| How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 12:30 am | |
| Since people are talking this up - what do you think it will sell? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 12:30 am | |
| My vote was for 20K-30K... |
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Laced With Slang Barack O-Donna
Posts : 9848 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 36 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 3:27 am | |
| 60-80k, i dont think its unreasonable for thinking this will do at least or near Blackout 2 numbers | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 8:19 am | |
| 30-40k..it has no real promotion and it took forever to drop. |
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T. Myers One Of A Kind
Posts : 10879 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 8:24 am | |
| - Slang Editorial wrote:
- 60-80k, i dont think its unreasonable for thinking this will do at least or near Blackout 2 numbers
I think you're living in a world of make believe. Rae has nowhere near the fan base of Method Man and Redman. | |
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Esco It Takes A Nation of 1000s?
Posts : 1989 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 33 Location : South GA
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 8:33 am | |
| Personally I haven't seen any promotion,but then again I don't watch MTV or BET etc. For something Rae was trying to make sure got promoted heavily there's really promotion. Its hard to tell but I'd say around 80k. | |
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Laced With Slang Barack O-Donna
Posts : 9848 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 36 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 10:30 am | |
| - T. Myers wrote:
- Slang Editorial wrote:
- 60-80k, i dont think its unreasonable for thinking this will do at least or near Blackout 2 numbers
I think you're living in a world of make believe. Rae has nowhere near the fan base of Method Man and Redman. we'll see 8 Diagrams sold almost 70k week one and 150k total through week 7. This album by namesake alone may generate around that number. And its not Rae's fanbase really, its Wu-Tang's. | |
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Half Paragraphs Relentless
Posts : 6865 Join date : 2009-06-12 Age : 247 Location : A Clean, Well-Lighted Place
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 10:38 am | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 1:46 pm | |
| thats a stupid argument since mef is wu too genius |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:27 pm | |
| If we're talking first week sales, I'll say it does about 100-150K.
Total will be about 1.5-2 million. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:33 pm | |
| LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eminem STILL hasn't sold 1.3 million. You're nuts dude! |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:36 pm | |
| - Steve wrote:
- LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eminem STILL hasn't sold 1.3 million. You're nuts dude! I haven't been following the charts like that to be honest. Em hasn't sold 1.3?? WOW!! That's a sign of the times, and not in a good light either. |
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J. Harris Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 795 Join date : 2009-05-07 Age : 43 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:38 pm | |
| I think around 60 to 80K. I believe Rae will surprise the industry with this joint. This is the album fans have been waiting for, and it doesn't disappoint at all. Since the internet is the big thing nowadays. I think his promotion went fairly ok. TV outlets suck nowadays. If it sells well, then this will be a huge step forward for his label and most definitely Wu. Wu-Tang ain't going nowhere. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:38 pm | |
| yeah, i follow them every week, if Rae breaks 50k it will be a minor miracle. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:39 pm | |
| That would suck if he doesn't break 50K, because it's easily one of the best albums of the year. I've got it at 4.25 after one spin. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:46 pm | |
| Harris you're delusional. Put a sock in it. |
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J. Harris Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 795 Join date : 2009-05-07 Age : 43 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 2:54 pm | |
| If Tech's last collab album can sell over 20k in its first week, then Rae will probably do 3X as much. Tech doesn't even have the fans that Rae/Wu has. Rae's album will def fair well first week. | |
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Laced With Slang Barack O-Donna
Posts : 9848 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 36 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 5:42 pm | |
| - Steve wrote:
- thats a stupid argument since mef is wu too genius
sort of, but wu fans are more reluctant to buy a red and meth album on def jam then they are to buy a long anticipated follow up to one of the best albums in wu's catalog and in hip hop. | |
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J. Harris Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 795 Join date : 2009-05-07 Age : 43 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 8:03 pm | |
| "sort of, but wu fans are more reluctant to buy a red and meth album on def jam then they are to buy a long anticipated follow up to one of the best albums in wu's catalog and in hip hop."
