GHHA Day 5 Round 2: ATLiens vs. Criminal Minded (B1)

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This is actually a tough one, but I thought "ATLiens" first so that's what I'm going with.

Criminal Minded, but both are top 25 or so for me.

ATLiens easily.

smh. Booty, again. My GOAT vs. #6... Criminal Minded

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

ATLiens but its damn close

Criminal Minded easily

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

Negro please!!! Criminal Minded is easily a GOAT album, nothing against ATLiens but it's not even Kast's consensus best. CM has aged quite well, and gets 5 star ratings across the board from critics and fans alike.

And I don't give a fuck what you KRS haters on this forum think, KRS is one of the Top 5 MC's that ever lived, and CM has way more classic songs and sounds better. I can't see how anyone who's not a bama or KRS hater wouldn't choose Criminal Minded.

Blastmaster wins this EASILY!!

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

Negro please!!! Criminal Minded is easily a GOAT album, nothing against ATLiens but it's not even Kast's consensus best. CM has aged quite well, and gets 5 star ratings across the board from critics and fans alike.

And I don't give a fuck what you KRS haters on this forum think, KRS is one of the Top 5 MC's that ever lived, and CM has way more classic songs and sounds better. I can't see how anyone who's not a bama or KRS hater wouldn't choose Criminal Minded.

Blastmaster wins this EASILY!!

Anybody who listens to a broad spectrum of hip hop can make an educated choice. So ATLiens whoops CM's ass easily. CM has some classic songs no doubt but ATLiens is the better album period. CM isn't BDP's concensus classic either so I guess they have something in common. CM sounds dated as hell. The shit sounded old in the 90's so how do you think it osunds now? Dated.

ATLiens is the superior album. CM chould be grateful to even be on the same thread with it.

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

Negro please!!! Criminal Minded is easily a GOAT album, nothing against ATLiens but it's not even Kast's consensus best. CM has aged quite well, and gets 5 star ratings across the board from critics and fans alike.

And I don't give a fuck what you KRS haters on this forum think, KRS is one of the Top 5 MC's that ever lived, and CM has way more classic songs and sounds better. I can't see how anyone who's not a bama or KRS hater wouldn't choose Criminal Minded.

Blastmaster wins this EASILY!!

Anybody who listens to a broad spectrum of hip hop can make an educated choice. So ATLiens whoops CM's ass easily. CM has some classic songs no doubt but ATLiens is the better album period. CM isn't BDP's concensus classic either so I guess they have something in common. CM sounds dated as hell. The shit sounded old in the 90's so how do you think it osunds now? Dated.

ATLiens is the superior album. CM chould be grateful to even be on the same thread with it.

CM is BDP's consensus best album and doesn't sound dated to these ears AT ALL. If it was dated, then why are the beats from that album STILL BEING USED TODAY??? CM is the superior album. Nothing on ATLiens is as dope as The Bridge Is Over, or South Bronx, or the title track. I'd take Poetry over most songs on that album as well.

ATLiens isn't even as good as Aquemini, and it even being as good or better than Southernplayalistic is debatable. None of them are fucking with Criminal Minded. Of course the KRS haters and Kast fanboys on this forum are gonna disagree, but the critics and hip-hop nation as a whole all know that Criminal Minded is a stone cold classic and light years better than that space age shit.

I'll say ATLiens, barely.

ATLiens and its not even remotely close. I've voiced my thoughts on CM before and caught flack for it. ATLiens is a top 5 album for me while CM wouldn't even sniff my top 200. I respect its status as one of the most iconic albums.

I am NOT a KRS hater but I just can't get into the album at all.

Cise wrote:

ATLiens and its not even remotely close. I've voiced my thoughts on CM before and caught flack for it. ATLiens is a top 5 album for me while CM wouldn't even sniff my top 200. I respect its status as one of the most iconic albums.

I am NOT a KRS hater but I just can't get into the album at all.

Sure you aren't Cise, when you dry all that wetness from behind your ears then maybe you'll be able to hear things more clearly.

And I'm not a Kast hater at all, I just feel that CM is far superior to ATLiens.

