Worst Attempts At Crossover...the KRS Chronicles

Crazy Town Feat KRS One-B Boy 2000



R.E.M. feat KRS One-Radio Song



More To Come...

Shaq feat KRS (and others...)



Goldie feat KRS

You forgot Rapture remix featuring KRS and P.Diddy

KRS is such a hypocrticial sell out wanna be. He could never be popular no matter how hard he tries so he turns around and criticizes those that are popular. SMH.

Good point Trotter, there's also a Sugar Ray song (Live And Direct) I would loved to have included but couldn't find anywhere.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

KRS is such a hypocrticial sell out wanna be. He could never be popular no matter how hard he tries so he turns around and criticizes those that are popular. SMH.

Clancey is such a hypocritcial wanna-be, His rap taste could NEVER be respected no matter how hard he tried so he turns around and criticizes other people's rap tastes. SMH.

Get a life KJ

I responded to the thread with facts, don't spread your bullshit and female emotions across the whole forum.

The only fact is that you fail to see how great KRS is. Everybody except YOU respects him, so STFU!

No bitch, the fact is that here we have conclusive proof of your hero being a sellout WANNABE because he was never good enough to actually crossover and being the fan boy bitch you are you REFUSE to address these OBVIOUS contradictions in his career and instead attempt to talk shit and divert the attention away from it.

It's not working - how do you - the biggest KRS ONE fan boy there is - explain these lame as fuck songs that are OBVIOUS crossover attempts?

I think the "Rapture" remix with Diddy was a clear attempt at commercial relevance by KRS-One. These other examples, not so much. In these other cases, they are probably all instances where these artists sought him out, and asked him to contribute to their work. That's not the same as him seeking out someone for their fame, and getting them on his album or single. I'm not saying he's not a hypocrite, and extremely annoying at times with his whole attitude, but I don't think these are good examples of that.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

No bitch, the fact is that here we have conclusive proof of your hero being a sellout WANNABE because he was never good enough to actually crossover and being the fan boy bitch you are you REFUSE to address these OBVIOUS contradictions in his career and instead attempt to talk shit and divert the attention away from it.

It's not working - how do you - the biggest KRS ONE fan boy there is - explain these lame as fuck songs that are OBVIOUS crossover attempts?

Truth is, virtually EVERYONE on this forum except YOU has KRS on their GOAT list. As far as "sellout songs" go. KRS doesn't need to validate to your faggot ass because you don't like anybody from NYC that's rhymed pre-Wu Tang anyway.

KRS never cared about crossing over. If he did, he would have done so when his career started. Instead, he carved his niche being the Teacher of Hip Hop. Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everybody....including and ESPECIALLY ignorant motherfuckers who don't respect REAL hip hop.

And to Jason. It was DIDDY who sought out KRS-One because he always wanted to work with him. Not the other way around.

smddd....kj is beyond hope

Yes, Diddy sought out KRS to be featured on KRS' remix.

Dude, there was no way KRS ever was or ever will be a crossover success. Not today, not yesterday, and not 20 years ago when he was still relevant. Good groups like Public Enemy crossed over with out even trying. Back then and even now, KRS was a played out cliche for simpletons needing generic positive messages spoon fed them. That's ALL KRS can do. Anytime he has tried to do different he failed miserably.

And STILL you refuse to address those songs. Jason addressed them. I don't agree with his opinion as an artist has the right to refuse a request and should if it goes against their stance, but he addressed. You still skirt the issue, I guess it's cause you wear one too bitch.

So KRS was supposed to be like "No Diddy, I don't wanna work with you because people like Clancey who were never fans of mine to begin with will think I'm a sellout?" Get the fuck outta here!

Personally, I never had a problem with the remix. Sure, it paled in comparison to the original HOWEVER his street cred or place in hip hop has NEVER been questioned.

Your opinion of KRS means absolutely NOTHING. Go back to getting your shit pushed in by your boyfriend Steve.

