Joe Paterno

So I wasn't really a fan one or another of the man, but his fall from grace is pretty dramatic. What do you guys think? He just got fired which to me was the right thing to do. What about his reputation? You guys think it was all a front, or did he let his power get the best of him in the later years?

I agree that firing him was the right choice. While he has been great for college football, the fact that he knew what was going on with those kids and his assistant coach and he did nothing about it is unacceptable. Damn near anybody else would have been fired immediately. This definitely tarnishes his legacy, and that's sad because while I've never been a Penn State fan, I've always respected him as a coach. I'm sure that he has regrets now and I don't think his reputation was a front, but what's done is done and all he can do at this point is apologize.

When i read the indictment, i knew anyone in a position of power at Penn State would be fucked. Right or wrong, some head heads had to roll after that shit came out. I try to reserve judgement, but the pattern was far too consistent from victim to victim for there not to be some foul shit going on. I understand Paterno didn't do anything illegal, but he also only did the minimum required as well. It's sad to see anyone go out like this, but i'd be lying if i said i cared.

Fuck'em. When you can turn the blind eye to something like that makes me wonder who's dick he was sucking. These freaky old white men are a trip.

LOL @ the Penn State riots!

Fuck Joe Paterno.....as the parent of a 6 year son, I feel both him and Sandusky deserve to have both their dick and balls cut off....

as a matter of fact fuck Penn State as an entire school.....they put big time college football ($$$$) over kids being abused...and now they will all live in infamy forever because of it, this will affect any future recruiting efforts...any bowl invitations, any gameday t.v. coverage, etc, etc....so the obsession with money and greed wound up fuckin' them all to smithereens as a result, which is just punishment....God is watching!

Sandusky is going to be abused whenever it is that he will enter prison...and Paterno and those other fools will never have much of a so called "legacy" to ever speak of....God Bless all the victims in this.....

Paterno's mistake was he trusted the higher ups to do the right thing. He reported it but there was no follow through on their part. The consistent mistake of the witnesses of this mess is they turned to internal review. People forget the purpose of campus authority is to protect the school and that doesn't necessarily translate into protect the students. All sorts of fucked up shit happens on college campuses that never sees the light of day. They train their staff to report to them first about any questionable manner. This mess is systemic. Firing Paterno and the Prez won't mean shit if they don't reevaluate how they deal with problems.

And why didn't the Graduate Assistant go to the cops himself? This whole situation just seems like one giant clusterfuck.

Myestro wrote:

And why didn't the Graduate Assistant go to the cops himself? This whole situation just seems like one giant clusterfuck.

ditto

I have no sympathy for the guy whatsoever. Doing the bare minimum is the same as doing nothing if the outcome is the same. I really think he only said anything at all because he thought it would cover his ass. Interestingly, former WCW announcer Mark Madden called this shit quite some time ago:

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I can't find a link to the original article, but the article itself is there in it's entireity.

Also of note, but not really mentioned in the mainstream media, is this interesting piece of information that gets glossed over for one reason or another:

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I have no sympathy for the guy whatsoever. Doing the bare minimum is the same as doing nothing if the outcome is the same. I really think he only said anything at all because he thought it would cover his ass. Interestingly, former WCW announcer Mark Madden called this shit quite some time ago:

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I can't find a link to the original article, but the article itself is there in it's entireity.

short and to the point, well said

One thing that pisses me off is that Mike McQuery (the grad assistant who saw what Sandusky did and reported it to Paterno) still has a fucking job on the Penn State football staff! That shit makes no fucking sense to me.

It would be against the law to fire him at this point because he is protected under the whistle blower's act, regardless of how long it took him. Paterno only reported the problem to his boss, and not authorities. At least, that's how I understand it but details are sketchy.

Anyone who had knowledge of the situation and failed to alert the police should be charged as an accomplice. Some of the vic5ins could've been spared. I understand its not currently a law, but this is exactly the situation that calls for setting a precedent.

You listen to hip hop and think that there should be a law requiring everyone to snitch?

To be clear, in this instance, I completely agree. However, I am totally against any law stating that all witnesses of any crime are required to report it. Police in a lot of areas simply can not be trusted and if a witness doesn't feel safe reporting a crime to the police then why should they? AGAIN, yes, in instances of murder, child abuse, rape, and other extremely severe crimes I think reporting the crime should be mandatory but that doesn't mean I think we should get all 1984 here.

Well, as example, anyone (in NYS, at least) who works with children or in health care is a mandatory reporter of any child abuse evidence.... punishable by law. I see no problem in extending that mandate to general public.

parker lewis wrote:

Anyone who had knowledge of the situation and failed to alert the police should be charged as an accomplice. Some of the vic5ins could've been spared. I understand its not currently a law, but this is exactly the situation that calls for setting a precedent.

What are you saying, Pile? It's acceptable for that dude to witness an old man touching a little boy and just notify his boss? And when he sees the same guy going about his business, clearly not dealing with repercussions, he should simply trust in the wisdom of his chain of command?

he's agreeing with you parker... that's the perfect 10 smiley

lol... my bad. It doesn't animate on my phone, just looks like three puzzled faces. I thought it was kind of contradicting his earlier post.

KJ Styles wrote:

One thing that pisses me off is that Mike McQuery (the grad assistant who saw what Sandusky did and reported it to Paterno) still has a fucking job on the Penn State football staff! That shit makes no fucking sense to me.

ditto

I think the fundamental change in schools is they need to require such information to be passed onto the campus police (not security, folks with actual legal authority) first and foremost.

Or it needs to be clearly stated in such instances that high level staff are not the proper authority.