Couldn't have said it better. And with that, I still say Rae has the potential to sell 65-100k in first week. Look at Jada. He sold 134k with no promo, and he doesn't half the fans Rae/Wu does. | |
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D.Powell NYC's Finest
Posts : 7631 Join date : 2009-05-11 Age : 103 Location : the back of a barn
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 8:29 pm | |
| - J. Harris wrote:
- "sort of, but wu fans are more reluctant to buy a red and meth album on def jam then they are to buy a long anticipated follow up to one of the best albums in wu's catalog and in hip hop."
Couldn't have said it better. And with that, I still say Rae has the potential to sell 65-100k in first week. Look at Jada. He sold 134k with no promo, and he doesn't half the fans Rae/Wu does. Jadakiss in 2009 has waaaaay more fans than Rae does easily, I don't think that's a fair comparison...in 1995 rae would've whupped his ass but not in 2009...I think Wu-Tang has a limited fan base as a whole as well...hip-hop artists with huge fan bases in 2009 include: Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, Drake, Kanye West, 50 Cent, Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, T-Pain, T.I., Dj Khaled, I mean these are some of the guys who in 2009 are guaranteed to sell...Wu-Tang isn't selling like those guys because the kids aren't checking for them like that...I think Cam'ron and Jim Jones (Dipset) sell waay more than Wu-Tang in 2009 easily.... this is some of the reasons why the game sucks hot lava right now....one of many reasons | |
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J. Harris Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 795 Join date : 2009-05-07 Age : 43 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 03 Sep 2009, 11:43 pm | |
| ".I think Cam'ron and Jim Jones (Dipset) sell waay more than Wu-Tang in 2009 easily...."
Come on Powell!! Red/Meth joint sold 50-55k first week man. Cam hit about 30k first week. See the difference.
As far as fanbase goes, and with the generation age group, I wouldn't doubt Jada has more of a fanbase. But, don't count Rae out. Cats have been waiting for this next chapter of OBFCL. The anticipation is high, plus the overall structure of the album is very cohesive. Rae did a good job of selecting producers (dilla, dre, rza) and features (jada, styles, sigel, of the rest of the wu). Plus, he has been touring extensively over the past few months to support this shit. I have no doubt this will do high numbers. I estimate easily 60-80k first week. Also, remember that Wu has a stronger fanbase worldwide. More of the sales will def come from foreign countries as well. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 04 Sep 2009, 12:00 am | |
| Harris... people won't know about the overall structure of the album and how good it is before they buy it and hear it |
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SkinnyTheFloridian Keep It 100
Posts : 178 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 35 Location : North Lauderdale, Florida
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 04 Sep 2009, 12:28 am | |
| T-Pain is an R&B singer technically not a rapper!...and DJ Khaleds bullshit albums which he throws a bunch of well known artists on n produces bout 1-2 beats do not usually sell too much. I say Rae sells around 80k total | |
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J. Harris Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 795 Join date : 2009-05-07 Age : 43 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 04 Sep 2009, 6:27 am | |
| "Harris... people won't know about the overall structure of the album and how good it is before they buy it and hear it"
You can practically download it now. I'm pretty sure most people who will buy the album have listened to it already. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 04 Sep 2009, 8:43 am | |
| - J. Harris wrote:
- "Harris... people won't know about the overall structure of the album and how good it is before they buy it and hear it"
You can practically download it now. I'm pretty sure most people who will buy the album have listened to it already. If that were the case we'd have more overall sales... |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 04 Sep 2009, 6:19 pm | |
| - J. Harris wrote:
- ".I think Cam'ron and Jim Jones (Dipset) sell waay more than Wu-Tang in 2009 easily...."
Come on Powell!! Red/Meth joint sold 50-55k first week man. Cam hit about 30k first week. See the difference.
