New School Personal Classic?

These some of the post 2000 albums I consider personal classics:

Blu & Exile- Below Heavens
Talib Kweli- Ear Drum
Slaughterhouse
Jay-Z- Black Album
Jay-Z- Blueprint
Game- Documentary
Scarface- MADE
Scarface- The Fix
Eminem- MMLP
Kanye West- College Dropout
Ghostface- Supreme Clientele

My list would be pretty huge if I really think this through, so I'm gonna go off the top of my dome.

All Blue Scholars releases
All Common Market releases
Blu & Exile "Below the Heavens"
Lupe Fiasco "Food & Liquor"
Lushlife "Cassette City"
Kanye West "College Dropout"
Brother Ali "Shadows of the Sun"
Aesop Rock "Labor Days"
Killer Mike/El-P "R.A.P. Music"
Tech N9ne "Anghellic"
Jedi Mind Tricks "Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell"
Vinnie Paz "Season of the Assassin"
Reflection Eternal "Train of Thought"
Scarface "The Fix"

Man I'll stop there...just too many dopeness...fuck what old man Powell says, there are a BUNCH of dope shit that came out post 2000!

I could go on & on and list a few of the Common albums that came out. Same goes for J-Live, The Roots, MF Doom, hell even OC dropped a couple personal classics post 2000.

Eminem - MMLP
Eminem - The Eminem Show
Eminem - Relapse
D12 - Devil's Night
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
Ghostface Killah - The Big Doe Rehab
Nas - Stillmatic
Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead
Nas - Life Is Good
R.A. the Rugged Man - Die, Rugged Man, Die
Aesop Rock - Labor Days
E&A - First Born
E&A - E&A
Sean Price - Monkey Barz
Scarface - The Fix
Devin the Dude - Just Tryin' Ta Live
Paul & Cham - Get Ya Mind Correct
Chamillionaire - Ultimate Victory
Talib Kweli - Eardrum
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying
Royce Da 5'9" - Bar Exam 2 (despite being a mixtape)
Mos Def - The Ecstatic
Wu-Tang - Chamber Music
Kid CuDi - Man On The Moon: The End of Day
K-Rino - Annihilation of the Evil Machine
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Kendrick Lamar - Section.80

I know there are more...

Fuck what you said Tranny....there isn't a "BUNCH OF DOPENESS" that has dropped after 2000...stop lying, there has been some select bangers but if you really think that the post 2000 era can fuck with the 80's and 90's then you need some brand new ears A.S.A.P.

anyway some personal classics for me (2000-) include:

Ghostface-Supreme Clientele
A.G./O.C.-Oasis (one word...DOPE)
Buckshot/9th Wonder-The Formula
Showbiz/A.G.-Mugshot Music (this shit is straight ridiculous)
Little Brother-The Minstrel Show
Little Brother-Chitlin Circuit 1.5.
Nas-Untitled
Nas-Life Is Good (I know it just dropped but it's already at personal classic status for me mayne)
Nas-Lost Tapes
Nas-Stillmatic
Blu & Exile-Below The Heavens
Kanye West-Late Registration
Kanye West-College Dropout
M.O.P.-Warriorz
De La Soul-The Grind Date
Common-Finding Forever
Jay-Z-American Gangster
Q-Tip-The Renaissance
Hall Of Justus-Soldiers Of Fortune
Jean Grae-Jeanius
Jean Grae/Blue Sky Black Death-The Evil Jeanius

I'm pretty sure there is a few more that I forgot to mention but I think this covers most of the ones that I consider PERSONAL CLASSICS (2000-)

the one thing I've noticed about (2000-) hip-hop is that there is alot of quality hip-hop music but mainly of the 4 stars or slightly better variety IN MY OPINION but not the consistent 5 star plus bangers of pre 2000 (especially from 1984-1996)...that period of hip-hop will NEVER EVER be duplicated ever again IN MY OPINION!

