10-15 yrs.?

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10-15 yrs from now what ten post 2000 rappers/grps do you think will still be talked up highly and mentioned with the greats or goods?

I thought about this because i'm 33 and everytime I talk to someone in my age range about rap music there is always this instant spark in their eyes and excitment on the topic. I can just mention a name like "Chubb Rock" for example and we are dapping each other and just trippin on how much we use to luv it. So I wonder who from this post 2000 generation will be discussed the same.

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Gucci Mane

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:05 pm

Madvillain/MF Doom/Madlib
Dizzee Rascal (pre - Tongue N Cheek)
Vakill
Cunninlynguists
Cormega
The Game
Clipse
OneBeLo
Aesop Rock
Blackalicious

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:07 pm

Lil Wayne

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:09 pm

Cise Starr wrote:: Lil Wayne

Fuck that, but probably true

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:11 pm

He's the best lyricist of all-time. So obviously we would remember him.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:13 pm

Cise Starr wrote:: He's the best lyricist of all-time. So obviously we would remember him.

Yeah man I forgot. Don't forget soulja boy too.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:14 pm

Both are wayy better and more lyrical that Lupe.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:15 pm

Cise Starr wrote:: Both are wayy better and more lyrical that Lupe.

No question. I mean seriously, they are better.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:18 pm

Word...life

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:19 pm

Cise Starr wrote:: Word...life

I love O.C.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:20 pm

Yeah he's great. Not a sell-out like Nas.

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TI and Luda will be up there. Unfortunately probably Young Jeezy.

Game will hopefully keep a decent enough legacy to be mentioned.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:22 pm

Cise Starr wrote:: Yeah he's great. Not a sell-out like Nas.

Yeah what a fucking sellout faggot

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:26 pm

Totally. I mean it was written that he would sell out.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 1:44 pm

Absolutely NO ONE

it's sad yes, but it's also true

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Powell you really think no one?

I don't think I can realistically mention 10 but these few will be mentioned

Kanye West
Talib Kweli
T.I.
Ludacris
Game (maybe)
Eminem
Lil Wayne (maybe)

I can't think of no grps.....

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D.Powell wrote:: Absolutely NO ONE

it's sad yes, but it's also true

C'mon Powell. I know that post-2000 hip-hop isn't as dope as the Golden Ages. But you honestly can't say that nobody that's rhymed post 2000 is gonna be any good in the future. That's insane to say.

I see these kids making an impact as far as QUALITY is concerned. Not sales or marketability (although that could happen too) but definitely quality.

Eminem (even though he debuted in 99, he's still thought of as a 2000 MC).
Ludacris
Lupe Fiasco (I don't care what people in this forum think, I feel that the man's got skills and both his albums are at least 4 star quality)
Kanye West (If he goes back to rapping and stops that auto-tune shit, he'll be a heavy hitter for years to come)
T.I.
One Be Lo
Joe Budden
Crooked I (not sure when he debuted, but he's yet to drop a solo album so I put him in this catagory)
Corey Gunz
Little Brother (these guys are still good even without 9th Wonder)
Vakill
Beanie Sigel
Nipsey Hu$$le

And fuck everybody that's called Nas a sellout. He's still got deeper subject matter than 95% or better of the rap game.

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Kendrick Davis wrote:: Madvillain/MF Doom/Madlib
Dizzee Rascal (pre - Tongue N Cheek)
Vakill
El-P
Cormega
The Game
Clipse
OneBeLo
Aesop Rock
Blackalicious

Hate to bust this bubble but Vakill, El P, Clipse, OneBeLo, Blackalicious, Aesop Rock will not be remembered like that I don't feel. Mega maybe.

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Lil Wayne is pre-2000

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Space Muzik wrote:: Lil Wayne is pre-2000

I was thinking that but like Em he came into his mega stardom post 2000.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 2:01 pm

Okay then

Phonte
Eminem
T.I.-but the main one from him that I love is Paper Trail, I need to see more like that from him
Ludacris-extremely underrated lyrical cat

hmmm...that's about it!

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Phonte/Little Brother is a big ass maybe because they quit to early in the game imo. Lupe maybe but he has yet made that majority undisputed classic.

Corey Gunz? Crooked I? Joe Budden? Nipsey Hussle?...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJ did you understand the thread?

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 2:04 pm

D.Powell wrote:: Okay then

Phonte
Eminem
T.I.-but the main one from him that I love is Paper Trail, I need to see more like that from him
Ludacris-extremely underrated lyrical cat

hmmm...that's about it!

Eminem is pre-2000

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 2:07 pm

KRob86 wrote:: Phonte/Little Brother is a big ass maybe because they quit to early in the game imo. Lupe maybe but he has yet made that majority undisputed classic.

Corey Gunz? Crooked I? Joe Budden? Nipsey Hussle?...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJ did you understand the thread?

You need to get Big Pooh's newest shit Kev....that joint is straight bangin to me man....Little Brother is still around even if it's in solo form my dude...I'm surprised that more heads aren't talking about that one.."Delightful Bars" is what it's called if I'm correct...I don't have it in front of me but go cop that one man

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KRob86 wrote:: Phonte/Little Brother is a big ass maybe because they quit to early in the game imo. Lupe maybe but he has yet made that majority undisputed classic.