The point is you and all the other KRS-ONE fan boys like to bitch and moan about other rappers selling out, and nelly being commercial, and talking about real hip-hop and you are nothing but a big fucking hypocrite just like KRS because he TRIED just like anyone else who wants money and to sell out has tried but the difference is he FAILED miserably, otherwise he'd be making bubble gum pop songs like everyone else.

You can live in your fantasy world and make exceptions for your long lost daddy KRS-ONE all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that he is a hypocrite, no different than any other rapper, and you ignore this because you like his lame message.

It's never been questioned, because the 15 people under the age of 40 who know who he is post here. *This is your conscience speaking* you should probably shut up now. Oh wait. I have a better idea. Make some idiotic insult attempt, and type a bunch of caps. we could have one of those bobbing birds type the same shit you do.

Damn right I love his message. He's one of the greatest rappers of all time. He's better than 99.9% of the MC's you listen to.

Steve wrote:

It's never been questioned, because the 15 people under the age of 40 who know who he is post here. *This is your conscience speaking* you should probably shut up now. Oh wait. I have a better idea. Make some idiotic insult attempt, and type a bunch of caps. we could have one of those bobbing birds type the same shit you do.

**This is YOUR conscience speaking** Time for your PROZAC!

KJ Styles wrote:

Steve wrote:

It's never been questioned, because the 15 people under the age of 40 who know who he is post here. *This is your conscience speaking* you should probably shut up now. Oh wait. I have a better idea. Make some idiotic insult attempt, and type a bunch of caps. we could have one of those bobbing birds type the same shit you do.

**This is YOUR conscience speaking** Time for your PROZAC!

LMAO

I don't see why it's so hard to admit that KRS has done some questionable stuff in his career. He's a favorite of mine, but a lesser known talent would be blasted for some of his actions. It seems to be the same people who defend Nas' hypocritical actions. He's got loads of talent, but call a spade a spade.

In my opinion KRS really haven't done anything pop-boppery except that Diddy remix and thats not even really that bad. He did do a Nike commercial but that's nothing.

These links don't make KRS a sellout but I can see "worst attempts to crossover" with some. But why can't he do a song with who ever the fuck he wants? Stop being elitist pussies, gotdamn.

I didn't say "sellout" I said worst attempts at crossover.

And like it or not, SRP has a point about KRS being able to say "no" to whatever he wants to if he feels like his artistic integrity is in question.

KRob86 wrote:

These links don't make KRS a sellout but I can see "worst attempts to crossover" with some. But why can't he do a song with who ever the fuck he wants? Stop being elitist pussies, gotdamn.

It's quite simple. An artist can not stand for something, and then do the opposite. It has nothing to do with being an elitist. Nas takes it upon himself to release an album called HHID, and then he does a song with Rick Ross. Those two things contradict one another. This was the exact type reaction that i was talking about earlier.

I think what Terry is saying he may not be a sellout, but he's damned sure a hypocrite.

T. Myers wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

These links don't make KRS a sellout but I can see "worst attempts to crossover" with some. But why can't he do a song with who ever the fuck he wants? Stop being elitist pussies, gotdamn.

It's quite simple. An artist can not stand for something, and then do the opposite. It has nothing to do with being an elitist. Nas takes it upon himself to release an album called HHID, and then he does a song with Rick Ross. Those two things contradict one another. This was the exact type reaction that i was talking about earlier.

Terry you ever thought maybe Nas does not look at Ross that way? Or maybe Ross reached out to him and Nas looked at it as a chance to reach an audience he may not can own his own? Nothing wrong with that, some look at Ross as a credibile rapper. Now if he does a song with Soulja Boys and they are dancing and shit that's sell out to me.

So you're saying it's okay to be a corrections officer gangster rapper? And that it's okay for hip hop's "messiah" to record with some one who's so blatantly a liar?

KRob86 wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

These links don't make KRS a sellout but I can see "worst attempts to crossover" with some. But why can't he do a song with who ever the fuck he wants? Stop being elitist pussies, gotdamn.