Tic706 wrote:

These some of the post 2000 albums I consider personal classics:

Blu & Exile- Below Heavens
Talib Kweli- Ear Drum
Slaughterhouse
Jay-Z- Black Album
Jay-Z- Blueprint
Game- Documentary
Scarface- MADE
Scarface- The Fix
Eminem- MMLP
Kanye West- College Dropout
Ghostface- Supreme Clientele

I agree with the Jay-Z picks (of course!), The Fix, MMLP, Kanye, and Ghostface. Personal classics for me too Kev.

Post 2000 personal classics for me are:

Nas- Stillmatic, The Lost Tapes, Hip Hop Is Dead, Untitled (Life Is Good is heading in this direction also)
Jay-Z- The Blueprint, American Gangster, The Black Album
Ghostface- Supreme Clientele, Fishscale, The Big Doe Rehab
UGK- Underground Kingz
De La Soul- The Grind Date
50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin
Kanye West- The College Dropout (Late Registration may make this list also)
The Left- Gas Mask
Raekwon- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Pt. II

I think that post 2000 has a shit load of classics but the concentration of classics is much less because many more albums are dropped each year now. Artists used to take their time to craft gems, now it seems like its hit or miss more often than not.

Anyway, I agree with a lot of these picks but to name a few unmentioned...

Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons...
Brother Ali - Us
Evidence - Cats and Dogs
Xzibit - Restless
Snoop Dogg - Tha Last Meal
Alchemist - 1st Infantry
Outkast - Stankonia
Three 6 Mafia - When The Smoke Clears
Project Pat - Mista Don't Play
Phonte - Charity Starts At Home

Genelec & Memphis Reigns - Scorpion circles
Beanie Sigel - The B Coming
Kool G Rap - The Giancana Story
Eminem - MM LP
Eminem - The Eminem Show
Kanye West - College dropout
Kanye West - Late Registration
Necro - I Need Drugs
Necro - Gory Days
Necro - The Pre-fix for death
Ill Bill - What's wrong with Bill
Jedi Mind Tricks - Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell
The Lost Children of Babylon - Where Light was Created - Equidivium
The Lost Children of Babylon - Words From the Duat: Book of Anubis
Sick Since - The Return of Nibiru
Bad Karma - Wild Fire
The Roots - Game Theory
Common - Be
Murs & 9th Wonder 3:16

I forgot some albums, I think.

Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange, Oneirology (Probably one of my favorite albums of all time)
One Be Lo - S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M., Project F.E.T.U.S. (I have so many memories of listening to this album with my best friend)
Senim Silla - The Name, The Motto, The Outcome
Binary Star - Masters of the Universe
Blu & Exile - Below The Heavens
Quasimoto - The Unseen
Q-Tip - The Renaissance
The Roots - Game Theory, How I Got Over (How I Got Over = My Life)
K-Rino - Solitary Confinement (Lyrically this album is just Blasphemous IMO)
Kendrick Lamar - O(verly) D(edicated) (This mixtape just flows so well)
J-Live - The Best Part (Was this released in 99 or 2000?)
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Lupe Fiasco - The Cool (I know I said I didn't like this album that much initially but now I love it!)
Common - Like Water For Chocolate
Dela - The Robert Glasper Tape (If you are a fan of Jazzy beats CHECK THIS OUT! It's FREE!!)
Wiz Khalifa - Kush & OJ (Idk if I would really consider this a personal classic but I remember hanging out with my friends and listening to this before we would go party so I had to mention it)
Apathy - Wanna Snuggle (Yes I take it over Honkey Kong and Eastern Philosophy)
Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow
Brother Ali - Shadows on The Sun
J Dilla - Donuts

Genelec & Memphis Reigns - Scorpion circles (good looks PKT!)
Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
Cunninlynguists - Oneirology
Cunninlynguists - Southernunderground
Q-Unique - Vengeance Is Mine
Q-Unique - Between Heaven & Hell
Creed Chameleon - Love Potion Cyanide
7L & Esoteric - The Soul Purpose
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer
Masta Ace - Disposable Arts
Swollen Members - Bad Dreams
Sweatshop Union - Local 604
Sweatshop Union - Natural Progression
Sweatshop Union - United We Fall
Non-Phixion - The Future Is Now
DJ Muggs & Planet Asia - Pain Language
Celph Titled & Buckwild - Nineteen Ninety Now

