Album Of The 90's Day 20

Liquid Swords seems unstoppable but here's some more heavy comp from that 90's. Two albums in which one of them will be on anybodies top 10 from the 90's.

Ha! I told Terry that OB4CL would be in today's poll.

OB4CL, easy.

Neither

SRP doesn't show love to anything unless it's from the South or West

But anyway, The Low End Theory wins for me, it's my 2nd fav album of all time.

LS retains.

This dropped on LOUD?

hell yea LOUD ran shit in the 90's

Loud had a bunch of dope shit, co-sign "ran shit in the 90's"

Lol, I was just kidding.

"Low End Theory" is my favorite album of all time, so I'm going to vote for it. In the end I wouldn't be mad if "Cuban Linx" or "Liquid Swords" would win because they are both classics...

GZA - LS

All 3 classics without a doubt. Tribe comes in 3rd here because i'm more of a Wu fan than i am tribe. Raekwon finally knocks out GZA here for me.

"All my tommy hill ice rocking niggas" wins.

Tribe...easy

3 classics but my order for them goes like this:


Only Built For Cuban Linx
The Low End Theory
Liquid Swords


Rae wins!

I got Liquid Swords. Hey Slang, you can be honest with me. Your dick got hard a little when you saw OB4CL was nominated, right?

Gotta go with Liquid Swords. I love all three but Liquid Swords is one of my favorites of all time. Cuban Linx isn't far behind though.

LOL good one Terry

OBFCL should be beating LS. There was so much more to CL than there was LS. The whole loose theme/concept, the impact it had dominates LS' impact, the high intensity bangers to the calmer songs, it had everything LS had and more.

LS > TLET > OB4CL

Liquid Swords

I voted for Low End Theory as it is one of my personal favorites of all time.

Well thanks for making this poll boring because there are not many albums that will knock out Liquid Swords with the luv it gets in these parts. Plus the taste of this forum is mostly undaground basic or more traditional boom bap hip hop so I feel no other style of album will have a chance against this album. I know there are a few who dabble in hardcore albums on here but not many who truly dig that style.

C'mon Kev, we've had some surprising victors in the 00's thread. Just keep giving us dope albums and let us decide what's best.

KRob86 wrote:

Well thanks for making this poll boring because there are not many albums that will knock out Liquid Swords with the luv it gets in these parts. Plus the taste of this forum is mostly undaground basic or more traditional boom bap hip hop so I feel no other style of album will have a chance against this album. I know there are a few who dabble in hardcore albums on here but not many who truly dig that style.

Stop hatin dude!

BTW I voted for The Low End Theory, but all 3 of these albums are in my Top 15.

no shit. kevs just made his albums well not beat LS.

Im listening to LS right now and dont see the hate for this record at all. hating this is like hating illmatic, shits just not right.

Ain't nobody hating the proof is in the threads. Go look at the pattern of the taste on this forum. I'm just stating facts not hating.

The winner so far of the '09 thread was Souls Of Mischeif
The winner so far of the '00 thread so far Masta Ace

no it obvious you dont want LS to win.

and you never liked Masta Ace so your probably made about that one.

There's no "e" in mad...

And Kev, stop it. You can't say everyone here is stuck on Boom Bap. If that's the case, then explain Romped voting for Liquid Swords on several occasions...

I voted for Rae. LET is not as good as MM IMO. And GZA loses, again, IMO, for all the reasons Slang stated...

Naw I hear you Nor but i'm just saying its a preference around here for the most part for the softer side of hip hop. I swear I have no problem with this I just wish people would just own up to that is what they prefer. So with the majority leaning toward that direction that is why these polls always end up with the same results.

For example, if I bring up Mr Mike Wicked Wayz only Terry and SRP are really up on it. We have some on here who i'm sure heard it or even own it but truly connected with it only 3 of us maybe 4. It always limits me when I do these polls because I know if I take "x" jazzy/softcore cd and put it against "x" harder edge and or more mainstream album or southern/midwest/west coast cd its like an automatic blowout. And I truly feel its not just because one is superior than the other just lack of knowledge or more so lack of people on this forum who connect to that sound on the harder or more mainstream album.

I'm sure if I go to Yogi's forum on the west coast the opposite effect would happen where every hard album would dominate the softer edge albums. I just wish it was more diverse listeners around sometimes thats all.

KRob86 wrote:

Naw I hear you Nor but i'm just saying its a preference around here for the most part for the softer side of hip hop. I swear I have no problem with this I just wish people would just own up to that is what they prefer. So with the majority leaning toward that direction that is why these polls always end up with the same results.

For example, if I bring up Mr Mike Wicked Wayz only Terry and SRP are really up on it. We have some on here who i'm sure heard it or even own it but truly connected with it only 3 of us maybe 4. It always limits me when I do these polls because I know if I take "x" jazzy/softcore cd and put it against "x" harder edge and or more mainstream album or southern/midwest/west coast cd its like an automatic blowout. And I truly feel its not just because one is superior than the other just lack of knowledge or more so lack of people on this forum who connect to that sound on the harder or more mainstream album.

I'm sure if I go to Yogi's forum on the west coast the opposite effect would happen where every hard album would dominate the softer edge albums. I just wish it was more diverse listeners around sometimes thats all.

how is Liquid Swords a "soft" album, gtfoh with that shit man. Sure Gza isnt spitting about street life every track but the album is not SOFT lol. It samples "Shogun Assassin" throughout, arguably one of the most violent movies i have ever seen with some of the most fucked up samples from it on LS. He talks about slaying mc's and brags a lot of the album, drugs, and some street life stories

"Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft" ....soft? no

"Callin all cars, callin all cars! Ghetto
Psychos, armed and dangerous, leavin mad scars on those
Who are found bound, gagged and shot when they blast the spot
Victims took off like astronauts
Get with this, even your best can't
come on down, you're the next contestant!
Get your pockets dug from all your Chemical Bank-ins
Caught him at the red light - on Putnam Avenue and Franklin" ...soft? NO

where are you getting the idea that Liquid Swords is a soft album??? and the beats are nothing but dark

this is one of those albums i put on on a rainy day with my hoodie on and just bug out man, not some feel good shit

Liquid Swords is soft compared to Straight Outta Compton right? Maybe I used the wrong choice of words but you get what I mean. Plus I did not only mention the softer sound I mentioned the undaground sound also.