It's quite simple. An artist can not stand for something, and then do the opposite. It has nothing to do with being an elitist. Nas takes it upon himself to release an album called HHID, and then he does a song with Rick Ross. Those two things contradict one another. This was the exact type reaction that i was talking about earlier.

Terry you ever thought maybe Nas does not look at Ross that way? Or maybe Ross reached out to him and Nas looked at it as a chance to reach an audience he may not can own his own? Nothing wrong with that, some look at Ross as a credibile rapper. Now if he does a song with Soulja Boys and they are dancing and shit that's sell out to me.

Yeah, Nas MAY actually like Rick Ross. i can't speak to his musical tastes, but perception is reality. The Perception is that Rick Ross is one of the dudes killing hip hip, and Nas should know better when he puts himself out there. IMO, it was nothing more than a way to make money for both artists. Obviously, i still hold Nas and KRS One in high regard, but i'm not afraid to admit they have done some stuff they should be ashamed for. I just don't get why some fans try to rationalize the choices of their favorite mc's.

Because I understand they are human and like us they do questionable shit at times.

And Jeff no it is not okay to be fake and I never liked Ross but after that I totally do not respect him. And I admit it looks shaky for Nas to record with but we do not know the true motives.

KRob86 wrote:

Because I understand they are human and like us they do questionable shit at times.

And Jeff no it is not okay to be fake and I never liked Ross but after that I totally do not respect him. And I admit it looks shaky for Nas to record with but we do not know the true motives.

yeah, I'm not holding it against them. I know people do things for various reasons, but it seems like people try to gloss over those instances. it's ok to admit it.

I understand what you're saying Kev, and I truthfully have lost a LOT of respect for Nas since HHID. Looking back over his career I've glossed over his inconsistencies and unlike Pac (his new idol, apparently) Nas never seems to embrace his contradictions, he seems to act like they're not there. Please notice Kev I'm not tryin to take shots at you, just at the attitude people seem to have about their favorite artists' infallibility.

Seriously though. Anybody that's criticizing an artist for collaborating with another is crazy. What it all comes down to is dollars and cents. If it don't make dollars, then it don't make sense.

I can't think of ONE mainstream artist who hasn't done a song with someone questionable. I personally don't care about that shit. I'm not gonna stop diggin an MC I like because they did ONE song with someone I dislike. Anybody that does that, really wasn't a big fan of the artist to begin with as far as I'm concerned.

Nobody said they weren't fans anymore, KJ, just that they lost respect for said artist

KJ Styles wrote:

Seriously though. Anybody that's criticizing an artist for collaborating with another is crazy. What it all comes down to is dollars and cents. If it don't make dollars, then it don't make sense.

I can't think of ONE mainstream artist who hasn't done a song with someone questionable. I personally don't care about that shit. I'm not gonna stop diggin an MC I like because they did ONE song with someone I dislike. Anybody that does that, really wasn't a big fan of the artist to begin with as far as I'm concerned.

No one is expecting you to dislike Nas or anyone else that does that stuff. Just don't pretend like it doesn't exist just because Nas or KRS are favorites.

1. Did Nas make an album titled HHID?

2. In your opinion, is Rick Ross responsible for the hip hop's decline?

3. Did Nas do a song with Rick Ross?

All of that causes Nas to lose credibility.

I just say don't talk shit about a rapper you consider a sell out or too commercial cause your favorites are trying to do the same shit.

That's all this is about. Open people's eyes, but they stick in that tunnel vision.

Well, even if those guys didn't lose cred for that, none of the above artists made an album called Hip Hop Is Dead

Shaun wrote:

Well, even if those guys didn't lose cred for that, none of the above artists made an album called Hip Hop Is Dead

That song that he did with Ross is making more noise in this forum than it did in the media, LOL.

I think all of those artists need to be questioned for their crossover attempts, but IMO, Nas is a different scenario. He took it upon himself to carry the torch for "real hip hop", and then he did a song with someone who is not considered to be "real hip hop".

So after all the work Nas has put in thru his career one song with Ross he loses some credibility? I mean what part of the game is this. I always hate when we take one or two flwas and try to blow it up to something to bring down said artist. When we know they have done more good than bad that is what should matter.