Super Chron Flight Brothers: Cape Verde
Talib Kweli: Quality
Nappy Roots: Watermelon, Chicken & Grits
Non-Phixion: The Future Is Now
Blackalicious: Blazing Arrow
Vakill: The Darkest Cloud
Aesop Rock: Labor Days
JMT: Legacy of Blood
The Roots: Tipping Point
RA the Rugged Man: Die!, Rugged Man, Die!
Demigodz: The Godz Must Be Crazy
Scarface: The Fix
Oktober: Art of Raw
Megalon: A Penny For Your Thoughts
Rodan: Theophany- Book of Elevation
Access Immortal: American Me
Moka Only & Def 3: Dog River
Cunninlynguists: A Piece of Strange
Cunninlynguists: Dirty Acres
Common: Like Water For Chocolate
JMT: Violent by Design
Binary Star: MOTU
Big L: The Big Picture

I'll be back

LCOB: Where Light Was Created: The Equividium
Black Market Militia
Senim Silla: The Name The Motto The Outcome
Brother Ali: Shadows on the Sun
Cage: Hell's Winter
Ras Kass: ADIDAS
El-P: I'll Sleep When You're Dead
Dalek: From the Filthy Tongue...
Atmosphere: You Can't Imagine
Blu & Mainframe: Johnson & Jonson
Blu & Exile: Below the Heavens
K-Rino: Blood Doctrine
K-Rino: Solitary Confinement
K-Rino: Worst Rapper Alive
K-Rino: Annihilation of the Evil Machine
Pumpkinhead: Orange Moon Over Brooklyn
AOTP: Torture Papers
AOTP: Ritual of Battle
AOTP: Unholy Terror
Apathy: Eastern Philosophy
Apathy: Honky Kong
Celph's Titled & Buckwild: 199Now
Rise & Avid Record Collector: Risen
Aesop Rock: None Shall Pass
Felt 3: Tribute to Rosie Perez
J-Live: All of the Above
Snowgoons: Black Snow
Killah Priest: The Offering
Killah Priest: Elizabeth
Killah Priest: 3 Day Theory
Killah Priest: Behind the Stained Glass
60 Second Assassin: Remarkable Timing
Hell Razah & BSBD: Razah's Ladder
Jean Grae & BSBD: Evil Jeanius
Invincible: Shapeshifters
Slaine: White Man Is The Devil, Vol 2
Reks: Grey Hairs
Ill Bill: Hour of Reprisal
John Robinson & Lewis Parker: International Summer


Like I said on amazon, I can listen to any of these albums at any time... 'personal' classics, right?

Forgot about 1999 Now and Disposable Arts. Nice picks fellas!

parker lewis wrote:

LCOB: Where Light Was Created: The Equividium
Black Market Militia
Senim Silla: The Name The Motto The Outcome
Brother Ali: Shadows on the Sun
Cage: Hell's Winter
Ras Kass: ADIDAS
El-P: I'll Sleep When You're Dead
Dalek: From the Filthy Tongue...
Atmosphere: You Can't Imagine
Blu & Mainframe: Johnson & Jonson
Blu & Exile: Below the Heavens
K-Rino: Blood Doctrine
K-Rino: Solitary Confinement
K-Rino: Worst Rapper Alive
K-Rino: Annihilation of the Evil Machine
Pumpkinhead: Orange Moon Over Brooklyn
AOTP: Torture Papers
AOTP: Ritual of Battle
AOTP: Unholy Terror
Apathy: Eastern Philosophy
Apathy: Honky Kong
Celph's Titled & Buckwild: 199Now
Rise & Avid Record Collector: Risen
Aesop Rock: None Shall Pass
Felt 3: Tribute to Rosie Perez
J-Live: All of the Above
Snowgoons: Black Snow
Killah Priest: The Offering
Killah Priest: Elizabeth
Killah Priest: 3 Day Theory
Killah Priest: Behind the Stained Glass
60 Second Assassin: Remarkable Timing
Hell Razah & BSBD: Razah's Ladder
Jean Grae & BSBD: Evil Jeanius
Invincible: Shapeshifters
Slaine: White Man Is The Devil, Vol 2
Reks: Grey Hairs
Ill Bill: Hour of Reprisal
John Robinson & Lewis Parker: International Summer


Like I said on amazon, I can listen to any of these albums at any time... 'personal' classics, right?