As far as fanbase goes, and with the generation age group, I wouldn't doubt Jada has more of a fanbase. But, don't count Rae out. Cats have been waiting for this next chapter of OBFCL. The anticipation is high, plus the overall structure of the album is very cohesive. Rae did a good job of selecting producers (dilla, dre, rza) and features (jada, styles, sigel, of the rest of the wu). Plus, he has been touring extensively over the past few months to support this shit. I have no doubt this will do high numbers. I estimate easily 60-80k first week. Also, remember that Wu has a stronger fanbase worldwide. More of the sales will def come from foreign countries as well. I co-sign this. 60-80k sounds about right. If Jay-Z weren't releasing his album 3 days later, it would be higher. I still say Wu has a bigger overall fanbase than Jada. While Jada's first week sales were impressive, he really didn't have any viable hip-hop competition when his album came out, whereas Rae is up against the most successful hip-hop artist of the decade. |
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gametheory91 Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 771 Join date : 2009-05-29 Age : 32 Location : Where trunks knock a lot and weed spark a lot, GA
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 4:39 pm | |
| It has been the number 1 album on iTunes for 3 days now...just sayin..... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 4:48 pm | |
| good thing itunes doesnt count 4 sales, and bp3 isnt 4 sale yet |
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gametheory91 Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 771 Join date : 2009-05-29 Age : 32 Location : Where trunks knock a lot and weed spark a lot, GA
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 5:47 pm | |
| iTunes does to count for sales..... | |
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| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 5:58 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 5:58 pm | |
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gametheory91 Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 771 Join date : 2009-05-29 Age : 32 Location : Where trunks knock a lot and weed spark a lot, GA
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 6:14 pm | |
| show me a link where it says that | |
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gametheory91 Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 771 Join date : 2009-05-29 Age : 32 Location : Where trunks knock a lot and weed spark a lot, GA
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 6:34 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 7:01 pm | |
| lol you stupid fuck, suck my dick vernon.
anyway, DIGITAL SALES DO NOT COUNT towards anything but digital sales. billboard top 200? no digital sales there. any platinum album rating by the RIAA? no digital sales there. digital sales dont matter. they are reported as "non-traditional" and dont go into any figures. |
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Shaun I'm Ghetto Platinum
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| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 7:16 pm | |
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gametheory91 Hi, My Name Is!
Posts : 771 Join date : 2009-05-29 Age : 32 Location : Where trunks knock a lot and weed spark a lot, GA
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 7:23 pm | |
| Who said anything about Billboard 200? Not me. The title of this thread says "How much will OB4CL2 Sell"....I'm just sayin its sellin very well digitally. | |
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Laced With Slang Barack O-Donna
Posts : 9848 Join date : 2009-05-06 Age : 36 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 10:05 pm | |
| digital sales absolutely are included. smh for thinking not where have you been the last 5 years? you really think Em sold as much as he did in physical copies. LOL thats laughable, people only buy digital nowadays | |
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yOGi420™ Backwoods Burna, Mac & Murda
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| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Thu 10 Sep 2009, 10:47 pm | |
| - Slang Editorial wrote:
- digital sales absolutely are included. smh for thinking not where have you been the last 5 years? you really think Em sold as much as he did in physical copies. LOL thats laughable, people only buy digital nowadays
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 3:29 pm | |
| digital sales are not included morons. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 3:32 pm | |
| i mean seriously, how stupid are you? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 10:20 pm | |
| Well I found the definitive answer. Billboard reports nielson sales - directly from Nielson's site: Who reports sales to Nielsen SoundScan, and is there a list of reporting Retailers available? Nielsen SoundScan collects point-of-sales information from Retail, Mass Merchant, Independent Retail, Internet Retail sites, Venues, Mail Order and Digital Download providers. Due to confidentiality agreements with our information providers, we cannot supply a list of reporting stores or web sites. http://en-us.nielsen.com/etc/content/nielsen_dotcom/en_us/home/industries/media/entertainment.mbt.22396.RelatedLinks.20707.MediaPath.pdfFurther proof is the fact that Joe Buddens charted with his DIGITAL ONLY Halfway House last year - though the CD later saw a LIMITED physical release. So steve was wrong... he should apologize... but he won't... moron |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 10:21 pm | |
| until i see a true answer, i maintain my stance. if i see conclusive evidence proving otherwise i will apologize. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: How Much Will OB4CL2 Sell? Fri 11 Sep 2009, 10:24 pm | |
| Steve, you have a definitive answer. Nielson just stated it collects data from digital downloads when taking into account sales. I provided a link to their site... nothing more conclusive...we know you won't apologize... it's cool |
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