KJ and Powell - Nas and Jay-Z and Eminem are our generation not yours

So what, y'all born in 76 or whatever? That means you were 18-20 when they dropped their shit. Which means you were too old. They belong to the people who grew up on their music, and y'all can have y'alls crusty ass 80's, we don't want 'em.

Dang Steve how old are you? I thought you were around our age.

LMAO....2Pac is ALIVE!

I'm only kidding about the 80's, just trying to get a rise out of them. And I'm 28, but Powell and KJ seem to think that 5 or 6 years means I'm a different generation.

SMH, you're not THAT MUCH younger than me, but you act like it because you hate on the old school and that's lame. It's funny how Shaun, the YOUNGEST poster on the forum, has more respect for the old school than most cats here in their mid to late 20's, and certain cats with a bias towards Western and Southern gangsta rap.

Back in the 80's when hip-hop was starting out, you had mad classics coming out every year, nowadays you're lucky if you get one or two per year.

Also, you had those MC's along with Slick Rick, De La Soul, ATCQ, NWA, LL, G Rap, MC Lyte, Beastie Boys, and the like on mainstream radio. Today's mainstream radio features Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Rick Ross, Gucci Mane, Young Jeezy, Souljah Boi, and the like. You have a few good artists on the radio like Eminem and T.I. but for every one of those you've got ten wack MC's

Therefore.......

80's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>00's

Steve wrote:

I'm only kidding about the 80's, just trying to get a rise out of them. And I'm 28, but Powell and KJ seem to think that 5 or 6 years means I'm a different generation.

LOL, I posted my reply prior to reading this. I never said you were a different generation, but you act like it with the way you talk about the old school.

"It's funny how Shaun, the YOUNGEST poster on the forum, has more respect for the old school than most cats here in their mid to late 20's, and certain cats with a bias towards Western and Southern gangsta rap. "

I'm not the youngest . But, it's close (if you take away Gametheory)

I don't disagree, the 80's are superior in every way. But the 90's are the best son

Shaun wrote:

"It's funny how Shaun, the YOUNGEST poster on the forum, has more respect for the old school than most cats here in their mid to late 20's, and certain cats with a bias towards Western and Southern gangsta rap. "

I'm not the youngest . But, it's close (if you take away Gametheory)

LOL yeah ur right. But you're the youngest REGULAR poster. GT doesn't post as often as he used to.

Steve wrote:

I don't disagree, the 80's are superior in every way. But the 90's are the best son

Overall I agree, but the 80's are close.

i like new music.... liked the 80's releases when it was the 80's. 90's in the 90's, 0's in the 0's and now i get down with the 010's. but i don't like any of the radio/mtv bullshit artists for the most part.

Yogi, GK3, and to a lesser extent Norf are the only old timers I think actually peep new shit. Oh, and people I'll take recs from.

Just them, huh?

Old timers...I have no clue who or what you are, Kid Joe/Parker Lewis/non entity/persona non grata.

I am Marduk, herald of Nibiru...I'm as old as time itself.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Seventy-six, byitch

SMH.

Please tell me you don't honestly believe in that bullshit.

Jeff wrote:

SMH.

Please tell me you don't honestly believe in that bullshit.

Not specifically, but there is quite a bit of inexplicable anthropologic phenomena. And, with technology growing exponentially, even the human race is nearly capable of creating life.

Again, I wouldn't say I believe in it, but it is interesting to entertain the idea. And, its really the only theory that's even close to viable in explain a lot of ancient technology.

Everyone's entitled to believe whatever crazy nonsense they want, I suppose.

The only viable theory to explain a lot of ancient technology is that humans invented it, since there's not a single solid shred of evidence of anything else.

Well, how do you explain the achievements of ancient societies that are still beyond our present-day capabilities?

What achievements are beyond our present day capabilities?

No, some planet that just flies in and out of solar system and is rife with alien life and defies everything we know about physics is obviously the most logical explanation.

Machu Picchu, the pyramids, the map of Antarctica...

Really? The pyramids are easy to explain. And a map of Antarctica is all it takes to sway you?

You realize you sound as ridiculous as the people that believe in the shroud of turin, right?

I don't buy for a second that those achievements are beyond our modern capabilities, or that they couldn't have been achieved by earlier humans.

Those achievements aren't beyond the technology they had available at the time. OBVIOUSLY. Because they accomplished it.