Oh no doubt that's what's up haha. Hear Abandoned Language?

Nope, should that be next?

parker lewis wrote:

Nope, should that be next?

Yeah. Their best in my opinion.

well i typed a huge list and then accidentally closed my browser and lost it all, smh.

I finally peeped The Name The Motto The Outcome after reading these lists...I can see why people chose it...Dope, dope shit.

Laced With Slang wrote:

well i typed a huge list and then accidentally closed my browser and lost it all, smh.

I wonder how much Wu-Tang is included in your list?? retype that shit Sal and let us all see mayne....lol

I've gotta add Apollo Brown/O.C.-Trophies to my list because that shit is bangin, classic post 2000 hip-hop right there it's my AOTY for 2012 right now!

2000s shits all over the 80s, but the 90s is the best ever will never be topped. I'd have to see a list of 2000 releases to type mine up.

Search this forum for "Top 5 20XX" . We did a thread for each year to a point. I think you were here for most of them.

SteveT wrote:

2000s shits all over the 80s, but the 90s is the best ever will never be topped. I'd have to see a list of 2000 releases to type mine up.

U wish dickhead! lol

80's groups alone kills most of the 2000's acts...

80's:
Run-D.M.C.
Fat Boys
Gangstarr
Public Enemy
Heavy D And The Boyz
Whodini
Sugarhill Gang
Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five
Audio Two
N.W.A.
Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud
EPMD
Wreckx-N-Effect
Finesse and Synquis
Salt-N-Pepa
Sequence
The Treacherous Three
Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde
The Crash Crew
Funky Four Plus One
Soul Sonic Force
Juice Crew Allstars
Jungle Bros
A Tribe Called Quest

and these are just some of the groups from the 80's I haven't mentioned them all of them but each one of these had an origin in the 80's....don't let me start getting busy with the solo acts as well that originated in the 80's as well....LEGENDARY acts all the way....post 2000 is fuckin doo-doo Steve just like U!

Just two cuts from a completely BRILLIANT album mayne....Apollo Brown/OC-Trophies is the TRUTH....to me this is one of the ways that hip-hop is supposed to sound like.....love this shit!

D.Powell wrote:

Just two cuts from a completely BRILLIANT album mayne....Apollo Brown/OC-Trophies is the TRUTH....to me this is one of the ways that hip-hop is supposed to sound like.....love this shit!

Yessirrr...Nothing is touching it this year. I agree this album has that, "Oh shit! It's Hip Hop!" feel to it, lol.

Those two tracks were amazing. I'll have to give that album a DL and maybe buy.

As for those acts you listed: half are irrelevant, and half released their best stuff in the 90's.

Next.

Trophies is a great album.

"Trophies" is ridiculous! "The Formula" is one of my favorite tracks of the year.

SteveT wrote:

Those two tracks were amazing. I'll have to give that album a DL and maybe buy.

As for those acts you listed: half are irrelevant, and half released their best stuff in the 90's.

Next.

I said ORIGINATED in the 1980's dum-may


and which acts would you consider "irrelevant" and explain why?? and then let me know who you have as being more relevant then them in the 2000's???

nice loaded question huh Beavis?? now answer it fully Butthead!

@ Terry and E.Taylor AGREED....

Trophies for me is the AOTY of 2012.....and with it being such a weak ass year IMO, it puts it even more miles ahead of the "competition"


I'm going to be picking up that Killer Mike very soon by the way Terry!

