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Subject: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Thu 13 Oct 2011, 9:40 am
And it continues, we're already on to week number 6:
St.Louis At Green Bay-Pack by at least 2 touchdowns (even though this game could be closer than that I just think that the Pack is too good to win by anything less than that)
Jacksonville at Steelers-Steel Town
Philly at Redskins-deadskins in a close one at home...they are the better team, plain and simple....Reid is on his way out!
49ers at Lions-this will be an interesting game....I'm going with the Niners in an upset, the Lions have been killing shit but they aren't going to go 16-0, the letdown will have to come at some point
Carolina at Falcons-Atl at home in a shootout between Cam and Matty....
Colts at Cincy-Cincy at home easily....
Texans at Ravens-B-More at home
Buffalo at Giants-this is another good game....the G-Men will prevail because they will be wide awake this week, also Tuck should be back....
Browns at Raiders-Browns in an upset on the road....the raiders expended a bunch of emotional energy last wk and might be a little worn out this week
Dallas at New England-Brady>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Homo, so there goes your winner for this week
New Orleans at Tampa Bay-Tampa at home in a major bounceback game from getting their asses kicked in last week....it should be a close one
Vikings at Chicago-divisional games are always tricky, but I'll go with Chi-town at home this week in a close one
Monday Night: Dolphins at Jets-another divisional match-up and I'm going with the 'Fins on the road, both are desperate for a win, but the 'Fins haven't won all year....Bess and Bush make this happen for the 'Fins on Monday night....
T. Myers One Of A Kind
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Subject: Re: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Thu 13 Oct 2011, 9:51 am
St.Louis At Green Bay-Green Bay
Jacksonville at Steelers-Steelers
Philly at Redskins-Philly
49ers at Lions-Lions(if this was a road game, i might give SF the nod in an upset)
Carolina at Falcons-Carolina
Colts at Cincy-Cincy
Texans at Ravens-Ravens
Buffalo at Giants-Giants
Browns at Raiders-Raiders
Dallas at New England-Pats
New Orleans at Tampa Bay-Saints
Vikings at Chicago-Bears
Monday Night: Dolphins at Jets-Jets
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Subject: Re: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Thu 13 Oct 2011, 11:40 am
St.Louis At Green Bay-Green Bay (but I'm rooting for the rams lol)
Jacksonville at Steelers-Steelers (but the jags winning wouldn't shock me)
Philly at Redskins-Redskins...I can't believe anybody has faith in the Eagles
49ers at Lions-Lions, 49ers have the D but not enough diversity in their offense
Carolina at Falcons-Carolina
Colts at Cincy-Cincy
Texans at Ravens-Ravens
Buffalo at Giants-Bills, again, I can't believe anybody has faith left for the Giants
Browns at Raiders-Raiders
Dallas at New England-Pats
New Orleans at Tampa Bay-Saints
Vikings at Chicago-Bears
Monday Night: Dolphins at Jets-Jets
D.Powell NYC's Finest
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lol@ at anyone having "faith" in the G-Men...why wouldn't a Giants fan have "faith" in a 3-2 team?? because they lost to Seattle?? shit happens like that throughout the course of a season..... that doesn't mean their year is completely lost mayne....lmao!
No, because they really should have lost to the Cardinals AND they got beat by the Seahawks. That type of "shit" shouldn't happen in the course of 5 weeks to a GOOD team.
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No, because they really should have lost to the Cardinals AND they got beat by the Seahawks. That type of "shit" shouldn't happen in the course of 5 weeks to a GOOD team.
if thats the case then the Steelers really got beat by Seattle in Super Bowl 40 but for some strange reason it's still down in the history books as another ring for the Pittsburgh Steelers....oh and that undefeated Cheatriots team really should have beaten the 10-6 G-Men that year but again it stands as another ring for the G-Men....so what your saying right there makes absolutely no sense at all.....
you act like your a cardinals fan or something..lol....Cruz was down..go read the damn rulebook jeffrey and stop trying to create your own.....
