Best Album 1996 Round 1: The Score vs. Cloud 9 (A)

Cloud 9 and I ain't ever even heard it.

The Score by default....

+1 for SRP.

Cloud 9, very easily to me. The Score was a handful of great tracks, a couple pretty good ones, and some remakes and other assorted garbage. Cloud 9 is a classic to me.

The Score. Checked some of the samples of Cloud 9 and its not topping The Score for me.

Highsmith wrote:: The Score by default....

Never heard Cloud 9. No vote

Fugees

im not gonna vote cuz i havent heard Cloud 9 but i can see myself liking it a lot

SMH at this bullshit. I'm gonna start voting for albums I ain't never heard either.

The Score wins by default and either way.

KJ Styles wrote:: SMH at this bullshit. I'm gonna start voting for albums I ain't never heard either.

The Score wins by default and either way.

When you vote default you're essentially doing the same thing.

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:: SMH at this bullshit. I'm gonna start voting for albums I ain't never heard either.

The Score wins by default and either way.

When you vote default you're essentially doing the same thing.

Voting AGAINST an album you've never heard is DIFFERENT from voting FOR an album you've never heard.

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:: SMH at this bullshit. I'm gonna start voting for albums I ain't never heard either.

The Score wins by default and either way.

When you vote default you're essentially doing the same thing.

Voting AGAINST an album you've never heard is DIFFERENT from voting FOR an album you've never heard.

How?

The Score!

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:: SMH at this bullshit. I'm gonna start voting for albums I ain't never heard either.

The Score wins by default and either way.

When you vote default you're essentially doing the same thing.

Voting AGAINST an album you've never heard is DIFFERENT from voting FOR an album you've never heard.

How?

Voting AGAINST an album you've never heard is ok because all that's confirming is that you really love the album you're voting for. Whereas voting FOR an album you've never heard is simply pure hatred and bullshit, not to mention that you might not even like said album you've never heard.

What if you rated the album that you have heard at 0 stars?

It's the same thing. It's an uninformed vote based on a baseless assumption driven by strong opinions on one half of the equation.

Like Shaun said, if you can "love" an album so much you can make the assumption you would not like something you haven't heard better, you can "hate" an album enough to know you would like something else better.

So stop with your bitching and complaining when you do the same thing.

E-4000, Ya Smell Me? Posts : 4876 Join date : 2009-05-31

Cloud 9... and I like The Score a whole bunch. It just isn't as consistent. Cloud 9 is a 100% banger.

I'm kind of surprised at who hasn't heard this album. I can most definitely say everyone here would dig it. Possibly not as much as myself, but still...

parker lewis wrote:: Cloud 9... and I like The Score a whole bunch. It just isn't as consistent. Cloud 9 is a 100% banger.

I'm kind of surprised at who hasn't heard this album. I can most definitely say everyone here would dig it. Possibly not as much as myself, but still...

If it were up to you (and you alone), would it be in the final four of this year? If I were the only one participating, it would definitely make the final four. I don't recall all the albums of 96 off the top of my head, but it could possibly be a finalist too. I'm just mad that Nine pretty much disappeared after this album.

Guest

Cloud 9 and I've never heard it either. No estregen.

Maybe I should just see if I can find all the songs on youtube, and post them here.

Guest

Really not necessary.

I was joking. I know that tone doesn't really come across when reading something. I'm not THAT bored, and it's not that big of a deal to me if people like Cloud 9 or not, or have heard it or not. I own it, and love it. That's all I need.

Guest

Yeah I've never been have fan of his. His voice is like DMX's without the range to me...not a fan. Still better than The Score though.

Go Hawks Posts : 4016 Join date : 2009-09-24

n/a don't own the Cloud 9, too expensive. The Score is overrated in my book.

E-4000, Ya Smell Me? Posts : 4876 Join date : 2009-05-31

Myestro wrote:

parker lewis wrote:: Cloud 9... and I like The Score a whole bunch. It just isn't as consistent. Cloud 9 is a 100% banger.

I'm kind of surprised at who hasn't heard this album. I can most definitely say everyone here would dig it. Possibly not as much as myself, but still...

If it were up to you (and you alone), would it be in the final four of this year? If I were the only one participating, it would definitely make the final four. I don't recall all the albums of 96 off the top of my head, but it could possibly be a finalist too. I'm just mad that Nine pretty much disappeared after this album.

I would most likely rank this at #2, just behind Redman.

Nine hasn't actually disappeared, but he'd have been better off. Quinine and Return of the Hardcore were terrible.

The first half of Quinine was dope

E-4000, Ya Smell Me? Posts : 4876 Join date : 2009-05-31

A Guest wrote:: Yeah I've never been have fan of his. His voice is like DMX's without the range to me...not a fan. Still better than The Score though.

Aren't you a fan of Ill Bill's early work? He was absolutely biting Nine's vocal style for a while there.