MLK use to cheat on Mrs King but guess what he's still great.

N3RO I have a question??

Why are you specifically targeting Kris here??

Are you calling him a sell-out??

Are you saying that he's wack??

I still see a legend when I hear him emcee, these lame examples are worthless in the grand scheme of his career...very small in a large career of dopeness

not sure where your going here as usual but I'm sure you'll be more than willing to explain right?? lol

KRob86 wrote:

So after all the work Nas has put in thru his career one song with Ross he loses some credibility? I mean what part of the game is this. I always hate when we take one or two flaws and try to blow it up to something to bring down said artist. When we know they have done more good than bad that is what should matter.

Co-Sign!!!

Powell, I wasn't making any specific attempt to hate on KRS or anything like that. I'm certainly not taking anything away from the man's talent, as he's obviously got it. My only point here is that everybody makes questionable moves. The double standard here (and I'm not so much going at you, Powell) is that it seems like people say this person did this and that person did that blah blah blah but forget that Nas and KRS One (who both have put themselves in the position they're in as far as "carrying the torch") do the same shit Jay-Z does when it comes to trying to get record sales. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT EXCEPT THAT THESE PARTICULAR PEOPLE (OR SOMETIMES THEIR FANS) ACT LIKE THEY'RE INFALLIBLE. KRS puts himself in the position for scrutiny by talking about others and holding them to a certain standard but then he does shit like this. Point being, I'm not saying it takes away a person's legacy, I'm just saying I have a hard time taking dude seriously when he talks about "real hip hop" when he does shit like this.

You follow what I'm saying Kev? KJ? I'm not taking away from a person's legacy, I'm saying that maybe dudes need to look in the mirror and not be so goddamn judgemental about cats like 50 Cent, etc. How are you gonna talk about hip hop is dead or whatever, when you're sitting at the table waiting for a piece of cake, too. It's bullshit.

MLK wasn't a direct crusader of fidelity in marriages. So his contradiction is a moral one, but very different from a rapper like nas or krs saying one thing, taking a holier than thou attitude about it, and then contradicting their own stance when convenient.

Ahh SRP MLK was a moral crusader remember? Don't try to dowplay that fact to make your point valid.

And I got/get what you were saying Jeff.

KRob86 wrote:

So after all the work Nas has put in thru his career one song with Ross he loses some credibility? I mean what part of the game is this. I always hate when we take one or two flwas and try to blow it up to something to bring down said artist. When we know they have done more good than bad that is what should matter.

MLK use to cheat on Mrs King but guess what he's still great.

so, If a person was outspoken against drinking and driving and they got a DUI, would they still be credible?

Wow Terry that is an extreme but yes they can be it depends on their body of work and how they bounce back. It will tarnish their rep so I see where you are going but is Nas really doing DUI's to hip hop?

N3R0 of 0nslaught3r wrote:

Powell, I wasn't making any specific attempt to hate on KRS or anything like that.

lol...have you read the title of this thread?

Oh Norf, that wasn't fair. I'm not "hating". Hate usually means I'm either jealous of his success or blatantly ignoring factual evidence of his talents. I'm doing neither, I'm just pointing out some things that are contradictory of what dude says, and I don't need validation in my opinion, just pointing this out to some people that like to throw the sellout card out there.

When you preach about artistic integrity, I expect you to have artistic integrity. AGAIN, this isn't taking away from the man's legacy, just pointing out that sometimes he talks the talk without walkin the walk. I hold nothing against him for trying to make a buck, shit, I can relate. I'm just saying that if you're going to act like you're going against the grain you damn well better be goin against the grain.

He was a reverend, so, yeah, he was...


That's implicit in his position as reverend, but what he stood for in the civil rights movement was not fidelity. So try again.


And N3ro, no use talking to Norf, he comes in with his pre-conceptions and assumptions about the thread, the people who made it, the intent, etc. and he sticks with them. Funny coming from a person who always gets pissy when people assume things about him.