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Sure you aren't Cise, when you dry all that wetness from behind your ears then maybe you'll be able to hear things more clearly.

And I'm not a Kast hater at all, I just feel that CM is far superior to ATLiens.

When have I ever discussed KRS before? I have never called him out like the rest of the people here.

I just don't dig the album. Why can't you just accept that? No need to overreact and get hostile.

ATLiens!!!

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Nothing on ATLiens is as dope as The Bridge Is Over, or South Bronx, or the title track. I'd take Poetry over most songs on that album as well.

with that shit! Elevators? Two Dope Boys? ATLiens? Wheels of Steel? CM is a legendary album, man, but ATLiens fucks that shit up...AND its not even their best album...AND I'm from NY, so I don't wanna hear this Bama bias bullshit.

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Cise wrote:

ATLiens and its not even remotely close. I've voiced my thoughts on CM before and caught flack for it. ATLiens is a top 5 album for me while CM wouldn't even sniff my top 200. I respect its status as one of the most iconic albums.

I am NOT a KRS hater but I just can't get into the album at all.

Sure you aren't Cise, when you dry all that wetness from behind your ears then maybe you'll be able to hear things more clearly.

And I'm not a Kast hater at all, I just feel that CM is far superior to ATLiens.

You're just an Outkast hater, regardless of what you say. Nothing you can say will prove to me otherwise.

ATLiens.

Outkast

Jeff wrote:

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Cise wrote:

ATLiens and its not even remotely close. I've voiced my thoughts on CM before and caught flack for it. ATLiens is a top 5 album for me while CM wouldn't even sniff my top 200. I respect its status as one of the most iconic albums.

I am NOT a KRS hater but I just can't get into the album at all.

Sure you aren't Cise, when you dry all that wetness from behind your ears then maybe you'll be able to hear things more clearly.

And I'm not a Kast hater at all, I just feel that CM is far superior to ATLiens.

You're just an Outkast hater, regardless of what you say. Nothing you can say will prove to me otherwise.

Explain why Aquemini is in my Top 15 then, assclown? Also explain why ATLiens and Southernplayalistic are in my Top 50, and Kast is a Top 5-6 group of mine?

You can't, because what you just said was bullshit. Now you being a KRS hater is accurate. If you weren't, then you wouldn't have made a wack ass thread criticising him for making a sub-par album when he's well past his prime. You'd judge the man for his high moments like the BDP albums, Boom Bap, and his self titled album.

I've praised Kast many times on this forum, I've never heard you give KRS any love, and you've voted against him on every poll there's been, so you need to point the finger at your damn self, hater.

ATLiens. Drake is better than KRS-One.

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Jeff wrote:

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Cise wrote:

ATLiens and its not even remotely close. I've voiced my thoughts on CM before and caught flack for it. ATLiens is a top 5 album for me while CM wouldn't even sniff my top 200. I respect its status as one of the most iconic albums.

I am NOT a KRS hater but I just can't get into the album at all.

Sure you aren't Cise, when you dry all that wetness from behind your ears then maybe you'll be able to hear things more clearly.

And I'm not a Kast hater at all, I just feel that CM is far superior to ATLiens.

You're just an Outkast hater, regardless of what you say. Nothing you can say will prove to me otherwise.

Explain why Aquemini is in my Top 15 then, assclown? Also explain why ATLiens and Southernplayalistic are in my Top 50, and Kast is a Top 5-6 group of mine?

You can't, because what you just said was bullshit. Now you being a KRS hater is accurate. If you weren't, then you wouldn't have made a wack ass thread criticising him for making a sub-par album when he's well past his prime. You'd judge the man for his high moments like the BDP albums, Boom Bap, and his self titled album.

I've praised Kast many times on this forum, I've never heard you give KRS any love, and you've voted against him on every poll there's been, so you need to point the finger at your damn self, hater.

No, see, everything you said was a lie to try to disprove your hate of Outkast. You just pretend to like them so that way when you diss them people will take you seriously.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

ATLiens. Drake is better than KRS-One.

No he's not, it's just that your taste sucks ass.