Guest

Not the demo tapes when he sounds awful and is constantly saying the N-word.

E-4000, Ya Smell Me? Posts : 4876 Join date : 2009-05-31

I agree it is that. I thought you liked it. Somebody did/does around here.

Guest

Im pretty sure it was trotter or rukus

Cloud 9 for me, dopeness.

ColdBoy456 wrote:: It's the same thing. It's an uninformed vote based on a baseless assumption driven by strong opinions on one half of the equation.

Like Shaun said, if you can "love" an album so much you can make the assumption you would not like something you haven't heard better, you can "hate" an album enough to know you would like something else better.

So stop with your bitching and complaining when you do the same thing.

Eat a dick, Pedro. If I did that shit you'd do the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING. But fuck it, since you wanna justify that bullshit behavior then I'm gonna start doing it too.

Shaun wrote:: What if you rated the album that you have heard at 0 stars?

That's an entirely different story, but you know as well as I do that SRP's only doing this shit to be a ass. I'm just the one calling him out on it.

I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Imo only time someone should vote by default is when they are 100% the album they did hear is highly favored by them. Especially if time spent with the favored album is a nice long span. I think its childish and ignorant to vote for a album you have not heard just because you "dislike" or vote against an album due to its accolades, album cover, or other outside b.s. more so than its quality.

Half wrote:: I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Exactly, these double standard idiots are too dense to see it though.

ColdBoy456 wrote:

Half wrote:: I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Exactly, these double standard idiots are too dense to see it though.

It's only considered a double standard when people like me do it because I'm not a crowd favorite in this forum like you are, but whatever. All I'm gonna say is in the future, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

TicNitty706 wrote:: Imo only time someone should vote by default is when they are 100% the album they did hear is highly favored by them. Especially if time spent with the favored album is a nice long span. I think its childish and ignorant to vote for a album you have not heard just because you "dislike" or vote against an album due to its accolades, album cover, or other outside b.s. more so than its quality.

My sentiments EXACTLY! Only ignorant ass haters would say otherwise.

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

Half wrote:: I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Exactly, these double standard idiots are too dense to see it though.

It's only considered a double standard when people like me do it because I'm not a crowd favorite in this forum like you are, but whatever. All I'm gonna say is in the future, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

That's fine, you kev, Powell, and others have been making uninformed votes from the jump, so for you to continue to do so will change nothing.

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

Half wrote:: I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Exactly, these double standard idiots are too dense to see it though.

It's only considered a double standard when people like me do it because I'm not a crowd favorite in this forum like you are, but whatever. All I'm gonna say is in the future, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

That's fine, you kev, Powell, and others have been making uninformed votes from the jump, so for you to continue to do so will change nothing.

The only person in here that has never voted by default is Half so your point is moot.

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

Half wrote:: I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Exactly, these double standard idiots are too dense to see it though.

It's only considered a double standard when people like me do it because I'm not a crowd favorite in this forum like you are, but whatever. All I'm gonna say is in the future, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

That's fine, you kev, Powell, and others have been making uninformed votes from the jump, so for you to continue to do so will change nothing.

The only person in here that has never voted by default is Half so your point is moot.

Stop speaking out of your ass, it needs all it's energy for your date with Powell tonight.

I do not vote by default. The fact is if you do not know both sides of the match up you can't make a decision with 100% accuracy. It's possible to make an educated guess, but i don't think it's fair to either album to make that choice. How anyone else votes is their decision. All i'd ever ask for is consistency.

T. Myers wrote:: I do not vote by default. The fact is if you do not know both sides of the match up you can't make a decision with 100% accuracy. It's possible to make an educated guess, but i don't think it's fair to either album to make that choice. How anyone else votes is their decision. All i'd ever ask for is consistency.

I can respect that. I don't agree all the way but I see your point. I think you can make a 100% accurate decision without hearing the other album. If Me Against The World goes against Funky Headhunters I am 1000% sure Pac wins. I know thats an extreme example but you get the point.

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

ColdBoy456 wrote:

Half wrote:: I personally think voting for an album without hearing the other choice is equivalent to voting for an album you haven't heard. In either situation you aren't able to make a comparison between the two albums up for vote, so it doesn't matter where the vote lies, it's not an informed vote. So there's no way someone voting for an album without hearing the other could be justified in taking offense when someone is voting for an album they haven't heard. There's no difference in the quality of the votes.

Basically what SRP said, just backing that up.

Exactly, these double standard idiots are too dense to see it though.

It's only considered a double standard when people like me do it because I'm not a crowd favorite in this forum like you are, but whatever. All I'm gonna say is in the future, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

That's fine, you kev, Powell, and others have been making uninformed votes from the jump, so for you to continue to do so will change nothing.

The only person in here that has never voted by default is Half so your point is moot.

Stop speaking out of your ass, it needs all it's energy for your date with Powell tonight.

Speaking out of your ass is what you do best, assclown.

Never heard the Cloud 9, no vote.