Eminem - Relapse

Thoughts now that it's leaked? On a couple listens, it seems pretty good to me. It's not up to SSLP or MMLP level, but it's a hell of a lot better than Encore, he's definitely bounced back somewhat.

So no accent for the whole record then?

It smashes encore. The 2 latest single's he released is better than anything I heard on encore by a mile. I'm listening to the Insane track right now.

Lord Emperor N3R0N0N wrote:

So no accent for the whole record then?

He has songs with it, and songs without it. Sometimes it's just on the hook. I think I'm already getting used to it.

MarcoPolo wrote:

It smashes encore. The 2 latest single's he released is better than anything I heard on encore by a mile. I'm listening to the Insane track right now.

Yes, this easily smashes Encore. It's a fitting come back. I'd say it's the 4th or 5th best Hip-Hop album I've heard this year.

Hmmmm I'm buying it regardless. No D12 or Obie features kinda fucked me up though.

Royce should have been on here...

That would have increased sales by 4x

Yeah what the fuck? The beef is squashed, right? They should do that Bad Meets Evil album now.

Eh, Bad Meets Evil would be 7 or 8 years too late. Wouldn't be like when they were at their best, and had pretty good chemistry. Their styles have grown further apart since then.

I respectfully disagree, I think they're both capable of meshing their styles once again. They're both incredible lyricists with the ability to adapt to any beat or style. It would work. And it's never too late for dope hip hop bro.

I think Royce has declined as a lyricist, in recent years so many of his verses have basically been run of the mill mixtape type of content. I do think there has been an uptick in the most recent stuff, so who knows. And Eminem is back from the lows of Encore, but he's not back up to MMLP level.

I think the two of them together would inspire one another to be better, and their chemistry would not be a problem either. It's like riding a bike.

Co-sign T. to a T.

I would buy that album. But I don't know how well it would work either, to be honest.

Really? I dunno man...I think it'd be dope as fuck.

"I think Royce has declined as a lyricist, in recent years so many of his verses have basically been run of the mill mixtape type of content."

Have you heard "The Album", or the two singles from his upcoming album?

Obviously not.

yea i was pissed to see that the rumored DJ Premier track "Keys to the City" wasnt on here but that was also rumored to have Royce on it so hopefully itll be onStreet Hop

ive still yet to listen to this i might wait and get it, not sure though...is it worth the $?

Street Hop will be classic, regarless

Shon wrote:

"I think Royce has declined as a lyricist, in recent years so many of his verses have basically been run of the mill mixtape type of content."

Have you heard "The Album", or the two singles from his upcoming album?

Yes, hence what I said about an uptick in his recent stuff. I'm not sold yet, we'll see how Street Hop is.

i went through like the first 7 songs and i stopped listening, that accent killed me, its unbearable.

Esco wrote:

i went through like the first 7 songs and i stopped listening, that accent killed me, its unbearable.

So did you make it to Medicine Ball, Stay Wide Awake, Beautiful, or Underground? If not give those songs a listen. They are tracks 10, 12, 17, and 20.

"Yes, hence what I said about an uptick in his recent stuff."

Sorry, I thought you switched back to Em with that statement

T. Myers wrote:

Esco wrote:

i went through like the first 7 songs and i stopped listening, that accent killed me, its unbearable.

So did you make it to Medicine Ball, Stay Wide Awake, Beautiful, or Underground? If not give those songs a listen. They are tracks 10, 12, 17, and 20.

No. Why are they good, but please, tell me they don't have that accent. Makes me feel like I'm listening to some arabic rapper.

give the whole album a listen.


the accent isn't bad at all. like i said this album is straight fire, aside from the lyrical content on a few tracks.

Steve wrote:

give the whole album a listen.


the accent isn't bad at all. like i said this album is straight fire, aside from the lyrical content on a few tracks.

Alright man, Its just that his whole new style makes me turn away from his music. I bumped Slim Shady LP today and i sat there thinking to myself "whyy EM why?????"

"I think Royce has declined as a lyricist, in recent years so many of his verses have basically been run of the mill mixtape type of content"

I agree. He's not at his best like back in the late 90s and early '00s. For some reason, his flow has changed significantly. In my opinion, he should have been on Em's new joint.

As for Em, I do say this album is better than Encore. I would put it on the same level as the Eminem Show. The album did get better after track 7 though. I had no hope for it, but with the ganja song and "Medicine Ball", I was actually surprised. I thought the whole album was going to be a dud. Em should have had a Black Milk produced track as well as a Dilla track to show love for his Detroit brethern.

It seems to me that when his fuckin' with Dre, he can't really expand outside of Aftermath material. For Relapse to be a complete hip hop joint, throw some of the aforementioned producers on there for a little variety.

