

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Indeed/ I like Predator better than AMW, also

Me too.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 10:16 pm

Organized Konfusion is another pick.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSat 24 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

....and Amerikka's Most Wanted smashes Predator like all of the athletes did Kim Kardashian...lls
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSun 25 Sep 2011, 10:46 am

i agree, Predator doesnt do that much for me honestly, compared to his first 2
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeSun 25 Sep 2011, 12:34 pm

Highsmith wrote:
Amerikka's Most Wanted smashes Predator

Complete cosign.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 11:53 am

T.I. and Luda's first albums were the best easily to me. Eat a bag o dicks.

That's assuming of course you are counting I'm Serious and Back For The First Time as their debut albums.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 12:19 pm

Whoa whoa whoa CANIBUS??? C Tru Hollywood Story? Are you serious bro? And you're disagreeing on SCARFACE? Smdh...
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 12:31 pm

Here's a few that Slang didn't mention

Public Enemy (mentioned by Wayne)
Gangstarr (mentioned by Mystero)
The Roots
NWA (remember, NWA & The Posse was their official debut)
Common
Xzibit
T.I.
Cunninlynguists
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 4:29 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
Here's a few that Slang didn't mention

Public Enemy (mentioned by Wayne)
Gangstarr (mentioned by Mystero)
The Roots
NWA (remember, NWA & The Posse was their official debut)
Common
Xzibit
T.I.
Cunninlynguists
Sheek Louch

Oh yeah, N.W.A., Xzibit, Common, and Sheek Louch are all good picks. I would also include Jadakiss.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 10:51 pm

Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Here's a few that Slang didn't mention

Public Enemy (mentioned by Wayne)
Gangstarr (mentioned by Mystero)
The Roots
NWA (remember, NWA & The Posse was their official debut)
Common
Xzibit
T.I.
Cunninlynguists
Sheek Louch

Oh yeah, N.W.A., Xzibit, Common, and Sheek Louch are all good picks. I would also include Jadakiss.

Nah, I liked Kiss The Game Goodbye much more than The Last Kiss.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 10:53 pm

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Co sign Geto Boys. That 1st album did have Face or Willie D on it. They have topped that album easily.

Don't agree with Face but I can see semi see it being debatable.

Co sign Ghostface, UGK, Gza, Mobb Deep, Outkast,and some others.

Gotta add:

Spice 1
DJ Quik
BDP
Poison Clan
T.I.
Ludacris
Big Daddy Kane

I don't agree with BDP, Kane, or Luda.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 10:55 pm

D.Powell wrote:
Public Enemy
Gangstarr
A Tribe Called Quest
Ice Cube
Nice And Smooth
Mobb Deep
Heavy D And The Boyz
The Roots
Kool G Rap And Polo
Masta Ace
The Lox


too name a few.......

Don't agree with Cube, G Rap, or Ace. Their first albums are their best IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 11:05 pm

Ice-T is another good pick

I disagree with Em, Ghost, and Face though. Bulletproof Wallets is my least fav Ghost album.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 4:28 pm

IMO

Del (even including Future Development)
The Beatnuts (whether or not you're counting the Intoxicated Demons EP)
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 5:46 pm

Myestro wrote:
IMO

Del (even including Future Development)
The Beatnuts (whether or not you're counting the Intoxicated Demons EP)

I disagree with Del. I Wish My Brother George Was Here is his best album IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 10:03 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Here's a few that Slang didn't mention

Public Enemy (mentioned by Wayne)
Gangstarr (mentioned by Mystero)
The Roots
NWA (remember, NWA & The Posse was their official debut)
Common
Xzibit
T.I.
Cunninlynguists
Sheek Louch

Oh yeah, N.W.A., Xzibit, Common, and Sheek Louch are all good picks. I would also include Jadakiss.

Nah, I liked Kiss The Game Goodbye much more than The Last Kiss.

On this one I was referring to Kiss Of Death. I like that one a little more than KTGG.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 10:04 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
D.Powell wrote:
Public Enemy
Gangstarr
A Tribe Called Quest
Ice Cube
Nice And Smooth
Mobb Deep
Heavy D And The Boyz
The Roots
Kool G Rap And Polo
Masta Ace
The Lox


too name a few.......

Don't agree with Cube, G Rap, or Ace. Their first albums are their best IMO.

Regarding G Rap KJ, you think Road To The Riches is better than Live And Let Die?
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
D.Powell wrote:
Public Enemy
Gangstarr
A Tribe Called Quest
Ice Cube
Nice And Smooth
Mobb Deep
Heavy D And The Boyz
The Roots
Kool G Rap And Polo
Masta Ace
The Lox


too name a few.......

Don't agree with Cube, G Rap, or Ace. Their first albums are their best IMO.

Regarding G Rap KJ, you think Road To The Riches is better than Live And Let Die?

Yes I do, Wayne. Not by a large margin but I do feel that RTTR has more standouts. Both are classics though, as is Wanted Dead or Alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Here's a few that Slang didn't mention

Public Enemy (mentioned by Wayne)
Gangstarr (mentioned by Mystero)
The Roots
NWA (remember, NWA & The Posse was their official debut)
Common
Xzibit
T.I.
Cunninlynguists
Sheek Louch

Oh yeah, N.W.A., Xzibit, Common, and Sheek Louch are all good picks. I would also include Jadakiss.

Nah, I liked Kiss The Game Goodbye much more than The Last Kiss.

On this one I was referring to Kiss Of Death. I like that one a little more than KTGG.

Understandable, but you asked which artists 2nd and 3rd albums are better than their 1st. I could see the case for Kiss Of Death, but not for The Last Kiss.
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PostSubject: Re: Two & Three   Two & Three Icon_minitimeTue 27 Sep 2011, 10:33 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Wayne wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Here's a few that Slang didn't mention

Public Enemy (mentioned by Wayne)
Gangstarr (mentioned by Mystero)
The Roots
NWA (remember, NWA & The Posse was their official debut)
Common
Xzibit
T.I.
Cunninlynguists
Sheek Louch

Oh yeah, N.W.A., Xzibit, Common, and Sheek Louch are all good picks. I would also include Jadakiss.

Nah, I liked Kiss The Game Goodbye much more than The Last Kiss.

On this one I was referring to Kiss Of Death. I like that one a little more than KTGG.

Understandable, but you asked which artists 2nd and 3rd albums are better than their 1st. I could see the case for Kiss Of Death, but not for The Last Kiss.

he said 2nd AND/OR 3rd, not 2nd and 3rd, huge huge huge difference
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