Album Of The 90's Day 2

Alright Tribe barely pulled it out yesterday so let's see if it can repeat. We got Common and Mobb Deep stepping up to the plate.

Tribe...again.

Tribe and its not close.

AMW>Whut?>MOBB DEEP'S INFAMOUS>Common's Resurrection>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tribe.

N3R0 wrote:

AMW>Whut?>MOBB DEEP'S INFAMOUS>Common's Resurrection>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tribe.

I disagree with that entirely. Even though I voted for Cube yesterday, I think Midnight Marauders is better than Whut, Infamous, and Resurrection. And I think The Low End Theory is better than all of them including AMW.

That's cool, KJ (pun intended). I know you don't canonize Tribe's catalogue like a lot of fools who on here like their hip hop like they like their lives: boring.

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

KRob86 wrote:

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

So they're better because they're hardcore? GTFOH with that bullshit Kev.

KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

So they're better because they're hardcore? GTFOH with that bullshit Kev.

I believe what Kevin meant was all things being equal, he would prefer hardcore hip hop to the more affeminate sounds you seem to like. But that's okay, we just can't relate to MC's talking about their period and getting tricked out by their man. But that's cool if that's what you like homie.

Infamous

N3R0 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

So they're better because they're hardcore? GTFOH with that bullshit Kev.

I believe what Kevin meant was all things being equal, he would prefer hardcore hip hop to the more affeminate sounds you seem to like. But that's okay, we just can't relate to MC's talking about their period and getting tricked out by their man. But that's cool if that's what you like homie.

Eat a dick Jeff! What the fuck is affeminate about ATCQ??? Tip is an elite lyricist and Phife is one of the best sidekicks ever. Just because they don't talk about guns, violence, and killing people (which 95% of rappers have never done) doesn't make them less dope. Y'all just got limited rap tastes.

Tribe again...just above The Infamous by a little bit....that Tribe joint is just going to be hard to beat!

D.Powell wrote:

Tribe again...just above The Infamous by a little bit....that Tribe joint is just going to be hard to beat!

Agreed, both albums are in my Top 25 but MM edges it out IMO.

I'm just giving you shit KJ, didn't mean to take it that far. Tip is a dope lyricist (with a girly voice) and Phife is good at what he does. I don't really hate Tribe, I just like giving people shit for liking them. I can't get into "living room rap" (as I like to call it), but that's nothing against anybody.

N3R0 wrote:

I'm just giving you shit KJ, didn't mean to take it that far. Tip is a dope lyricist (with a girly voice) and Phife is good at what he does. I don't really hate Tribe, I just like giving people shit for liking them. I can't get into "living room rap" (as I like to call it), but that's nothing against anybody.

That's fine, but someone can easily counter you by saying that you seemingly like every white rapper.

That wouldn't be a "counter" argument...

KRob86 wrote:

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

ok you say this and then shove Kanye's dick in your ears?? doesnt make sense to me, Kanye is far "-er and softer" than Tribe

Slang Editorial wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

ok you say this and then shove Kanye's dick in your ears?? doesnt make sense to me, Kanye is far "-er and softer" than Tribe

Damn son!

Slang Editorial wrote:

ok you say this and then shove Kanye's dick in your ears??

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I assume you meant the Common album and not the Geto Boys album so i go with The Infamous. In the immortal words of KJ, Prodigy is a far better lyricist than Phife and Q-Tip.

Infamous. Midnight Marauders is the weakest of the Tribe albums that matter.

T. Myers wrote:

I assume you meant the Common album and not the Geto Boys album so i go with The Infamous. In the immortal words of KJ, Prodigy is a far better lyricist than Phife and Q-Tip.

I disagree with that. I thought Tip and Prodigy were about even at one time, but post-Murda Musik Tip has been FAR better. You can even argue that Havoc has been better than Prodigy since then.

KJ Styles wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I assume you meant the Common album and not the Geto Boys album so i go with The Infamous. In the immortal words of KJ, Prodigy is a far better lyricist than Phife and Q-Tip.

I disagree with that. I thought Tip and Prodigy were about even at one time, but post-Murda Musik Tip has been FAR better. You can even argue that Havoc has been better than Prodigy since then.

No, Q-Tip has NEVER been a better lyricist. There is no denying that Prodigy lost a step, but Product of The 80's is easily as good as any effort Q-Tip has been a part of since then. However we are talking about The Infamous and MM, and there is absolutely nothing on MM that is messing with Prodigy lyrically.

Slang Editorial wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Infamous and its not even a tad close. Gangsta/hardcore rules you soft bitches!

ok you say this and then shove Kanye's dick in your ears?? doesnt make sense to me, Kanye is far "-er and softer" than Tribe

Every thing is just one dimensional to some people minds huh? I prefer the harder sound over the elevator music but that does not mean I don't enjoy some softcore at times also.

College Dropout>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>betta than anything Tribe has dropped album wise imo.

KRob86 wrote:

College Dropout>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>betta than anything Tribe has dropped album wise imo.

Fuck No!!!! Tribe's first 3 albums are EASILY better than College Dropout. Hell, even Beats Rhymes & Life is comparable.

808s & Heartbreak>Tribe's whole catalogue. And I fucking HATE 808s & Hearbreak.

T. Myers wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I assume you meant the Common album and not the Geto Boys album so i go with The Infamous. In the immortal words of KJ, Prodigy is a far better lyricist than Phife and Q-Tip.

I disagree with that. I thought Tip and Prodigy were about even at one time, but post-Murda Musik Tip has been FAR better. You can even argue that Havoc has been better than Prodigy since then.

