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Jason
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PostSubject: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSat 06 Jun 2009, 3:56 pm

I got bored today, so decided to see how the voting results would turn out if we used a point system. I decided to use 2 points for a top 50 vote, 1 point for a top 100, and -1 point for a neither vote. I don't know if that's the best way to do it, but it made the most sense to me, since a top 50 vote is really a top 100 vote also. I then divided by the number of votes, since that wasn't equal for each poll.

This only includes artists we've voted on here, since I don't have raw numbers from the old forum. I've included those even with a negative results, just to show how they all turned out. This definitely differs from the way we've been doing it. For examples, Paris made the top 100 list Kev has been maintaining, while Too Short didn't. But here, these results show Too Short had stronger voting than Paris.

Roots, the 1.9
Gang Starr 1.82
De La Soul 1.71
Ghostface Killah 1.71
Common 1.57
Masta Ace 1.56
Cypress Hill 1.52
Redman 1.52
EPMD 1.44
Pharoahe Monch/Organized Konfusion 1.41
DJ Quik 1.39
Talib Kweli 1.32
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony 1.29
Brand Nubian 1.26
UGK 1.21
Del tha Funkee Homosapien 1.17
Mobb Deep 1.12
Cee-Lo/Goodie Mob 1.11
Lord Finesse 1.06
Naughty By Nature/Treach 1
GZA 0.91
Beastie Boys 0.82
Big Pun 0.82
DMX 0.8
Kool Keith 0.72
Eightball & MJG 0.7
Busta Rhymes 0.68
Buckshot/Black Moon 0.64
MF Doom 0.59
Onyx/Stick Fingaz 0.57
Fresh Prince/Will Smith & DJ Jazzy Jeff 0.53
Too Short 0.52
Paris 0.5
Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five 0.47
Xzibit 0.47
AZ 0.43
E-40 0.43
Tech N9ne 0.41
Kurupt/Dogg Pound 0.38
Ludacris 0.37
Spice 1 0.32
K-Rino 0.3
Das EFX 0.24
Big L 0.2
Canibus 0.2
Mystikal 0.14
Royce Da 5'9 0.13
Salt N Pepa 0.11
Three 6 Mafia -0.05
LOX, the -0.13
Jadakiss -0.17
King Tee -0.23
Ras Kass -0.24
Master P/TRU -0.25
Murs -0.35
Mantronix -0.43
Just Ice -0.5
2 Live Crew -0.53


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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSat 06 Jun 2009, 4:30 pm

wow...definitely shows the forums biases.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSat 06 Jun 2009, 5:05 pm

I would have made neither 0 points. Both work, though
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 12:51 am

I'm not good at math so what the hell does these 1.?? numbers mean? It is all the votes added then divided to show what?
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 1:39 am

Wow three six mafia seriously got a fucking .05, that's RIDICULOUS.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 8:04 am

KRob86 wrote:
I'm not good at math so what the hell does these 1.?? numbers mean? It is all the votes added then divided to show what?

The points were added then divided by the number of votes, because the number of votes wasn't equal for each poll. So it's a way to correct for the disparate number of votes.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 9:53 am

Shon wrote:
I would have made neither 0 points. Both work, though

Then it would be like they didn't vote at all. -1 makes their vote matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 10:00 am

The numbers for the day 48 artists (and I'll add them in the big list):

Kurupt/Dogg Pound 0.38
K-Rino 0.3
Big L 0.2


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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 2:09 pm

"Then it would be like they didn't vote at all. -1 makes their vote matter."

Not true, because you're dividing the points by the number of voters. Either way, though
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeSun 07 Jun 2009, 2:18 pm

Shon wrote:
"Then it would be like they didn't vote at all. -1 makes their vote matter."

Not true, because you're dividing the points by the number of voters. Either way, though

Yeah, I didn't think about that.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeMon 08 Jun 2009, 10:07 am

Day 49:

Del tha Funkee Homosapien 1.17
Tech N9ne 0.41
Das EFX 0.24

...and the way we've been doing votes, Das EFX makes the top 100, and Tech N9ne doesn't, when clearly Tech has the stronger voting.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeTue 09 Jun 2009, 6:35 pm

Day 50:

Cee-Lo/Goodie Mob 1.11
LOX, the -0.13
Mantronix -0.43


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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeWed 10 Jun 2009, 2:36 pm

Day 51:

Big Pun 0.82
Onyx/Stick Fingaz 0.57
Murs -0.35
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeWed 10 Jun 2009, 2:59 pm

Jason are you going to put all this together when were finish? I still really don't get it but whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeWed 10 Jun 2009, 3:13 pm

I'll keep posting the results after each day of polls, but unless we redo the voting for the ones from the previous forum, it's not gonna be complete. These the artists that would need to be voted on again, to make this complete:

Rakim
LL Cool J
Outkast
Kool G Rap
KRS-One/BDP
Run DMC
Ice Cube
NWA
Public Enemy
2Pac
Big Daddy Kane
Scarface
Nas
A Tribe Called Quest
Jay-Z
Notorious BIG
Geto Boys
Wu Tang Clan
Pete Rock and CL Smooth
Enimem
Ice-T
MC Lyte
Snoop Dogg
Slick Rick
Heavy D

Since we already voted on them before, we could do a bunch of polls a day, for a couple days, and get them out of the way quickly. That's up to you though.

As for how this works, it basically just measures the relative strength of the votes. The numbers only mean anything in relation to each other, it's just to put the artists in order. So, The Roots are #1 so far, in the artists we've voted on here, because they have the highest number.
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PostSubject: Re: Greatest List with Point System   Greatest List with Point System Icon_minitimeThu 11 Jun 2009, 8:40 pm

Day 52:

Royce Da 5'9 0.13
Ras Kass -0.24
Master P/TRU -0.25
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