Devin the Dude - Jus' Coolin'

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/09/28/devin-the-dude-jus-coolin/#comment-501918

New album 'Gotta Be Me' out Nov 2.

This is on Real Talk I think. So I am inclined to pass, but if it is on sale for 7.99 on best buy I will likely suckcum.

I'm checking out that trk now. I hope this album is betta than Suite 420.

Its typical Devin. Very safe song which is cool.

lol...devin has been doing the same thing for over a decade... I wouldn't consider that "safe"...lol...just consistent

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

lol...devin has been doing the same thing for over a decade... I wouldn't consider that "safe"...lol...just consistent

Well safe and consistant runs hand and hand. Plus his last few albums have not been consistant quality wise.

That's your opinion, I don't think Devin has one bad album in his catalog. Safe to me is conforming to what others expect for fear of being too different. Devin just does himself and what he's always done. I wouldn't consider it "safe." At this point in his career do you really go into a Devin song or album expecting something different?

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

That's your opinion, I don't think Devin has one bad album in his catalog. Safe to me is conforming to what others expect for fear of being too different. Devin just does himself and what he's always done. I wouldn't consider it "safe." At this point in his career do you really go into a Devin song or album expecting something different?

Well Just Trying To Live had some unsafe Devin moments on it. So he can do it. And Devin only has one bad album in my book. And I agree that with your defintiion of "safe" and it may fit Devin to agree. Its safe for him to come out with that type of sound because its the norm for him and his fans expect it.

The only different thing on Just Trying was a few outside beats. My issue is there is no consistency in your criticism. Scarface has been putting out the same "safe" album for over a decade, but he gets praised by you for his consistency, someone else does it and you criticize it for being safe. You can't have it both ways.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

The only different thing on Just Trying was a few outside beats. My issue is there is no consistency in your criticism. Scarface has been putting out the same "safe" album for over a decade, but he gets praised by you for his consistency, someone else does it and you criticize it for being safe. You can't have it both ways.

Oh naw I have said the samething about Face. I just don't put it on blast because he's my fav artist and i'm cool with it for the most part. I'd like to see him step out his comfort zone also but if he doesn't i'm good. And I said "safe" does not eqaul bad. It is what it is.

Cool, I see where you are coming from now, glad we could have a civilized debate.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Cool, I see where you are coming from now, glad we could have a civilized debate.

Mos def mofo!......oops I mean homey.

This track is exactly what I expect from Devin. This is an auto-cop for me.

I'm not supporting Real Talk regardless if the track is decent. By giving those guys support buying their albums, they'll be more inclined to produce more unofficial albums.

J. Harris wrote:

I'm not supporting Real Talk regardless if the track is decent. By giving those guys support buying their albums, they'll be more inclined to produce more unofficial albums.

Isn't that throwing the baby out with the bath water? I know the unofficial album thaing is bullshit but how else are you gonna support the album if he's only releasing it (to my knowledge) through Real Talk?

Purple Haze, you iz stanz

I support Devin but I won't support any Real Talk releases.

I always wait for real talk/siccness albums to hit the dollar mark on amazon and buy em then.

Can somebody explain to me the deal with real talk and why everyone hates them

Well, my main gripe with real talk/siccness was that they just buy rights to random shit someone may have record before, for a mixtape, etc. and release it. They usually are vague as to the nature of the CD - whether its an album or mixtape, when it was recorded, etc. Almost no artists ever promote or support the shit. Most of them I'm sure get paid somewhere along the line, but it's not your traditional CD.

Many times its old verses layered over in house production or an old mixtape released with a few different beats, etc. Early on they ran into problems, Kool Keith sued them and stopped distribution of Dr. Octagon II because it was an unauthorized released of unfinished songs and verses he had delivered to some label who then sold them to real talk.

So it's just shit like that. Sometimes they'll put their own rappers on there to fill in verses and make it seem like Styles P or Hell Rell or whoever actually cosigned or worked with them. Usually it's not the rapper's best work either.

Dr. Octagon II is the only one I bought retail because I had no clue at the time and it sucked big time. They have dropped some decent albums and their in house producers are decent, so I usually preview on napster and then wait for them to be cheap. That's my other thing - in about 2 years almost any CD they make is guaranteed to hit the bargain bin so I just wait.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Well, my main gripe with real talk/siccness was that they just buy rights to random shit someone may have record before, for a mixtape, etc. and release it. They usually are vague as to the nature of the CD - whether its an album or mixtape, when it was recorded, etc. Almost no artists ever promote or support the shit. Most of them I'm sure get paid somewhere along the line, but it's not your traditional CD.

Many times its old verses layered over in house production or an old mixtape released with a few different beats, etc. Early on they ran into problems, Kool Keith sued them and stopped distribution of Dr. Octagon II because it was an unauthorized released of unfinished songs and verses he had delivered to some label who then sold them to real talk.

So it's just shit like that. Sometimes they'll put their own rappers on there to fill in verses and make it seem like Styles P or Hell Rell or whoever actually cosigned or worked with them. Usually it's not the rapper's best work either.

Dr. Octagon II is the only one I bought retail because I had no clue at the time and it sucked big time. They have dropped some decent albums and their in house producers are decent, so I usually preview on napster and then wait for them to be cheap. That's my other thing - in about 2 years almost any CD they make is guaranteed to hit the bargain bin so I just wait.

Ah, okay. Thanks for the info.

Highsmith wrote:

I support Devin but I won't support any Real Talk releases.

I feel ya