Shaun I'm Ghetto Platinum
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Victor Cruz was not down. He thought someone had touched him and didn't want to get hit or fight for more yardage so he stopped and gave up. He was SAVED by an obscure rule usually only used by gay ass QBs who don't want to get hit. He wasn't purposefully using the rule, he lucked into it. So, yes, the rule saved him and by this obscure rule he was down, but Cruz lucked out there. Stop acting like Cruz actually knew what the fuck he was doing powell.
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He wasn't touched. This isn't college. Going down doesn't end the play. The ONLY thing that is debatable is whether or not he fell or he gave himself up. Arizona's defense gave up those 2 scores, but everyone wants to focus on that one call. It's crazy IMO. All that i care to remember is that the Giants took that game from Arizona.
Myestro Dungeon Master
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I think he fell, but it makes no difference to me. I do enjoy seeing the Giants lose, because I can't stand all the G-men fans here in "Nashville".
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Subject: Re: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Fri 14 Oct 2011, 4:09 am
I'm not trying to make it about one call, Terry, I'm saying that if the Giants were so good, they should have blown out the Cards but the fact is one call saved the game for them. That's all I'm saying, Powell is trying to make it something else like always.
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Subject: Re: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Fri 14 Oct 2011, 6:42 am
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I'm not trying to make it about one call, Terry, I'm saying that if the Giants were so good, they should have blown out the Cards but the fact is one call saved the game for them. That's all I'm saying, Powell is trying to make it something else like always.
The GIANTS won the damn game plain and simple...it doesn't matter what fairweather fan jeffrey thinks (you don't even believe in your own team mayne, shut the fuck up..lol)...it has been entered into the books as a victory for the New York FOOTBALL Giants.....you're really not trying to say anything as usual, you're just mumbling like Charlie Brown's teacher again.....
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Subject: Re: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Fri 14 Oct 2011, 8:16 am
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I'm not trying to make it about one call, Terry, I'm saying that if the Giants were so good, they should have blown out the Cards but the fact is one call saved the game for them. That's all I'm saying, Powell is trying to make it something else like always.
They weren't saved by a call. Saying they were saved by a call implies that the call was incorrect. There is no proof that he did not give himself up. It was a judgement call my the ref. I do not think "he gave himself up", but i also don't want the game to be decided on a play where the Cards did nothing to force that play. I want the refs to let the players play and decide the outcome on the field as opposed to a technicality. The fact that people want to bitch and moan about that one call is stupid. Why don't you complain about the Cards D giving up those two scores? Why not compliment the Giants for rallying like that late in the game? The Giants took it to the Cards it's as simple as that.
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Subject: Re: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 Fri 14 Oct 2011, 8:19 am
Myestro wrote:
I think he fell, but it makes no difference to me. I do enjoy seeing the Giants lose, because I can't stand all the G-men fans here in "Nashville".
LOL, there actually is a large contigent of Giants fans(and other NY/NJ teams) here in Nashville.
Terry, buddy, missed my point entirely. I wasn't bitching and moaning last year when the Lions "beat" the bears but for one shitty call, was I? No. But if some douchebag Bears fan got all in my face about how they "beat Detroit's ass" or how the Bears were so good, when they weren't, I would point out they were one call from getting beat. Do you see the difference?
^^Your words buddy, and where did a douche bag Giants fan say that the Giants beat the Cards ass? You're the one who even brought up the Giants issues. Every team is potentially one call away from getting beat. The fact is you have no proof that the call in question was incorrect. You shouldn't say teams are "saved" or "lucky" when the call could be correct. It's not like the definitively benefitted from an incorrect call.
Also, good teams can and will go through rough spells during a season. It's normal. There are virtually no examples of teams beating every team they should beat and losing to teams they should lose to. That's why they actually play the games.
whoa buddies.. hol on dere horsies...I see your conflict avoidance... people try to discuss and you be like "WHOA WHOA WHOA STOP FREAKING DA OUT IT IS NOT BIGA DEAL!!!" sounding like a midwest mario...
I'm not riled up at all. Aside from being Powell and KJ's favorite team, i just don't get your hatred and animosity toward the G-Men. There is a lot of reason to have faith in them IMO.