"I agree. He's not at his best like back in the late 90s and early '00s. For some reason, his flow has changed significantly. In my opinion, he should have been on Em's new joint. "

Like I asked Jason, have you heard "The Album" and his new singles? Or even "The Bar Exam"?

Black Milk and Dilla over Dre? LMAO!!!!!!!

Come on, Steve. A Black Milk/Dilla/Em track would be nuts

It's Dre day all day everyday.

I get the feeling that Purple Tape 2 and Blackout 2 are both gonna trump Relapse.

youre wrong.



dead wrong

Steve wrote:

youre wrong.



dead wrong

Don't get it twisted, I love Em, but other than that Dre track and the few snippets I haven't been impressed thus far. Whereas everything I've heard from Blackout 2 thus far has been bangin. Same with OB4CL 2. If it has a healthy doze of Ghostface it'll be a banger. I doubt it'll be classic like the first Purple Tape, but it should be at least 4+ stars.

Hell yeah a Dilla/Black Milk track over Dre. Dre is overrated man, and everybody knows that. If it wasn't for Scott Storch, Dre wouldn't sound the way he does now. IMO, I would take a 90s Dre over the new millenium one any day. He used better samples back then.

"Like I asked Jason, have you heard "The Album" and his new singles? Or even "The Bar Exam"?"

Yes. But seriously, the feature verse he did on Em's first mainstream album was ill as hell. That's the Royce I want to hear.

dre is overrated.....LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Has Eminem EVER rapped over a wack beat, EVER? No, tell me which one of your favorite artists hasn't. Em never has because of Dre, plain and simple. I'd take the worst beat on relapse over the best beat on tronic.

i won't be coppin this but i posted it for whoever wants to check it out

no way steve...here you go again with these "shock" statements...

the beats were great in a sense that they fit em. they fit the mood of the album...this is another concept entirely different from ONE clean beat. this album had a nice beat.

but anyway, that's my first impression...the album fucking flows like crazy...even the we made you fit in nicely. i still don't like his voice though...but a pleasant surprise to say the least. you can tell he put a lot of effort into it.

okay skinny jeans, call it "beats that fit", tell me how many other artists have done that? every single track.

I'm not a huge fan of new millennium Dre either, his beats tend to be kind of dry and robotic, too clean for my tastes, and kind of predictable. They do knock, that's for sure, I'm not saying they suck, that'd be crazy, they do work great with Em. But, with that said, I would like to hear Eminem over a different style of production more often, and Black Milk would a good choice.

"I'd take the worst beat on relapse over the best beat on tronic."

I'd take 'Losin' Out' over just about everything on "Relapse". I love that beat

That said, I'm almost finished with my first listen, and I'm really surprised. None of those "Encore" type tracks on here (except Crack A Bottle). I'm on 'Stay Wide Awake', and I'd give this a solid 4 as of right now. The accent barely bothered me at all

Steve wrote:

dre is overrated.....LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Has Eminem EVER rapped over a wack beat, EVER? No, tell me which one of your favorite artists hasn't. Em never has because of Dre, plain and simple. I'd take the worst beat on relapse over the best beat on tronic.

I co-sign this, but Em HAS rhymed over a couple mediorce beats. HOWEVER those beats weren't produced by Dre, they were produced by himself.

Steve, you can't seriously say that every single Dre beat is dope on all of Em's albums. Just because it is an Em album doesn't mean all of the beats are spectacular. There are other producers out there that would def give Dre a run for his money on an Em joint (DJ Quik, Large Pro, Marley Marl, Pete Rock, Dilla, RZA).

lol, those guys (minus dilla) are a lot different than black milk (lmao get off it undergronud guys) and dilla.

i would like to hear Em over a different style of beat as well just to see how he sounds, but id never oppose to Dre producing everything

Well, Black Milk still has to refine he beat skills a little more. With Tronic, I know he was experimenting using live instruments. I was just saying that maybe Em should branch out some more on an album. I don't know about you all, but I know I would def like to see a RZA or a Pete Rock beat on his albums.

I would never oppose to Dre doing everything either because of the chemistry those two have.

Also, 50 should have never been on Relapse. That wack ass verse he had on "Crack A Bottle" was horrendous (singing and shit). Do y'all also hear that due to the anticipation of Em's album, 50 went back to the studio to redo 75% of "Before I Self Destruct".

lol yea i heard that harris about 50

i think Eminem spittin dark lyrics over a RZA beat such as "4th Chamber" would be incredible

"lol yea i heard that harris about 50"

Yeah man. I think he is trying to craft a "Power of a Dollar" album or something. I don't think that will happen though.

"i think Eminem spittin dark lyrics over a RZA beat such as "4th Chamber" would be incredible"

That's what I'm saying. I just want Em to be a little more versatile as beats go. Also, throw a couple of credible features on an album as well (maybe Redman, Tech N9ne, or Royce again).