Whats the big deal with Minnisota hip hop?

We crucify southern cheerleaders for showing the south favoratism but the Minn. hip hop heads like Alan do the same thing. I find Minn. hip hop nothing spectacular and quite bland. Not saying its terrible but nothing from there floors me. You really have run-of-the-mill rap acts who sound like Heiroglyphics. Lyrically they're almost on the same level as the south, Sure their CONTENT is more positive but strictly going on rhyming skills they're bout par. Minn. will never produce a Immortal Tech, Megalon or a Celph Titled. The only thing Minn rappers got going fr them is that they're from Minn. You can take the same rapper put him somewhere else and minn. heads wont notice him. Even beat wise they're not all that great. They just seem to have alot of fanboys.IDK, maybe I'm missing something. But if the Minn. produce nothing but gangster rap, then Minn hh heads will be wanneba gangstas, They're just blindy supporting their movement. The positive thing is that this rap gets its listeners open to true hip hop. The same way southern crunk gets its listeners about to other sorts of gangsta rap and pop-boppery. But they ultimately show a biased allegiance to Minn. rap. That's why Minn rap heads tend to only favor jazzy hip hop from other coast. Something similar to their hometown's sound.

I'd agree with your entire post if you replaced "Minn" with "NY" and "Heiro" with "Rakim". "Immortal Tech, Megalon, Celph Titled" with "K Rino, Tech N9ne, Or Bizzy Bone".

Haha. Those are some pretty big revisions

Nah. I'll do a pretty big revision:


Trotter, shut the fuck up.

That's not a revision, that's a response

Oh no I was revising his whole thing.

So... what you're saying is... Trotter told himself to shut up?

The post would have been more useful if he had, yes.

There goes Nero crying again. You can't compare Minn. to NY. Even on an underground level they still dont have much of an impact. I know hh heads that dont even know Minn hiphop exist. NERO hates NY and Black people.

Also Nero your drawing skills are terrible! Do you really draw your name like that?

I didn't do that. Some dude named Trotter said he'd do it and then never did so I had to out-source.

N3RO, what the fuck are you smokin dude! Now all of a sudden you're hating on East Coast hip-hop???? Dude, if it weren't for the East Coast, Hip-Hop would have NEVER seen the light of day. So for you to say that shit is straight up ridiculous!

If you wanna lash out at Trotter for dissin Minnesota hip-hop, then that's fine. But don't bite the hand that fed the rap game to begin with. If it weren't for guys like Rakim and Run-DMC, they'd be no Haystak, Sandman, or Atmosphere. So you seriously need to check yourself, dogg.

Kool John, I'm pretty sure he was joking lmao

I know very little about Minnesota hip hop but this song is awesome...enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc9BjyRhxYk

No, I wasn't, fuck new york.

Lord Emperor N3R0N0N wrote:

No, I wasn't, fuck new york.

Fuck you bitch! If it wasn't for New York, hip-hop would have never existed!

Okay, and if it wasn't for my dad I wouldn't exist but he abandoned me so fuck him and FUCK NEW YORK.


(except artists that keep it real like KP, Immortal Tech, DJX, etc.)

Whatever man, you're even more ignorant than Vernon. You can eat a fat dick, and that goes for anybody that hates on the MECCA of hip-hop!

EDIT: The fact that Haystak ain't selling has nothing to do with him being from the South, he ain't sellin because he sucks ass!

"EDIT: The fact that Haystak ain't selling has nothing to do with him being from the South, he ain't sellin because he sucks ass!"

That was irrelevant. Also, are you saying K-Rino sucks? Vakill sucks? Basically anyone dropping albums in this day in age suck because they don't sell?

Yeah you're a myopic douche again. Way to go KJ!!!

Shon wrote:

"EDIT: The fact that Haystak ain't selling has nothing to do with him being from the South, he ain't sellin because he sucks ass!"

That was irrelevant. Also, are you saying K-Rino sucks? Vakill sucks? Basically anyone dropping albums in this day in age suck because they don't sell?

I never said that Shawn. I think that N3R0 is being a crybaby for blaming Nas and Ghost for niggas in the South not sellin. I was just saying that Haystak sucks. I think Vakill is AWESOME and I respect K-Rino (although I think many in this forum overrate him). But myself and others have tried to be logical with N3RO regarding this issue and he's still on his "Fuck NY" menstral cycle. K-Rino has been around for YEARS and hasn't sold much. In fact, he's been rhyming LONGER than Nas and Ghost have. So there's no way that he can attribute his lack of sales to HHID or Ghost dissin D4L. I mean seriously, D4L is wack! Nobody on here likes them, not even SRP who likes most cats from the South, so I don't know why N3RO is hatin on him.