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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Because, they've played poorly, and they're still in the thick of things for their division. it's not like any team has taken advantage of that division. Also, they have been one of the most injury plagued teams in the league. They will start to get healthy eventually. Osi is still playing his way into form. Tuck will be back eventually. Amukamara will help their secondary when he returns in a few weeks.
Again, I hate on the Eagles and nobody gives a shit because nobody on here has them as "their" team. I hate on the Giants and I must be an asshole. No, they are just vastly over-rated.
Again, Terry, I never incinuated the games don't need to be played. I'm saying, in 5 games, two bad teams they played, one almost beat them and one did beat them. That's it. That's my justification for not having faith in them. Take it or leave it. No need to read all into it.
The Packers had injuries out the ass last year and yet somehow won the Super Bowl. I'm calling it how I see it, you're entitled to disagree.
And SRP, I wasn't clicking save. Damn.
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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In the first 5 games in the 1994 season, the 49ers were blown out by the 7-9 Philadelphia Eagles, and they lost to the 9-7 Chiefs. Teams that finish 13-3 while on their way to a Superbowl title should not lose to a 9-7 team. They should also not get blown out by a team that did not even make the playoffs, right?
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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In the first 5 games in the 1994 season, the 49ers were blown out by the 7-9 Philadelphia Eagles, and they lost to the 9-7 Chiefs. Teams that finish 13-3 while on their way to a Superbowl title should not lose to a 9-7 team. They should also not get blown out by a team that did not even make the playoffs, right?
That's hindsight though... every criticism of the giants is just as valid (probably more valid) than any optimism based on unknowns.
Also, the Cowboys won the Superbowl after starting the season 0-2(which by default means they could not be better than 3-2 after 5 games). I know Emmitt Smith held out, but the fact is that there is no difference between a player holding out and a player being injured. Either way, they are not on the field to help their team. Tuck is that important to their run defense.
In the first 5 games in the 1994 season, the 49ers were blown out by the 7-9 Philadelphia Eagles, and they lost to the 9-7 Chiefs. Teams that finish 13-3 while on their way to a Superbowl title should not lose to a 9-7 team. They should also not get blown out by a team that did not even make the playoffs, right?
That's hindsight though... every criticism of the giants is just as valid (probably more valid) than any optimism based on unknowns.
I'm not saying that certain crticisms at this very moment are not valid. Their Run D does need to improve(Tuck being out hurts, but he will be back). Their Run D is why they lost to the Seahawks and why they almost lost to Arizona. My point proves that great teams lose to bad teams. It's not fair to judge the Giants more harshly because they lost to a team that is not held in high regard. Until the season is over, you have no idea if the giants are bad team.
But I do have an idea of how they are playing right now, and that's shitty. Also, I don't see the Cards or the Seahawks finishing with 7 wins, but that also remains to be seen. By this logic, you can't say anything about any team until the season is over, and then why would we have this thread in the first place?
Those criticsms were just as valid then as they are now, but the 9ers and Cowboys improved, we'll see if the Giants do. ALSO, comparing the Giants to those two teams should be against the laws of physics.
But I do have an idea of how they are playing right now, and that's shitty. Also, I don't see the Cards or the Seahawks finishing with 7 wins, but that also remains to be seen. By this logic, you can't say anything about any team until the season is over, and then why would we have this thread in the first place?
Those criticsms were just as valid then as they are now, but the 9ers and Cowboys improved, we'll see if the Giants do. ALSO, comparing the Giants to those two teams should be against the laws of physics.
You can say whatever you want. If you think 5 games is enough to judge a team, so be it. I don't think it's a big enough sample size to judge a team.
You specifically singled out the Giants. You said you don't understand why people still have faith in the Giants. Why just the giants? I noticed you didn't say anything about the Cowboys though, right? The Giants have a better record(partly due to the bye week). Both teams lost to a team with a 2-3 record and both teams lost to teams leading their division.
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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I'm not sure how you would even say the Cowboys are playing better. The Giants average more points per game than the Cowboys, and their +/- on turnovers is better than the Cowboys, and the Giants have done this without Osi and Tuck. The Cowboys have more turnovers than the Giants while playing 1 less game. The Giants are +2 on turnovers. The Cowboys are -4. I don't know about you, but those 2 numbers are huge in my book. I'll give you the lions being better than the Redskins, but right now, i don't see The Jets as a better team than the Seahawks. I'm quite confident the Jets will be better by the end of the year, but my opinions of the jaets right now are still valid, right?