No, Q-Tip has NEVER been a better lyricist. There is no denying that Prodigy lost a step, but Product of The 80's is easily as good as any effort Q-Tip has been a part of since then. However we are talking about The Infamous and MM, and there is absolutely nothing on MM that is messing with Prodigy lyrically.

I don't agree with any of that. You just hate on Tip because you don't like jazz rap.

N3R0 wrote:

808s & Heartbreak>Tribe's whole catalogue. And I fucking HATE 808s & Hearbreak.

If you honestly think that, then your opinion on this topic is completely WORTHLESS!

It's crazy how people in here say that my rap taste is limited, yet most in here have more bias than Len (disliking jazz rap, female rappers, MC's that didn't grow up in the "hood" etc).

I don't have any such biases. If somebody can rhyme then I give them their props.

y'all are all faggots...

KJ Styles wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I assume you meant the Common album and not the Geto Boys album so i go with The Infamous. In the immortal words of KJ, Prodigy is a far better lyricist than Phife and Q-Tip.

I disagree with that. I thought Tip and Prodigy were about even at one time, but post-Murda Musik Tip has been FAR better. You can even argue that Havoc has been better than Prodigy since then.

No, Q-Tip has NEVER been a better lyricist. There is no denying that Prodigy lost a step, but Product of The 80's is easily as good as any effort Q-Tip has been a part of since then. However we are talking about The Infamous and MM, and there is absolutely nothing on MM that is messing with Prodigy lyrically.

I don't agree with any of that. You just hate on Tip because you don't like jazz rap.

Not being a big fan of Jazz Rap has nothing to do with appreciating lyricism. Q-Tip has never been as good as Prodigy when it comes to lyricism. Is Tip a better mc? maybe. But please don't ever try to compare them lyrically. it's not even close.

Saint Killa wrote:

y'all are all faggots...

Nah that's you dogg, I'm straight up and down like 6 o'clock

Kanye doesn't have a single album that fucks with the Tribe's first 3 albums. Tribe's sound originated some shit. Tribe's steez (along with De La, Jungle Bros, etc...) originated some shit. If you keep the time line in order, the Tribe sound was pretty much unheard of up until they came out.

Kanye can't lay claim to anything but a sped up sample...if that.

The replay value of Tribe albums tend to hold steady for me. I don't reach for Kanye albums very often.

Graduation (so-so) and 808's (dookie) are both forgettable albums with 808's being flat out wack.

Hardcore, , fake gangsta, conscious, studio thugs, elevator music, or whatever... It's easier for me to listen to Common rap about Assata Shakur than it is for me to stomach lies about guns and crack. At least the ones I patronize for that particular topic do it creatively (Clipse, Raekwon, etc,...)

Get rid of them divisions and just reach for the dope shit. That prejudice is what limits your experiences with the music.

T. Myers wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I assume you meant the Common album and not the Geto Boys album so i go with The Infamous. In the immortal words of KJ, Prodigy is a far better lyricist than Phife and Q-Tip.

I disagree with that. I thought Tip and Prodigy were about even at one time, but post-Murda Musik Tip has been FAR better. You can even argue that Havoc has been better than Prodigy since then.

No, Q-Tip has NEVER been a better lyricist. There is no denying that Prodigy lost a step, but Product of The 80's is easily as good as any effort Q-Tip has been a part of since then. However we are talking about The Infamous and MM, and there is absolutely nothing on MM that is messing with Prodigy lyrically.

I don't agree with any of that. You just hate on Tip because you don't like jazz rap.

Not being a big fan of Jazz Rap has nothing to do with appreciating lyricism. Q-Tip has never been as good as Prodigy when it comes to lyricism. Is Tip a better mc? maybe. But please don't ever try to compare them lyrically. it's not even close.

My definition of lyricism is spittin dope lines. I think Tip on Award Tour, Midnight Marauders, Lyrics To Go, Steve Biko (Stir It Up), are as dope as anything P spit on the Infamous. They just have different styles. You're entitled to disagree but that's just my opinion.

Both albums are among my Top 25 of all time though, so I won't be upset either way.

Kopasetick wrote:

Get rid of them divisions and just reach for the dope shit. That prejudice is what limits your experiences with the music.

That is HANDS DOWN the realest statement in the history of these forums.

I actually agree with everything you said above, but ESPECIALLY that statement!

Kopasetick wrote:

Kanye doesn't have a single album that fucks with the Tribe's first 4 albums. Tribe's sound originated some shit. Tribe's steez (along with De La, Jungle Bros, etc...) originated some shit. If you keep the time line in order, the Tribe sound was pretty much unheard of up until they came out.
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this matchup is hard as fuck for me btw, Infamous and MM are both in my top 25 i guess ill go with Infamous since i was just bumpin it last night

I was semi just being a ass with the Ye/Tribe comments but I do prefer that album over any of Tribes. But I know their 1st 3 albums hold more status and importance than CD.

Divisions don't limit my music experience I am just grown enough and established enough in this rap shit to know what moves me and what doesn't.

Close call but I'm goin with Tribe.

The Infamous quite easily.

Mobb Deep no doubt.

Slang Editorial wrote:

Kopasetick wrote:

Kanye doesn't have a single album that fucks with the Tribe's first 4 albums. Tribe's sound originated some shit. Tribe's steez (along with De La, Jungle Bros, etc...) originated some shit. If you keep the time line in order, the Tribe sound was pretty much unheard of up until they came out.
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Indeed

I put 3 because the first 3 are widely accepted as classic. I personally think the 4th album is right up there, but I can understand why others wouldn't, so I didn't think it would fly.

I agree, though...