KRob86 wrote:

Liquid Swords is soft compared to Straight Outta Compton right? Maybe I used the wrong choice of words but you get what I mean. Plus I did not only mention the softer sound I mentioned the undaground sound also.

theres a difference

SOC is a "im pissed off and im gonna let you know" hard album

LS is a "im gonna take you around the corner and stab you in the back of the head with an ice pick" hard type album

No Liquid Swords is the you gotta really listen to catch the hardcoreness of it because the delivery is non aggressive and it has a kung fu theme and album title. I'm not calling Liquid Swords str8 soft by any means but when I think of hardcore albums with hardcore topics and lyrics this album does not pop in my mind.

all you have to do is listen to the lyrics to catch the hardcoreness

have you listened to the kung fu samples in there??? they are blatently hardcore/straightup violent

its way more hardcore than the fucking Fix from a sound standpoint, the Fix has poppier beats and Kanye fucking pussy West on the album, yet you probably think the Fix is harder than LS

Slang Editorial wrote:

all you have to do is listen to the lyrics to catch the hardcoreness

have you listened to the kung fu samples in there??? they are blatently hardcore/straightup violent

its way more hardcore than the fucking Fix from a sound standpoint, the Fix has poppier beats and Kanye fucking pussy West on the album, yet you probably think the Fix is harder than LS

Naw I actullay agree with you that Liquid Swords may be harder than the Fix. The Fix obviously had a lighter sound to it. But lyrically it was still on some hard shit on most of it.

I get what you mean, Kev. I've checked Yogi's forum. Not bad, but not my speed yet. I see your point.

As far as the lyrics, you're right, you do have to listen to catch certain aspects. It requires a dedicated listen in some cases and some people simply aren't willing to commit that much attention to something like music. Sometimes it's complex, sometimes it's not. But it's never straightforward and easy to latch onto with albums like Liquid Swords or most Wu material. Some refer to what you speak of as watering down the lyrics...you know, for mass consumption.

hard shit is gay. i dont care if your a gangster saying unimaginative things

Fuck this hard vs smooth shit. All that matters is that the music is dope.

I love ATCQ and De La Soul, but I also love Wu Tang and Geto Boys. Dopeness is dopeness regardless of the style.

BTW Kev, Cold World is one of the darkest Wu songs ever made. It may have a smooth melody, but the lyrics are violent as hell. Kinda like A Minute To Pray and a Second To Die by Scarface.

I voted Liquid Swords to break the tie... but it will lose to Iron Man and The Headhunter.

Kopasetick wrote:

I get what you mean, Kev. I've checked Yogi's forum. Not bad, but not my speed yet. I see your point.

As far as the lyrics, you're right, you do have to listen to catch certain aspects. It requires a dedicated listen in some cases and some people simply aren't willing to commit that much attention to something like music. Sometimes it's complex, sometimes it's not. But it's never straightforward and easy to latch onto with albums like Liquid Swords or most Wu material. Some refer to what you speak of as watering down the lyrics...you know, for mass consumption.

I agree. And as far as the watering down the lyrics I know exactly what you mean but at the same time there are more people who enjoy the simple things more so than the complicated or complex. They both can coexsist with the right respect for each others preference imo. I consider myself a more in between where I do not want hear rappers trying to mesmerize me all the time with big words and deep lyrics but at the sametime I do want rappers insulting my intelligence with elementary wordplay and subjects all the time. But I can deal with both just not one if that makes sense.

KRob86 wrote:

Slang Editorial wrote:

all you have to do is listen to the lyrics to catch the hardcoreness

have you listened to the kung fu samples in there??? they are blatently hardcore/straightup violent

its way more hardcore than the fucking Fix from a sound standpoint, the Fix has poppier beats and Kanye fucking pussy West on the album, yet you probably think the Fix is harder than LS

Naw I actullay agree with you that Liquid Swords may be harder than the Fix. The Fix obviously had a lighter sound to it. But lyrically it was still on some hard shit on most of it.

my point in this is that you have a double standard when you complain about hardcore albums not getting respect here. When really, there are plenty of hardcore albums that get respect that just dont fit your definition of "hardcore".

Saint Killa wrote:

I voted Liquid Swords to break the tie... but it will lose to Iron Man and The Headhunter.

disappointed in that vote

Slang Editorial wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Slang Editorial wrote:

all you have to do is listen to the lyrics to catch the hardcoreness

have you listened to the kung fu samples in there??? they are blatently hardcore/straightup violent

its way more hardcore than the fucking Fix from a sound standpoint, the Fix has poppier beats and Kanye fucking pussy West on the album, yet you probably think the Fix is harder than LS

Naw I actullay agree with you that Liquid Swords may be harder than the Fix. The Fix obviously had a lighter sound to it. But lyrically it was still on some hard shit on most of it.

my point in this is that you have a double standard when you complain about hardcore albums not getting respect here. When really, there are plenty of hardcore albums that get respect that just dont fit your definition of "hardcore".

That could be the case I won't deny that hindsight is 20/20. But I really mean the more hardcore southern, midwest, and west sound is not as appreciated on this forum as the east coast jazzy and east coast grimy/hardcore.