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PostSubject: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 8:16 pm

In your opinion, which artists and/or groups have stellar discographies but no 5 star classics?
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 8:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:00 pm

K-Rino
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BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)



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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:18 pm

UGK???
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:46 pm

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UGK???

Yeah they do not have a 5 star album to me. They have two personal classics in my book but I would not throw 5 stars out there too quick. Of course its debatable.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 11:19 pm

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K-Rino
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BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)



KRS and Quest have several classics. Em's first two albums are classics, Talib's debut is a classic, and the Black Star album is a classic. Also, while I'm not the biggest UGK fan in the world, I'd say Ridin Dirty is a classic.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Mon 31 Oct 2011, 11:21 pm

Surprised me on a lot of those picks, Kev.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 2:34 am

Kev, you've been smoking some headbanger boogie over there dude.....lol

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 12:57 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
K-Rino
Too Short
BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)



KRS and Quest have several classics. Em's first two albums are classics, Talib's debut is a classic, and the Black Star album is a classic. Also, while I'm not the biggest UGK fan in the world, I'd say Ridin Dirty is a classic.

Ah okay thank you for that info. But in my rating book classic does not always equal 5 stars.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 1:07 pm

TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
K-Rino
Too Short
BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)

KRS and Quest have several classics. Em's first two albums are classics, Talib's debut is a classic, and the Black Star album is a classic. Also, while I'm not the biggest UGK fan in the world, I'd say Ridin Dirty is a classic.

Ah okay thank you for that info. But in my rating book classic does not always equal 5 stars.

So do you consider some albums that are less than 5 stars as classics?
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 5:42 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
K-Rino
Too Short
BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)

KRS and Quest have several classics. Em's first two albums are classics, Talib's debut is a classic, and the Black Star album is a classic. Also, while I'm not the biggest UGK fan in the world, I'd say Ridin Dirty is a classic.

Ah okay thank you for that info. But in my rating book classic does not always equal 5 stars.

So do you consider some albums that are less than 5 stars as classics?

Yeah plenty of them. 5 stars means perfect and there are not many perfect albums out there. But I luv plenty of albums that I know are not perfect but they are classics to me. I try to stay away from the 5 star rating because I am never that confident to put that out there for too many albums.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 5:58 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 9:08 pm

TicNitty706 wrote:
K-Rino
Too Short
BDP/KRS OneThe Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)



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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 10:28 pm

TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
K-Rino
Too Short
BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)

KRS and Quest have several classics. Em's first two albums are classics, Talib's debut is a classic, and the Black Star album is a classic. Also, while I'm not the biggest UGK fan in the world, I'd say Ridin Dirty is a classic.

Ah okay thank you for that info. But in my rating book classic does not always equal 5 stars.

So do you consider some albums that are less than 5 stars as classics?

Yeah plenty of them. 5 stars means perfect and there are not many perfect albums out there. But I luv plenty of albums that I know are not perfect but they are classics to me. I try to stay away from the 5 star rating because I am never that confident to put that out there for too many albums.

i definitely agree with you there, but definitely disagree about UGK lol
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Tue 01 Nov 2011, 10:33 pm

Laced With Slang wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
K-Rino
Too Short
BDP/KRS One
The Game
Z-Ro
T.I.
WC
UGK
Dayton Family
A Tribe Called Quest
Paris
Talib Kweli
Eminem (debatable)
Spice 1 (debatable)

KRS and Quest have several classics. Em's first two albums are classics, Talib's debut is a classic, and the Black Star album is a classic. Also, while I'm not the biggest UGK fan in the world, I'd say Ridin Dirty is a classic.

Ah okay thank you for that info. But in my rating book classic does not always equal 5 stars.

So do you consider some albums that are less than 5 stars as classics?

Yeah plenty of them. 5 stars means perfect and there are not many perfect albums out there. But I luv plenty of albums that I know are not perfect but they are classics to me. I try to stay away from the 5 star rating because I am never that confident to put that out there for too many albums.

i definitely agree with you there, but definitely disagree about UGK lol

I disagree about UGK also.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:57 am

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Yeah plenty of them. 5 stars means perfect and there are not many perfect albums out there. But I luv plenty of albums that I know are not perfect but they are classics to me. I try to stay away from the 5 star rating because I am never that confident to put that out there for too many albums.

That's kind of an interesting way of looking at it. I think sometimes I see it the other way. I elevate the almost perfect albums to a 5 star rating if I feel it deserves it overall. Plus certain albums just have an impact or impression that they make that elevates their rating. And then sometimes albums have dope songs all the way through and are still not classics. Idk, it's all POV shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:00 pm

And to add to the discussion:

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:36 pm

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Yeah plenty of them. 5 stars means perfect and there are not many perfect albums out there. But I luv plenty of albums that I know are not perfect but they are classics to me. I try to stay away from the 5 star rating because I am never that confident to put that out there for too many albums.

That's kind of an interesting way of looking at it. I think sometimes I see it the other way. I elevate the almost perfect albums to a 5 star rating if I feel it deserves it overall. Plus certain albums just have an impact or impression that they make that elevates their rating. And then sometimes albums have dope songs all the way through and are still not classics. Idk, it's all POV shit.

Yeah it depends. Really I think rating albums should only be used to give someone an idea of the quality of the record. Because once you start rating them number wise str8 off personal connection things can get twisted. Really just enjoy the music. And the replay value and personal vibe is more valuable and a better measureable sign than a number rating.