D.Powell wrote:

80's groups alone kills most of the 2000's acts...

80's:
Run-D.M.C.
Fat Boys
Gangstarr
Public Enemy
Heavy D And The Boyz
Whodini
Sugarhill Gang
Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five
Audio Two
N.W.A.
Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud
EPMD
Wreckx-N-Effect
Finesse and Synquis
Salt-N-Pepa
Sequence
The Treacherous Three
Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde
The Crash Crew
Funky Four Plus One
Soul Sonic Force
Juice Crew Allstars
Jungle Bros
A Tribe Called Quest

and these are just some of the groups from the 80's I haven't mentioned them all of them but each one of these had an origin in the 80's....don't let me start getting busy with the solo acts as well that originated in the 80's as well....LEGENDARY acts all the way....post 2000 is fuckin doo-doo Steve just like U!

LMAO. Powell I know the 80's was your era but come on man. Most of those grps were not even considered that good back then. Most were novelty acts that made one or two good songs. There are plenty of post 2000 artist way better than most of them. Pioneer does not automatically equal eternal greatness.

Tic706 wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

80's groups alone kills most of the 2000's acts...

80's:
Run-D.M.C.
Fat Boys
Gangstarr
Public Enemy
Heavy D And The Boyz
Whodini
Sugarhill Gang
Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five
Audio Two
N.W.A.
Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud
EPMD
Wreckx-N-Effect
Finesse and Synquis
Salt-N-Pepa
Sequence
The Treacherous Three
Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde
The Crash Crew
Funky Four Plus One
Soul Sonic Force
Juice Crew Allstars
Jungle Bros
A Tribe Called Quest

and these are just some of the groups from the 80's I haven't mentioned them all of them but each one of these had an origin in the 80's....don't let me start getting busy with the solo acts as well that originated in the 80's as well....LEGENDARY acts all the way....post 2000 is fuckin doo-doo Steve just like U!

LMAO. Powell I know the 80's was your era but come on man. Most of those grps were not even considered that good back then. Most were novelty acts that made one or two good songs. There are plenty of post 2000 artist way better than most of them. Pioneer does not automatically equal eternal greatness.

NAME 'EM KEV! as Luther Vandross said "Give Me The Reason" baby bubba!

It's not about the 80's being my era...although I do need to keep in mind that you didn't even have cable tv back then so you missed a bunch of shit and it's your era too Kev you ain't 21 my dude.....lol


the 80's and 90's hip-hop>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2000's hip-hop IN MY OPINION!

and it ain't even close baby bubba!

Of the groups I mentioned that I said originated in the 1980's I only count 2 of them (Gangstarr and A Tribe Called Quest) as being the ones who hadn't hit their stride in the 80's yet and really capitalized in the 90's.....but they started in the 80's though...everyone else on that list had already released high quality hip-hop music in the 80's...do your damn homework my dudes and learn and then talk......go and read those names again and those are only a few groups that I'm mentioning but I've got more....lol

Whodini
Sugarhill Gang (one hit wonder)
Audio Two
Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud
Wreckx-N-Effect
Finesse and Synquis
Salt-N-Pepa (lol)
Sequence
The Treacherous Three
Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde
The Crash Crew
Funky Four Plus One
Soul Sonic Force
Jungle Bros


Those are the irrelevant groups, and many others were just pioneers, and did not advance the art form, though some did help put it on the map.

Plus, who cares if they originated in the 20's? We are talking about music releases, and anyone on that list worth a damn had their best in the 80's. The 90's dominate both decades, and the 80's is nothing objectively compared to today (best as you can compare a subjective art form).


Tons of your favorites doing it well still today!

D.Powell wrote:

Tic706 wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

80's groups alone kills most of the 2000's acts...