Corey Gunz? Crooked I? Joe Budden? Nipsey Hussle?...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJ did you understand the thread?

Kev, you're asking me for PREDICTIONS so I'm giving them to you.

YES I understood the thread!! Are you Nostradamus or something? Otherwise, how can you say that the MC's I mentioned aren't gonna be good in the future???

I've liked what I've heard from Gunz and Hussle so far. And I've heard you big up Slaughterhouse so how could you not say that Budden and Crooked I aren't gonna be dope. They already are dope IMO. I would have gone with Royce but he debuted before 2000 (I didn't like him much at first, but he spit fire on that album) and I'm not completely sure about Ortiz (at least as a solo artist).

The point of the thread was to list my PERSONAL OPINIONS on who will blow up in the future. If you disagree with me then that's fine, but you cannot tell me that I didn't follow the point of the thread or give an honest response.

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D.Powell wrote:

KRob86 wrote:: Phonte/Little Brother is a big ass maybe because they quit to early in the game imo. Lupe maybe but he has yet made that majority undisputed classic.

Corey Gunz? Crooked I? Joe Budden? Nipsey Hussle?...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJ did you understand the thread?

You need to get Big Pooh's newest shit Kev....that joint is straight bangin to me man....Little Brother is still around even if it's in solo form my dude...I'm surprised that more heads aren't talking about that one.."Delightful Bars" is what it's called if I'm correct...I don't have it in front of me but go cop that one man

Me love this cover.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 2:20 pm

Space Muzik wrote:

D.Powell wrote:

KRob86 wrote:: Phonte/Little Brother is a big ass maybe because they quit to early in the game imo. Lupe maybe but he has yet made that majority undisputed classic.

Corey Gunz? Crooked I? Joe Budden? Nipsey Hussle?...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJ did you understand the thread?

You need to get Big Pooh's newest shit Kev....that joint is straight bangin to me man....Little Brother is still around even if it's in solo form my dude...I'm surprised that more heads aren't talking about that one.."Delightful Bars" is what it's called if I'm correct...I don't have it in front of me but go cop that one man

Me love this cover.

I thought Big Pooh was openly gay?

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D.Powell wrote:

KRob86 wrote:: Phonte/Little Brother is a big ass maybe because they quit to early in the game imo. Lupe maybe but he has yet made that majority undisputed classic.

Corey Gunz? Crooked I? Joe Budden? Nipsey Hussle?...LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KJ did you understand the thread?

You need to get Big Pooh's newest shit Kev....that joint is straight bangin to me man....Little Brother is still around even if it's in solo form my dude...I'm surprised that more heads aren't talking about that one.."Delightful Bars" is what it's called if I'm correct...I don't have it in front of me but go cop that one man

I will check it out I just ignored it because I did not really hear anyone talk about it. Plus to be they are sooo much betta together.

KJ, I was just saying the folks you mentioned you truly feel they will be bought up with the Redman's, Outkast's, and Spice 1's of the industry? Let alone the Rakim's, Kane's, and Cube's?

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 3:16 pm

smh! I've been telling people that Delightful Bars is dope

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[quote="KRob86"][quote="D.Powell"]

KRob86 wrote:: KJ, I was just saying the folks you mentioned you truly feel they will be bought up with the Redman's, Outkast's, and Spice 1's of the industry? Let alone the Rakim's, Kane's, and Cube's?

I don't know if they'll be as great as those guys, but they definitely have an opportunity to be.

All I'm saying that those guys will be heavy hitters in the future. Those that doubt me probably haven't given the guys I've mentioned an honest listen. I've liked what I've heard from those cats thus far, so the future definitely looks bright for them.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 8:34 pm

Luda
Eminem
TI
Kanye West
Jadakiss (maybe)
Atmosphere (maybe)
Reks
Joe Budden
Royce da 5'9"

I can see people talkin about these kats.

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I 4got Jada and the whole LOX! I really a 100% do not see Budden being mentioned.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 8:42 pm

considering Lox were making noise as early as 1997, i don't see how they count

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 8:47 pm

Yeah, Eminem was around since '96 also, but the majority of thier work is post 2000, no?

I can see Joe Budden blowing up a little - he may be mentioned at least 10 years from now.

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KRob86 wrote:: I 4got Jada and the whole LOX! I really a 100% do not see Budden being mentioned.

I mentioned Budden. He's the biggest star in Slaughterhouse and has the best solo discog so he's only gonna blow up more.

And the Lox debuted in 1997, so they don't qualify.

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KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:: I 4got Jada and the whole LOX! I really a 100% do not see Budden being mentioned.

I mentioned Budden.

And the Lox debuted in 1997, so they don't qualify.

...KJ you the homeboy but you catch on slooow sometimes. I was saying I cannot see how Budden was mentioned as one of the guys who will be talked up a decade from now.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 10:15 pm

Uhhh...