But it's whatever. He's the one being a myopic douchebag. New York is, was, and always will be the Mecca of hip-hop whether he or anybody else likes it or not.

New York is the Mecca of hip hop, that is a fact.

N3R0 isn't blaming them for the South to not selling. He's blaming them for people not checking out underground southern artists. Sales have no merit in this conversation. In all honesty, sales mean absolutely nothing, except for how many people know a certain artist.

In any way, sales don't have any think to do here

Man, I was gonna tear you a new asshole, but SHON SERVED YOUR ASS DOUCHE.


Do you know what myopic means? Exactly. You like Vakill, whoooo hooo now you're not closed minded. Try again fuckface.

@ KJ

lol @ fool john trying to be a bully...

That smiley makes me giggle

Kool John makes me giggle.

...No homo?

No, KJ is a homo I'm pretty sure.

Nope. It's a fact he isn't. I don't know if you were in the chatbox, though...

Chatbox?

Lets get back to the topic of Minn. ip Hop falling short

LOL

Dang! Trotter wrote:

We crucify southern cheerleaders for showing the south favoratism but the Minn. hip hop heads like Alan do the same thing. I find Minn. hip hop nothing spectacular and quite bland. Not saying its terrible but nothing from there floors me. You really have run-of-the-mill rap acts who sound like Heiroglyphics. Lyrically they're almost on the same level as the south, Sure their CONTENT is more positive but strictly going on rhyming skills they're bout par. Minn. will never produce a Immortal Tech, Megalon or a Celph Titled. The only thing Minn rappers got going fr them is that they're from Minn. You can take the same rapper put him somewhere else and minn. heads wont notice him. Even beat wise they're not all that great. They just seem to have alot of fanboys.IDK, maybe I'm missing something. But if the Minn. produce nothing but gangster rap, then Minn hh heads will be wanneba gangstas, They're just blindy supporting their movement. The positive thing is that this rap gets its listeners open to true hip hop. The same way southern crunk gets its listeners about to other sorts of gangsta rap and pop-boppery. But they ultimately show a biased allegiance to Minn. rap. That's why Minn rap heads tend to only favor jazzy hip hop from other coast. Something similar to their hometown's sound.

LOL!!! Where do I start?

Personally, I love Minnesota hip-hop (as if that wasn't clear. lol). Maybe that's because I identify with the artists more, and I can participate with the scene first hand. But I feel it's because I truly dig the art....those aforementioned details make me love it more though. I can see why you think it is bland, Trotter. Me and you look for COMPLETELY different things when considering hip-hop. As an overall sound, MN does not try to push boundaries as much as some scenes, but I have no personal problem with that. One thing I disagree with is when you say they are lyrically (not flow-wise) "the same level as the south". It is a weird comparison, but I know you hate on the south, so it ain't no compliment. I feel the songwriting is the scene's strong point. Beat-wise, the scene doesn't break a lot of new ground or nothing, but I personally love much of what comes out of MN production-wise.

"Minn. will never produce a Immortal Tech, Megalon or a Celph Titled."

And they probably never will, since the hardcore stuff is not the highlight of the MN scene.

It all boils down to personal preference and taste.

When is Trotter gonna stop acting like he's not from the Midwest? Seriously...

Lord Emperor N3R0N0N wrote:

When is Trotter gonna stop acting like he's not from the Midwest? Seriously...

Actually Im not I just live here. But what does dat have to do with anything? Its real recognizing real.

Trotter's from upstate NY. NY stand Upppppppppppppppp!

Lord Emperor N3R0N0N wrote:

No, KJ is a homo I'm pretty sure.

Bitch, I've had MORE pussy than your faggot ass! So suck off your boyfriend Haystak, asshole!

N3R0 of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

No, I wasn't, fuck new york.

lololololol yeah fuck new york!

Way to dig up threads. But, fuck Seattle, except for a few select producers, D. Black, and the Seahawks

LMAO @ this thread!!!

C.Tran, you're not taking my job.

Halfmanhalfwoman, you aren't doing your job.

Moving to classics, lol

Fuck NY

Fuck ATL, Seattle, Canada, Japan, and wherever else Tran claims.

I claim your mom.

I been claimed yours

Since Ive created this thread my opinion on minn.hop has changed a little. Brother Ali had something to do with that. I by no means are stating they're wack. Their sound is decent but not mind blowing. But you must rmember Im bipolar

What other Minn fanboys do you know aside from Alan? I do believe this was a singular attack...