80's:
Run-D.M.C.
Fat Boys
Gangstarr
Public Enemy
Heavy D And The Boyz
Whodini
Sugarhill Gang
Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five
Audio Two
N.W.A.
Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud
EPMD
Wreckx-N-Effect
Finesse and Synquis
Salt-N-Pepa
Sequence
The Treacherous Three
Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde
The Crash Crew
Funky Four Plus One
Soul Sonic Force
Juice Crew Allstars
Jungle Bros
A Tribe Called Quest

and these are just some of the groups from the 80's I haven't mentioned them all of them but each one of these had an origin in the 80's....don't let me start getting busy with the solo acts as well that originated in the 80's as well....LEGENDARY acts all the way....post 2000 is fuckin doo-doo Steve just like U!

LMAO. Powell I know the 80's was your era but come on man. Most of those grps were not even considered that good back then. Most were novelty acts that made one or two good songs. There are plenty of post 2000 artist way better than most of them. Pioneer does not automatically equal eternal greatness.

NAME 'EM KEV! as Luther Vandross said "Give Me The Reason" baby bubba!

That will not really mean a thing to you. I grew up in the 80's but I was still a young teenager in the 90's. Most of those artisit outside of the NY area were not major factors. The 90's is the best decade fairly easily and the 80's laid the foundation for the great 90's. I'll never deny that. But to truly think that its that many artist from the 80's that top these post 2000 artist is a real warped view. Now 80's mainstream rap was waaay better than most of post 2000 rap. I can see that. But if you mean 80's vs. 2000 overall than I have to go with the 2000 overall.

Powell is the only rap fan not in a nursing home who would say 80's are better. Everyone else knows the truth baby bubba!

SteveT wrote:

Whodini
Sugarhill Gang (one hit wonder)
Audio Two
Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud
Wreckx-N-Effect
Finesse and Synquis
Salt-N-Pepa (lol)
Sequence
The Treacherous Three
Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde
The Crash Crew
Funky Four Plus One
Soul Sonic Force
Jungle Bros


Those are the irrelevant groups, and many others were just pioneers, and did not advance the art form, though some did help put it on the map.

Plus, who cares if they originated in the 20's? We are talking about music releases, and anyone on that list worth a damn had their best in the 80's. The 90's dominate both decades, and the 80's is nothing objectively compared to today (best as you can compare a subjective art form).


Tons of your favorites doing it well still today!

Yo...did anyone else see who white ass Steve called irrelevant??

The Sugarhill Gang is irrelevant?
Soul Sonic Force (Afrika Bambaataa) is irrelevant?
The Treacherous Three is irrelevant?
Funky Four Plus One??
Salt-N-Pepa?
The Jungle Bros?
Sequence?
The Crash Crew?
Whodini?


I let the others slide but just by you mentioning those acts listed there you get a HUGE

as a matter of fact let's add in another one just for safekeeping


your hip-hop knowledge about the old school is extremely limited white steve...just like your knowledge of the black race......you're getting one more

Kev didn't you graduate from HS in the 90's??

so what's with all this "I was a young teenager shit"??? my dude you were at least 18 at some point in the 90's....you aren't far behind me mayne and I was in my twenties throughout the entire 90's and actually 19 in 1990...so kill the noise Kevin...lol

stop acting like your only 12 in 2012 mayne.....the reason your knowledge on 80's hip-hop is limited even though you're old enough is because you didn't have access to cable television...you've already admitted this before...care to change your story now???

the hip-hop order of things in my opinion is 90's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>80's>>>>>>>>>>>>>2000's

when the 2000's can lay claim to a Nations Of Millions....or a Strictly Business or a Raising Hell or a Radio or a Straight Outta Compton then it can talk but until then I hear crickets mayne...lol

2000's has so much more releases than 80's. So im pretty sure that 2000's also has more good albums. But from what I've heard, I might like 80's more.

It's easy to name horrible albums from 2000's. I dont think I can even name 10 bad rap albums from 80's. 1988, 1989 are easily better than any years from 2000's.

Here we go again...

The 80s deserves RESPECT. MAD RESPECT. Pioneering the game will always deserve respect.

BUT...

It was BASIC AS FUCK!!!

