Flawless Discography?

Are there any mc's/groups that you consider as having flawless discographies? As in, nothing below a 4.0. And I'm not talking about the easy ones like Seagram, Biggie, Big L, etc. I'm talking about 4 albums AT LEAST. Here's my list, off the top of my head:

2Pac-From 2Pacalypse to Makaveli (and even counting Still I Rise and R U Still Down? Maybe even Better Dayz and Until The End of Time) dude dropped dopeness every time out.

Ill Bill-from Non Phixion to solo stuff to LCN, Bill's been one to count on.

Brother Ali-always comes with heat

POS- 3 dope solos and a Doomtree album and my man is still putting out crack

Mystikal-5 dope albums

Talib Kweli
Scarface(I assume we're only talking about official albums he's been involved with)
Pharoahe Monch(including OK's 3 albums)
UGK

While we'll have to agree to disagree on the Talib, I'll co-sign the rest of your list, T.

N3R0 wrote:

While we'll have to agree to disagree on the Talib, I'll co-sign the rest of your list, T.

Which album(s) in Kweli's discog fall short in your opinion?

Liberation and Beautiful Struggle aren't all that great IMO.

N3R0 wrote:

Liberation and Beautiful Struggle aren't all that great IMO.

I haven't heard Liberation so i can't really comment on that one, and depending on how big of a Kweli fan you may be, i could see it being less than 4 stars. I personally have at 4 stars. I think it's an underrated album.

I thought you were a Talib stan? It's only 9 tracks but it's produced by Madlib and was massively over-hyped when it came out (first as a free d/l, then as a physical EP).

Yeah, i'm a Kweli fan, but i always thought it was more of a mixtape. I've never been a fan of mixtapes to be honest.

I think you should check it out, at least a d/l.

Outkast maybe. I really don't care all that much for "Speakerboxx/Love Below" or "Idlewild" but they're not wack either.

The Coup:

Kill My Landlord (4.5 stars)
Genocide & Juice (5 stars)
Steal This Album (5 stars)
Party Music (4.5 stars)
Pick a Bigger Weapon (4 stars)

Masta Ace...

Take a Look Around (5 stars)
SlaughtaHouse (4.5-5 stars)
Sittin' on Chrome (4 stars? I think so, but it's on the fringe)
Disposable Arts (4.5 stars)
A Long Hot Summer (5 stars)

I also feel Arrested Development falls in this category...

# 1992: 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life Of... (5 stars)
# 1994: Zingalamaduni (4 stars)
# 2002: Heroes of the Harvest (4.5 stars)
# 2004: Among The Trees (4.25 stars)
# 2006: Since The Last Time (5 stars)

Masta Ace is missing eMC and A&E. But those are both over 4 stars IMO.

DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince:

Rock the House (4.5 stars)
He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper (5 stars)
And in This Corner… (4.5 stars)
Homebase (5 stars)
Code Red (4 stars)

N3R0 wrote:

Masta Ace is missing eMC and A&E. But those are both over 4 stars IMO.

I considered those collaborative efforts. Not "Masta Ace" albums.

This may not technically fall within the rules, but I'd go with CL Smooth as well...

Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - All Souled Out EP (5 stars)
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother (5 stars)
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - The Main Ingredient (5 stars)
C.L. Smooth - American Me (5 stars)

Perhaps the only artist I've ever listened to who I feel has only dropped 5 star classics his whole (albeit short recording-wise) career. American Me still holds strong after 3 years of listening for me. Just bumped it 2 days ago...still a personal classic.

E. Taylor wrote:

Outkast maybe. I really don't care all that much for "Speakerboxx/Love Below" or "Idlewild" but they're not wack either.

Speakerboxxx is dope but the other two are weak IMO.

Alan wrote:

This may not technically fall within the rules, but I'd go with CL Smooth as well...

Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - All Souled Out EP (5 stars)
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother (5 stars)
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - The Main Ingredient (5 stars)
C.L. Smooth - American Me (5 stars)

Perhaps the only artist I've ever listened to who I feel has only dropped 5 star classics his whole (albeit short recording-wise) career. American Me still holds strong after 3 years of listening for me. Just bumped it 2 days ago...still a personal classic.

You think American Me is a classic??? I disagree personally. It's definitely dope but not 5 stars IMO. I could see the argument for The Main Ingredient though. I personally have it at 4.5 but I can see why someone would see it as a classic.

KJ Styles wrote:

Alan wrote:

This may not technically fall within the rules, but I'd go with CL Smooth as well...

Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - All Souled Out EP (5 stars)
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother (5 stars)
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - The Main Ingredient (5 stars)
C.L. Smooth - American Me (5 stars)

Perhaps the only artist I've ever listened to who I feel has only dropped 5 star classics his whole (albeit short recording-wise) career. American Me still holds strong after 3 years of listening for me. Just bumped it 2 days ago...still a personal classic.

You think American Me is a classic??? I disagree personally. It's definitely dope but not 5 stars IMO. I could see the argument for The Main Ingredient though. I personally have it at 4.5 but I can see why someone would see it as a classic.

You mean we disagree on something? Shocking...

I already reiterated it twice in my initial response, but I'll go for a third if you like - yes, American Me is a classic 5 star record IMO. As well as The Main Ingredient.

The Roots
Gangstarr
GZA
M.O.P.

I was gonna list GZA, but i don't think Words From The Genius is 4 stars.

Heavy D & The Boyz...my rankings...

1987: Living Large (4 stars)
1989: Big Tyme (4.25 stars)
1991: Peaceful Journey (4.75 stars)
1993: Blue Funk (4.75-5 stars...favorite)
1994: Nuttin' But Love ((4.5 stars)

T. Myers wrote:

I was gonna list GZA, but i don't think Words From The Genius is 4 stars.

cosign

Alan wrote:

Heavy D & The Boyz...my rankings...