The pyramids are easy to explain, huh? Well, you're alone in that. The pros are stumped...

And, the map of Antarctica's land mass is a complete mystery...

And, I never said what I believed. The fact is that these things, and many more, are currently inexplicable.

The pros? You mean the "scientists" on youtube? The cryptozoologists? The scientologists? Those guys are stumped? So they make up crazy ass theories?

You guys haven't looked too deeply into these things if you're not intrigued.

I minored in Anthropology because I'm intrigued by the subject, just not by outlandish, completely unsupported theories used to fill in the blanks. And these things aren't inexplicable.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080328104302.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/builders.html

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/pyramidworkforce.htm

You, sir, are fucking crazy. Especially that last article, which says that the more we learn about the pyramids the less of a work force it seems they needed. Believe what you want, but seriously, people like you are getting less and less kids vaccinated every year and that shit sickens me.

Jeff wrote:

The pros? You mean the "scientists" on youtube? The cryptozoologists? The scientologists? Those guys are stumped? So they make up crazy ass theories?

No, I mean college professors, anthropologists, archeologists. Basically, every human being except you.

Have I offended you or threatened you in some way?

I'm not offended, just disappointed at a clearly intelligent person's lack of common sense. How did you get so smart? Me, I don't have time to research stuff that I only have a basic grasp of. Somehow, you're an astronomist, physicist, historian, archealogist, etc? I doubt it brother. Take the scientists at their word. They've gotten us this far, haven't they?

Alright. What if everyone took flat-Earth scientists at their word? Information is always fringe until its established. Every idea that you believe and take for granted was, at one time, considered outlandish and quite impossible.

And, once again, I never said I believe in anything. I enjoy researching these things. When I get home I'll check out those links.

The current system of science means that ideas are constantly under peer review, and while it's not impossible that a legit challenge can come from outside the recognized community, it would have to have a very strong evidentiary basis, which this doesn't.

One thing I look at is whether the proponents of these theories focus on trying to poke holes and find gaps in accepted theories (and usually these attempts aren't even legitimate), or whether they present positive evidence that actually points toward their alternative idea. If they only do the former, their idea is not supportable. Intelligent design proponents are one clear example of this, they offer pseudo-scientific challenges to evolutionary theory while presenting zero testable hypotheses that would support ID, yet they want their ideas taught as science.

The building of the pyramids is not a flat earth idea.

The only basis for that argument is an idea at it's infancy. Basically those kind of remarks are spouted by people who pretend to be skeptical, but in reality are entirely too naive. Since the advent of "modern science" only ideas on the other end of the knowledge spectrum (if you will, the least developed technologies, newer physics proposals, etc) could be considered at the "flat earth" stage. Being open minded in terms of elementary scientific ideas is vastly over-rated.

Well, the current system of science leaves a void as to the explanations of ancient technological achievements.

Even if that were true, it isn't license to toss in whatever crazy theory you want.

Kid Joe wrote:

Well, the current system of science leaves a void as to the explanations of ancient technological achievements.

What are you looking for? Seriously? This is JUST like the people who say that velcro and compact discs were found on a spaceship inside Area 51. People invented that shit, so it's there. What more do you want? It's not like there's some secret city with a super computer that has a hologram of beyond the known universe.

You guys are taking this whole convo way to seriously. I find the mysteries fascinating, so I read whatever I can find on the matter. The Sumerian alien gods is an interesting angle an the unexplained.

If you want to read that stuff as fantasy or whatever, that's fine, but you claimed that it was the only close to viable theory to explain ancient technology, and that claim is bullshit through and through.

Explain Machu Picchu, and how those constructions were made without laser technology. Explain how a European mapmaker was aware of a land mass 10,000 years under ice hundreds of years before modern technology affirmed.

There are no explanations. So, yes, alien intervention is as good an option as any.

That's not how it works, you don't get to just fill in any explanation you want when there is a gap in knowledge.

Jason wrote:

That's not how it works, you don't get to just fill in any explanation you want when there is a gap in knowledge.

ppl do it on a daily basis, its called religon?

Exactly, that's why religion is bullshit.

Well there is millions of dollars at work to make contact with extra terrestrials, Jason. Maybe you should go public with your conclusive information...you could save a lot of people a lot of time and money.

Okay people, thanks for successfully ruining this topic. Make your own damn topic or log in to chat.