And eat a dick Jeff, I've been listening to Outkast since they dropped in 94 bitch. I just like the Blastmaster more.

KRS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Y'allz favorite rappers

OUTKAST HATER I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP TALKING NOBODY TAKES YOU SERIOUS

WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE JUST AN OUTKAST HATER HATER HATER HATER

Atliens, one of my favorite albums of all time.

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

That would be all fine and dandy, but Grip It is a top 10 album to you. The same "faults" you find with CM could very easily be applied to Grip It!. Different strokes is all.

T. Myers wrote:

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

That would be all fine and dandy, but Grip It is a top 10 album to you. The same "faults" you find with CM could very easily be applied to Grip It!. Different strokes is all.

That is true. So that is where bias and favortism kicks in. I'm just saying if someone was being objective they know ATLiens is better than CM.

This one was very close but I went with Kris just slightly...two completely bangin efforts right here

"I'm just saying if someone was being objective they know ATLiens is better than CM."

lmao. That sounds like Brian Lantham saying that any objective listener would choose west coast hip hop over east coast.

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

KRob TheRapGod wrote:

I honestly do not see how anyone could choose CM over ATLiens. To me ATLiens is so much more advanced lyrically, sounds better, and aged better. Much respect to CM but this is not even close.

That would be all fine and dandy, but Grip It is a top 10 album to you. The same "faults" you find with CM could very easily be applied to Grip It!. Different strokes is all.

That is true. So that is where bias and favortism kicks in. I'm just saying if someone was being objective they know ATLiens is better than CM.

Let's do the math, shall we....

Criminal Minded
Allmusic- 5 stars
Rap Reviews- 9/10
The Source- 5 mics
Spin- 10/10
Rolling Stone- 5 stars


ATLiens
Allmusic- 4.5 stars
Rap Reviews- 10/10
The Source- 4 stars
Rolling Stone- 4 stars
Blender- 4 stars

So that's 4 out of 5 perfect scores for Criminal Minded, and only 1 out of 5 for ATLiens. GTFOH with that objective listener bullshit. You just fail to see the greatness in Criminal Minded. I like ATLiens, but CM is a Top 10 album of all time to me, and many others around the world. It EASILY belongs in a conversation about GOAT albums. I'm not saying that ATLiens doesn't, but Criminal Minded comes up far more often in those discussions whether you, SRP, Jeff, and any other naysayer likes it or not.

Jeff wrote:

OUTKAST HATER I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP TALKING NOBODY TAKES YOU SERIOUS

WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE JUST AN OUTKAST HATER HATER HATER HATER

Believe what you want, Cornfed. I own physical copies of EVERY SINGLE Outkast album, and will buy the next one when (or if) it ever drops. I don't do that with acts I dislike.

The same cannot be said about you with KRS albums.

Criminal Minded

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Cise wrote:

ATLiens and its not even remotely close. I've voiced my thoughts on CM before and caught flack for it. ATLiens is a top 5 album for me while CM wouldn't even sniff my top 200. I respect its status as one of the most iconic albums.

I am NOT a KRS hater but I just can't get into the album at all.

Sure you aren't Cise, when you dry all that wetness from behind your ears then maybe you'll be able to hear things more clearly.

And I'm not a Kast hater at all, I just feel that CM is far superior to ATLiens.

I'm not saying your a Kast hater, but I don't see how any hip hop album period can be FAR superior to Atliens. That Kast is a top 15 hip hop album of all time so nothing can possibly be far superior to it.

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Jeff wrote:

OUTKAST HATER I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP TALKING NOBODY TAKES YOU SERIOUS

WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE JUST AN OUTKAST HATER HATER HATER HATER

Believe what you want, Cornfed. I own physical copies of EVERY SINGLE Outkast album, and will buy the next one when (or if) it ever drops. I don't do that with acts I dislike.

The same cannot be said about you with KRS albums.

You simply don't get it. I own every Nas album, but this is the exact reaction I get from you whenever I criticize him. No, I don't own EVERY KRS One album, and I'm fine with your stance honeslty. I'm just hoping that now you realize this is how you look when you do this shit to other people.