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PostSubject: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeTue 11 Aug 2009, 7:31 pm

I'm not a weed smoker, but for those of you who are, here's some good news for you all.


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Previous articles compared two marijuana legalization initiatives filed in California and discussed the California initiative process and the relationship of initiatives to laws passed by the state legislature. One of these initiatives has been amended and a third filed.

The newest addition to California's marijuana legalization initiatives is the Common Sense Act of 2010 by Common Sense California.

This initiative, which was filed 4 Aug 09, repeals marijuana prohibition in California, gives the legislature a year to pass laws to regulate and tax marijuana, and calls for California members of Congress to work to remove cannabis from the Federal Schedule of Controlled Substances.

On the same day, 4 Aug 09, amendments to the Regulate, Control and Tax Act of 2010 (ROT 2010) were filed with the Attorney General. Section 2, B. Purposes. Item 2 now reads, "Regulate cannabis like we do alcohol; Allow adults to possess and consume small amounts of cannabis." The phrase "21 years of age and older" has been removed. However, this will probably have no impact as the phrase "21 years of age or older" still appears twice in the document and the phrase "21 years of age" appears seven times.

Also under Section 2., B. Purposes; Items 7 and 8 have the following appended, "except as permitted under Health and Safety Section 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9." Item 7 prohibits the sales of cannabis in cities that do not enact a tax on it. Item 8 authorizes strict control over the cultivation, distribution and sales in cities that do enact taxes on cannabis. It also authorizes cities to limit how much can be bought and sold.

Appending the phrase, "except as permitted under Health and Safety Section 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9" to these items explicitly exempts California's medical marijuana statutes, patients, and providers or caregivers from the provisions of ROT 2010, though it should be noted that California's Medical Marijuana Program ends with Health & Safety Code §11362.83 and there are no codes between §11362.83 and §11362.9.

While this phrase is not repeated in the subsequent Section 3., C. Intent, which explicitly lists the statutes to be affected and those not affected by ROT 2010, it removes much of the concern previously expressed about any potential impact this law could have on medical marijuana patients and/or the Compassionate Use Act of 1996. Most notably, it exempts medical marijuana from the taxing requirements. It is to the credit of Oaksterdam U and Richard Lee that this change was made in a timely manner.

However, §11300(c) which prohibits consumption in public and in the presence of children remains unchanged. Current California law has no prohibition on medical consumption of marijuana in the presence of children and criminalizes the medical smoking of cannabis only where smoking cigarettes is prohibited. While medical marijuana patients appear to be explicitly exempted from this prohibition on consumption in the presence of children and/or in public, it could prove problematic in practice. Currently, "lowest priority" ordinances which prohibit recreational consumption in public are being used to harass medical patients.

A prohibition on consumption in public by medical patients will have the effect of making them housebound. Many cannot easily go without medicating for the time it takes to visit a doctor, buy groceries, have dinner, or go to a movie.

Also, §11304(a) remains unchanged. This section states that nothing in ROT 2010 shall "affect, amend, or limit any statute that ... penalizes bringing cannabis to a school enrolling students in any grade kindergarten through 12, inclusive." This could likewise prove problematic for children and teenagers who are medical marijuana patients, notwithstanding the exemption of current California marijuana statutes previously cited.

It should be noted that §11304(c) or ROT 2010 prohibits discrimination for use, consumption, sales, distribution, and cultivation of cannabis.

In short, the amendments to ROT 2010 amount to appending the phrase, "except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9" to items 7 and 8 under Purposes.

Of the three initiatives to legalize marijuana filed with the Attorney General, ROT 2010 is the most likely to acquire the 433,971 valid signatures to qualify for the 2 Nov 10 ballot. The proponents will have a difficult job differentiating their proposals in the minds of the public. Signature validation could prove to be a nightmare. Will most people who support marijuana legalization end up signing the same petition duplicate times through confusion and a desire to see all proposals on the ballot?

The Tax, Regulate and Control Cannabis Act of 2010 (THC 2010) is the most far-reaching of the three initiatives as it legalizes marijuana, grants retroactive amnesty to California marijuana prisoners, decriminalizes hemp, and explicitly protects medical marijuana patients including children.

Common Sense 2010 is the least far-reaching. While, upon voter approval, it will lift the prohibition of marijuana, it leaves taxing and regulating up to the legislature and gives them one year to do it.

THC 2010 prohibits any community from banning sales of marijuana, while ROT 2010 explicitly provides for such bans. THC 2010 levies a $50 per ounce tax on recreational marijuana, while ROT 2010 specifies no amount but encourages taxation and licensing "without limitation".

Of the three, only THC 2010 cannot be amended by the legislature without approval by the voters. ROT 2010 explicitly allows amendment without approval by the people, and this could prove problematic once the pharmaceutical lobby gets to work on California elected officials. While Common Sense 2010 repeals the prohibition of marijuana at the state level, it enacts no law but rather gives the state legislature a year to do so.

It now appears that none of the proposed initiatives to legalize marijuana in California can be used to nullify or amend current California medical marijuana law.

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PostSubject: Re: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeTue 11 Aug 2009, 7:35 pm

WOW! That's quite the start. I really hope they go through. I can't wait to see how it'll change things, especially for this country. Not only that, from what I understand, California is so broke right now that they are handing out "IOU's" . I'm sure legalising it will bring in quite the income stream for the state, plus it'll open up room for new kinds of businesses (coffee shops, anyone?) If they decide to do that, I might be willing to move to Cali to start up a joint (pun intended) venture of some sort.
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I don't smoke weed either, but regulating and taxing marijuana is a good idea in my opinion, the whole country should do it. Talk about revenue.
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The problem becomes those imprisoned due to marijuana related infractions and the massive tax revenue that generates; it will be a slow path on the road to legalization and taxation.
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PostSubject: Re: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeTue 11 Aug 2009, 8:09 pm

Steve wrote:
The problem becomes those imprisoned due to marijuana related infractions and the massive tax revenue that generates; it will be a slow path on the road to legalization and taxation.

That's very true, but maybe, just maybe the rest of the country would see what California is doing, and hopefully they'll focus on hard drugs like meth, heroin, and crack, and the crimes related to the use of these substances.

Maybe it could be wishful thinking on my part.
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PostSubject: Re: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeTue 11 Aug 2009, 11:59 pm

I hope they give it the old college try.

As far as those convicted of weed crimes, they may just have to eat it because it was the law of the land just like the booze runners of prohibition.
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PostSubject: Re: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeWed 21 Oct 2009, 6:53 am

Look what Barak did!
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The next step is to make it legal all across the country!
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PostSubject: Re: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeWed 21 Oct 2009, 7:15 am

every time i go back to San Diego to visit- a new dispensary pops up...their literally everywhere now..my brothers all have a card(lol) as with some of my cousins (have headaches? backaches? anxiety?...thats all it will take for some doctors...or slipping some cash).......Cali's almost there people....
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I can't read all that
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Dang! Trotter wrote:
I can't read all that

I'm with Trotter. I'm lazy. Wait...no...I'm high off the weed they are referring to.
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PostSubject: Re: California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana   California has three initiatives filed to legalize marijuana Icon_minitimeWed 21 Oct 2009, 7:39 pm

read my shit...i be from cali
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Dang! Trotter wrote:
I can't read all that

Lazy mofos...hahaa
Anyway, long story short, he made it so the Fed will no longer raid the dispensaries. The medical marijuana patients are no longer a priority, nor are the dispensaries they use to get their medicine.

I hope he makes it legal across the country.
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