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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I'm not sure how you would even say the Cowboys are playing better. The Giants average more points per game than the Cowboys, and their +/- on turnovers is better than the Cowboys, and the Giants have done this without Osi and Tuck. The Cowboys have more turnovers than the Giants while playing 1 less game. The Giants are +2 on turnovers. The Cowboys are -4. I don't know about you, but those 2 numbers are huge in my book. I'll give you the lions being better than the Redskins, but right now, i don't see The Jets as a better team than the Seahawks. I'm quite confident the Jets will be better by the end of the year, but my opinions of the jaets right now are still valid, right?
I'm not sure how you would even say the Cowboys are playing better. The Giants average more points per game than the Cowboys, and their +/- on turnovers is better than the Cowboys, and the Giants have done this without Osi and Tuck. The Cowboys have more turnovers than the Giants while playing 1 less game. The Giants are +2 on turnovers. The Cowboys are -4. I don't know about you, but those 2 numbers are huge in my book. I'll give you the lions being better than the Redskins, but right now, i don't see The Jets as a better team than the Seahawks. I'm quite confident the Jets will be better by the end of the year, but my opinions of the jaets right now are still valid, right?
Terry, read better, buddy. I said the same shit about the Eagles.
No, i saw that too. I'm just trying to understand why you don't make the same statements about other teams(in this case the Cowboys) in positions worse than the Giants.
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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But you are using your logic. You can't say the Giants WILL get better in the future based on your predictions, but then judge the Jets on how you feel they've played now. You gotta stay consistent. If we're judging teams on how they play now then that's what we do, if you're judging them on how you feel they are overall then stay consistent.
As the Cowboys have played better teams, it makes sense the Giants have score more against lesser teams. Also, throw out two horrible games by romo and the TO ratio isn't so bad. We're getting Scandrick and Austin back too, you don't seem to take that into account in your magic eightball predictions.
"every criticism of the giants is just as valid (probably more valid) than any optimism based on unknowns."
I am consistent. I was making a point out of your stance. How do you know one particular 2-3 team is better than another 2-3 team when you take out any optimism based on unknowns? It was my point all along that an overview of a team after 5 games was flawed. You said it was valid.
As you said, Romo has had 2 horrible games. How are you to know he won't average 2 horrible games out of every four games the rest of the year? Also, you had a healthy Austin in your loss to the Jets, but i guess an injured Dez offsets that. Either way, you know when fully healthy the Cowboys are a better team than they have shown so far. You should also know that a healthy Giants team is better than they have played. Even having said that, the giants are only a half game out of first in their division, and the Cowboys 1 game out of first. Both teams have plenty of optimism.
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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I know based on what I see. I am impressed more by how I see teams perform in those five games which is how I assess which ones are better. Frankly, I am more impressed by a team barely losing to the jets and lions than I am by a team barely beating the cards and losing to the seahawks, simple as that.
Myestro Dungeon Master
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I think he fell, but it makes no difference to me. I do enjoy seeing the Giants lose, because I can't stand all the G-men fans here in "Nashville".
LOL, there actually is a large contigent of Giants fans(and other NY/NJ teams) here in Nashville.
Here too, obviously. I just said that because Powell doesn't consider me east coast, saying I'm in Nashville.
There's lots of Cowboys, Pats and Packers fans here also. Frontrunners and whatnot. And for some reason there's a TON of Dolphins fans round these parts. I guess someone has to counteract all the Buffalo fans.
SyRuP Sippa What's NXET?
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It is true that the Cowboys have lost close games. It is also true that they have only won close games. Their margin of victory is only 2.5 points per game. The Giants margin of victory is a little over 9 points a game. What this tells me is that the Cowboys do not know how to finish. I'm impressed with teams that know how to finish.
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against... how? st. louis and philadelphia? and the cardinals? real impressive indeed. They are barely hitting the average there with that margin of victory...lol
Subject: N.F.L. Predictions Week 6 
Thu 13 Oct 2011, 9:40 am