Simple ass beats. Simple ass lyrics. Other than Rakim, Kane, PE, BDP, G Rap, Ultramag, and and MAYBE a handful of others, 80s shit sounds like preschool. The 90s clicked as the moment in time when everything was just perfect. They ran with the foundation of the 80s and they turned the game into a billion dollar industry just before shit got sour and the media started gaying everything up. But the 2000's BY FAR has the greatest talent and production is better than ever. Even the artists that are still around from back in the day sound waaay better nowadays. It's because shit evolves. Apple II E's got replaced by iPads and Macbooks.

The only thing that fucks everything up in the game today is the mainstream. There used to be CLASSIC material on the radio and TV and now that type of shit takes a back seat to flashy and faggy. Dre Day got replaced by I'm Gay...smh.

LMAO LMAO DAWG MAYNE GTFO


NYC SADAT X IS MY COUSIN DAWG

Aw, you could have at least used the emoticons...

SteveT wrote:

LMAO LMAO DAWG MAYNE GTFO


NYC SADAT X IS MY COUSIN DAWG

there goes a few for you SOUL MAN...


honestly Steve, you can't lie about your race and crack on anyone ever again...I mean never....to be discovered the way you were with that picture is some extra funny shit....I give you a little bit of credit for returning but I can't listen to anything you say ever again...cause if you lied about that then I realize you'll lie about anything......


@Wandy.......the principle order of things even with the "basicness" is 90's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>80's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2000's (dead last)


if anything computers are what fucked everything up even more......now dudes like you think you can be Premier because of a computer....lol...shit jeffrey makes beats so that should tell you everything....

what I'm saying is my opinion just like what you said is yours....thats whats up! hey at least you didn't LIE about your race huh???

there goes another emoticon just for you Stevie J.

@Wandy

please give me your top 10 albums from the 2000's of all-time man......

the best produced....the best lyrics you can think of?? thanks mayne!

" Even the artists that are still around from back in the day sound waaay better nowadays"

you really believe that statement??

KRS sounds better than ever now??

Chuck D sounds better than ever now??

LL Cool J sounds better than ever now??

Rakim sounds better than ever now??

Jay-Z sounds better than ever now???

I could go on and on but first I'm wondering if you're 100% sure about that statement you just typed?? because honestly it sounds kinda crazy mayne.....lol..like maybe you don't really know or understand what you're saying??? don't forget that albums from the 2000's list for me by the way....your TOP 10 hip-hop albums from the 00's (the best produced, the best lyrics) because the talent level is "through the roof" (at least according to you it is)

D.Powell wrote:

@Wandy

please give me your top 10 albums from the 2000's of all-time man......

the best produced....the best lyrics you can think of?? thanks mayne!

The Blueprint (Jay-Z's best album)
Stillmatic (Nas' best album)
Marshall Mathers LP (Not like you'd ever get it a serious listen)
Supreme Clientelle (GFK's best album)
Stankonia (Outkast's best album)
Deltron 3030 (Del tha Funkee Homosapien's best album)
Let's Get Free (Best black power/liberate the people album since early Chuck D)
The Realness (Cormega's best album ever)
The Listening (In 1992 it would have been platinum)
GRODT (Would have sold 25 mil in 1993)
College Dropout
Hell Hath No Fury (Would make Kool G proud)
Below the Heavens (Another album that would have dominated in 1993)

Those are just albums you may have heard. There are countless other underground albums you will never give a chance to. I guess you think Jim Thorpe is the fastest of all time huh? Maybe Carl Lewis? Maybe George Mikan is the best center? Or Joe Jackson is the best hitter? Coming first doesn't mean best.

1980's were basic in every sense of the word. Any new artform is basic. But you can't admit that. Have a great day.

The 80's laid the foundation. And it was the first rap music that the world heard. So it will always have its place. The 2000's have the 80's beat lyrically and style wise fairly easily. Only things the 80's have over the 2000's music wise is more known classic albums and songs. Most of the 2000 classic albums are more spread out and did not get attention on the mainstream like those albums in the 80's did. Also singles became formulated and generic in the 2000's and cannot compete with the all time classic of the 80's.