1987: Living Large (4 stars)
1989: Big Tyme (4.25 stars)
1991: Peaceful Journey (4.75 stars)
1993: Blue Funk (4.75-5 stars...favorite)
1994: Nuttin' But Love ((4.5 stars)

Sorry, but you can't ignore the heavsta's wack ass solos...

Cunninlynguists haven't dropped anything weak. I would say Clipse but Til The Casket was a little weak. It definitely had its standouts but there was some wack songs.

Scarface
Talib Kweli
DJ Quik
Brother Ali
Boogie Down Productions
Willie D

Lionel Hutz wrote:

Alan wrote:

Heavy D & The Boyz...my rankings...

1987: Living Large (4 stars)
1989: Big Tyme (4.25 stars)
1991: Peaceful Journey (4.75 stars)
1993: Blue Funk (4.75-5 stars...favorite)
1994: Nuttin' But Love ((4.5 stars)

Sorry, but you can't ignore the heavsta's wack ass solos...

Other than "Heavy" he didn't drop anything wack IMO. Waterbed Hev is like 3.5, but not wack.

Alan wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I was gonna list GZA, but i don't think Words From The Genius is 4 stars.

cosign

I never owned that album so I overlooked it. Plus it was pre-Wu Tang so he wasn't known as GZA back then.

I'm definitely alone on this but i think Dalek has a flawless (above 4 stars) discog:

Negro Neckro Necros (4 stars)
From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots (5 stars)
Absence (4 stars)
Abandoned Language (5 stars)
Gutter Tactics (4.5 stars)

People Under The Stairs. 7 official albums, all are easily over 4 stars.

MOP
Wu-Tang Clan (just group albums)...i actually have all their group albums at at least 4 stars (Iron Flag, and 8D are 4 to me) and you know how i feel about the other 3

cosign 2Pac Nero

Black Moon (even though they only have 3 official albums)

I disagree about Wu and Pac. A few of the post-Makaveli joints are suspect, and The W and Iron Flag are not 4 star efforts IMO.

KJ Styles wrote:

I disagree about Wu and Pac. A few of the post-Makaveli joints are suspect, and The W and Iron Flag are not 4 star efforts IMO.

the W is 4.5 and a personal classic to me, Iron Flag and 8D are 4, and as for PAc im only talking about up to Makaveli

KJ, you don't count Gza's shit that HE APPROVED AND RELEASED AND HAD CONTROL OVER WHILE HE WAS ALIVE, but you DO count PAC'S SHIT THAT CAME OUT AFTER HIS DEATH WITH BEATS HE NEVER EVEN RAPPED TO. FOR FUCKING SHAME ON YOUR BIAS.

That is plain bullshit. Who cares what he called himself.. GZA was still GZA when he dropped that garbage LP.

Dwight wrote:

People Under The Stairs. 7 official albums, all are easily over 4 stars.

Yes. Too bad others can't see that.

N3R0 wrote:

KJ, you don't count Gza's shit that HE APPROVED AND RELEASED AND HAD CONTROL OVER WHILE HE WAS ALIVE, but you DO count PAC'S SHIT THAT CAME OUT AFTER HIS DEATH WITH BEATS HE NEVER EVEN RAPPED TO. FOR FUCKING SHAME ON YOUR BIAS.

Why does everything gotta be a bullshit conspiracy theory with you????

I own every Pac album, I don't own Words From The Genius and have maybe heard it twice in my fucking lifetime.

If you want to count it then FINE, I don't give a fuck. But don't accuse me of fucking bias!

There's no conspiracy.

You told Terry not to count Gza's debut (Words From The Genius) then said you counted 2pac post-humous material. Tell me how that makes a lick of sense without taking bias into account.

Words from the Genius was a severe disappointment.
Personally I think 'Pac thorough for all alive ventures.
Co-sign Scarface

Common would've been straight except for UMC.
Outkast is straight IMO. I don't count Idlewild because it was a soundtrack.

Wu's weakness is Iron Flag.

N3R0 wrote:

There's no conspiracy.

You told Terry not to count Gza's debut (Words From The Genius) then said you counted 2pac post-humous material. Tell me how that makes a lick of sense without taking bias into account.

I never told him not to count anything, I just said that I didn't take it into account because I never owned it. Hell, I didn't even know that it existed until AFTER Liquid Swords was released, but I own every Pac album.

I actually rank Pac slightly ahead of GZA on my GOAT list, so there's ZERO bias involved Jeffery.

cant believe the hate for Words from the genius, i loved it

Ghost Face Killah
Gangstar
Mos Def
Tommy Gunn
Blackalicious

Mos Def? BS, BOBS, Ecstatic, and i can see New Danger being acceptable, but True Magic doesnt get a pass

I agree on the Ghost pick, people tend to hate on Bulletproof Wallets but i love that album, one of the my favorites from him actually

Bulletproof Wallets is subpar relatively speaking. Ghost has a superb discog, so the bar is set pretty high, but as an album in its own right,I don't think there's any doubt that it's a 4 or better.

True Magic is a drink coaster in my basement. No, seriously...

The only one of Trotter's picks I agree with is GangStarr (whom I previously picked)

Actually, I've yet to hear a wack Blackalicious album. I have all of their shit and none of it is below 4 stars, IMO.

Same for Ghost...

I can understand arguments for all of his picks except for Megalon and Mos.

"Actually, I've yet to hear a wack Blackalicious album. I have all of their shit and none of it is below 4 stars, IMO."

Indeed.

Megalon doesn't have 4 albums... lol

Bulletproof Wallets isn't the issue IMO, it'd be that Ghostdeini shit he dropped last year.

That's a 4 star album to me...