As far as the UGK thing. Of course its debatable and I would not debate or argue w/ anyone for rating Ridin Dirty or Super Tight 5 stars. Hell I probably have said they were 5 stars myself before. They both rank very high with me. Thats why I just prefer the word classic over 5 stars.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:50 pm

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As far as the UGK thing. Of course its debatable and I would not debate or argue w/ anyone for rating Ridin Dirty or Super Tight 5 stars. Hell I probably have said they were 5 stars myself before. They both rank very high with me. Thats why I just prefer the word classic over 5 stars.

definitely agree with that. For example, Ghetto D is a classic hip hop album but that is by no means a 5 star album to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 3:19 pm

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And to add to the discussion:

Ludacris

Yeah I'd have to agree with you on Luda. His first two albums are near classics but have a couple skip tracks so they fall a little short of 5 stars.

And Kev is still on crack....ATCQ and KRS/BDP have somewhere between 6 and 9 classics when you add the two acts up.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 5:31 pm

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And to add to the discussion:

Ludacris

Yeah I'd have to agree with you on Luda. His first two albums are near classics but have a couple skip tracks so they fall a little short of 5 stars.

And Kev is still on crack....ATCQ and KRS/BDP have somewhere between 6 and 9 classics when you add the two acts up.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 6:22 pm

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Wanduras wrote:
And to add to the discussion:

Ludacris

Yeah I'd have to agree with you on Luda. His first two albums are near classics but have a couple skip tracks so they fall a little short of 5 stars.

And Kev is still on crack....ATCQ and KRS/BDP have somewhere between 6 and 9 classics when you add the two acts up.

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Just tellin it like it is. Tribe's first three albums are widely considered classics, and Criminal Minded, BAMN, and Boom Bap are widely considered classics by KRS so that's 6 right there.

Ghetto Music, Edutainment, and his self titled album can be argued as classics too. Personally they're classics to me. I bet you have a TON of Scarface/Geto Boys albums rated as classics so GTFOH with that hypocritical BS attitude.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 6:54 pm

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Wanduras wrote:
And to add to the discussion:

Ludacris

Yeah I'd have to agree with you on Luda. His first two albums are near classics but have a couple skip tracks so they fall a little short of 5 stars.

And Kev is still on crack....ATCQ and KRS/BDP have somewhere between 6 and 9 classics when you add the two acts up.

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Just tellin it like it is. Tribe's first three albums are widely considered classics, and Criminal Minded, BAMN, and Boom Bap are widely considered classics by KRS so that's 6 right there.

Ghetto Music, Edutainment, and his self titled album can be argued as classics too. Personally they're classics to me. I bet you have a TON of Scarface/Geto Boys albums rated as classics so GTFOH with that hypocritical BS attitude.

Well remember I do not always equate classic with 5 stars. And while GB & Face do have plenty of classics in my book they do not have "tons" of 5 star albums.

Face- 4 classics and I can see 2 of them being 5 stars.
Geto Boys- 4 classics but only 1 maybe 2 five star albums.

But once again thats even debatable. 5 stars have no weigh on classic status for me.

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 6:59 pm

TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Wanduras wrote:
And to add to the discussion:

Ludacris

Yeah I'd have to agree with you on Luda. His first two albums are near classics but have a couple skip tracks so they fall a little short of 5 stars.

And Kev is still on crack....ATCQ and KRS/BDP have somewhere between 6 and 9 classics when you add the two acts up.

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Just tellin it like it is. Tribe's first three albums are widely considered classics, and Criminal Minded, BAMN, and Boom Bap are widely considered classics by KRS so that's 6 right there.

Ghetto Music, Edutainment, and his self titled album can be argued as classics too. Personally they're classics to me. I bet you have a TON of Scarface/Geto Boys albums rated as classics so GTFOH with that hypocritical BS attitude.

Well remember I do not always equate classic with 5 stars. And while GB & Face do have plenty of classics in my book they do not have "tons" of 5 star albums.

Face- 4 classics and I can see 2 of them being 5 stars.
Geto Boys- 4 classics but only 1 maybe 2 five star albums.

But once again thats even debatable. 5 stars have no weigh on classic status for me.

Well if that's the case, then you honestly can't clown me for feeling that KRS and ATCQ have mad classics. Most people who are fans of them would say the same. Face is another guy with multiple classics I agree, but the same can be said for Kris and Quest.
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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 7:16 pm

KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
TicNitty706 wrote:
KJ Styles wrote:
Wanduras wrote:
And to add to the discussion:

Ludacris

Yeah I'd have to agree with you on Luda. His first two albums are near classics but have a couple skip tracks so they fall a little short of 5 stars.

And Kev is still on crack....ATCQ and KRS/BDP have somewhere between 6 and 9 classics when you add the two acts up.

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Just tellin it like it is. Tribe's first three albums are widely considered classics, and Criminal Minded, BAMN, and Boom Bap are widely considered classics by KRS so that's 6 right there.

Ghetto Music, Edutainment, and his self titled album can be argued as classics too. Personally they're classics to me. I bet you have a TON of Scarface/Geto Boys albums rated as classics so GTFOH with that hypocritical BS attitude.

Well remember I do not always equate classic with 5 stars. And while GB & Face do have plenty of classics in my book they do not have "tons" of 5 star albums.

Face- 4 classics and I can see 2 of them being 5 stars.
Geto Boys- 4 classics but only 1 maybe 2 five star albums.

But once again thats even debatable. 5 stars have no weigh on classic status for me.

Well if that's the case, then you honestly can't clown me for feeling that KRS and ATCQ have mad classics. Most people who are fans of them would say the same. Face is another guy with multiple classics I agree, but the same can be said for Kris and Quest.

Yeah I have no problem with you saying they have that many classics I just thought you felt classic equals 5 stars in your book. So I was clowning on that. No way in fizzy womack do they have that many 5 star albums (objectively of course).

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PostSubject: Re: Discographies & the 5 star rating   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 7:57 pm

They objectively have no 5 star albums.

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