MF Doom (1991, fools)
El-P (Company Flow? 1997)
Talib Kweli (Black Star anyone? 1998)
Eminem (1999)
Atmosphere (1997)

and more...

As for my picks...

Aesop Rock
Blackalicious
Mr. Lif
Cunninlynguists
Brother Ali
Immortal Technique
Little Brother
People Under The Stairs
Jean Grae

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 10:17 pm

Alan wrote:: Uhhh...

MF Doom (1991, fools)
El-P (Company Flow? 1997)
Talib Kweli (Black Star anyone? 1998)
Eminem (1999)
Atmosphere (1997)

and more...

As for my picks...

Aesop Rock
Blackalicious
Mr. Lif
Cunninlynguists
Brother Ali
Immortal Technique
Little Brother
People Under The Stairs
Jean Grae

I know Doom was in a group (KMD) back then. I know El-P was in a group (Company Flow) back then. They didn't do too much solo-wise until post 2000.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 10:57 pm

Kendrick Davis wrote:

Alan wrote:: Uhhh...

MF Doom (1991, fools)
El-P (Company Flow? 1997)
Talib Kweli (Black Star anyone? 1998)
Eminem (1999)
Atmosphere (1997)

and more...

As for my picks...

Aesop Rock
Blackalicious
Mr. Lif
Cunninlynguists
Brother Ali
Immortal Technique
Little Brother
People Under The Stairs
Jean Grae

I know Doom was in a group (KMD) back then. I know El-P was in a group (Company Flow) back then. They didn't do too much solo-wise until post 2000.

OK, so can I nominate B-Real because he didn't release a solo album until this year? What about J-Ro of Tha Alkaholiks? CL Smooth?

I mean, what does post-2000 mean?

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 11:01 pm

Alan wrote:

Kendrick Davis wrote:

Alan wrote:: Uhhh...

MF Doom (1991, fools)
El-P (Company Flow? 1997)
Talib Kweli (Black Star anyone? 1998)
Eminem (1999)
Atmosphere (1997)

and more...

As for my picks...

Aesop Rock
Blackalicious
Mr. Lif
Cunninlynguists
Brother Ali
Immortal Technique
Little Brother
People Under The Stairs
Jean Grae

I know Doom was in a group (KMD) back then. I know El-P was in a group (Company Flow) back then. They didn't do too much solo-wise until post 2000.

OK, so can I nominate B-Real because he didn't release a solo album until this year? What about J-Ro of Tha Alkaholiks? CL Smooth?

I mean, what does post-2000 mean?

I see what you mean. But I think people will talk about MF DOOM and El-P's solo output as some of the best of 2000, and view them as post-2000 artists in a sense. Not to mention I had a hard time thinking of great post-2000 artists. Good call on cunninlynguists though, I'll edit out El-P and put them in instead.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 11:04 pm

MF Doom is a good pick, because he wasn't rapping in KMD the way he does now.

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KRob86 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:: I 4got Jada and the whole LOX! I really a 100% do not see Budden being mentioned.

I mentioned Budden.

And the Lox debuted in 1997, so they don't qualify.

...KJ you the homeboy but you catch on slooow sometimes. I was saying I cannot see how Budden was mentioned as one of the guys who will be talked up a decade from now.

I know what you said. You can disagree if you want. But I feel that he will be. He's the most popular member of Slaughterhouse and he has a good discog, and he hasn't even PEAKED yet. So you can't honestly say that he doesn't have a chance to be a huge star.

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I would definitely consider Atmosphere post-2000. They will certainly carry a legacy with a huge fanbase. Same for Tech N9ne and JMT.

Apathy and Celph have potential, so does Vakill.

Nappy Roots - even if they flop out, their first album will be a classic to a lot of people.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 12:32 pm

I think Field Mob (at least in the South) will be brought up and people will go crazy about how underrated they were....

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Kid Joe wrote:: I would definitely consider Atmosphere post-2000. They will certainly carry a legacy with a huge fanbase. Same for Tech N9ne and JMT.

Apathy and Celph have potential, so does Vakill.

Nappy Roots - even if they flop out, their first album will be a classic to a lot of people.

I like Nappy Roots' second album better than the first personally, but both are dope.

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 8:45 pm

Shaun wrote:: MF Doom is a good pick, because he wasn't rapping in KMD the way he does now.

What? He was rhyming better

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 8:46 pm

Not saying he wasn't rapping better, I'm saying people know DOOM for the way he rhymes now. He's basically a different rapper; just like NYoil

Subject: Re: 10-15 yrs.? Sat 12 Sep 2009, 11:29 am

Shaun wrote:: Not saying he wasn't rapping better, I'm saying people know DOOM for the way he rhymes now. He's basically a different rapper; just like NYoil

Personally, I don't see much of a difference. Now he just sounds like he's got a mouth full of cotton when he rhymes. Whereas he just sounded a bit clearer on the KMD material. Still not much difference IMO.

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I think we are all overlooking the obvious:

N3R0. He will start dropping racial slurs on mixtapes and hanging out with rastas anytime now. Then Exzakt and he will form the super-duo KKKill the Nigras.