Top 5 albums released in 2004

Kanye West-College Dropout
Royce Da 5'9"-Death Is Certain
Masta Killa-No Said Date
Young Buck-Straight Outta Ca$hville
Lloyd Banks-Hunger For More

this is getting worse and worse...it shows the decline in STEEP proportions....

anyway for '04...let's see:

in no particular order:

Kanye West-College Dropout

Mobb Deep-Amerikaz Nightmare

Snoop Dogg-R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta)

Masta Killa-No Said Date

D.Powell wrote:

this is getting worse and worse...it shows the decline in STEEP proportions....

anyway for '04...let's see:

in no particular order:

Kanye West-College Dropout

Mobb Deep-Amerikaz Nightmare

Snoop Dogg-R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta)

Masta Killa-No Said Date

Um, isn't The Grind Date 5 stars to you? No love for Masta Ace?

Oh right I forgot about De La Soul-The Grind Date (this is my album of the year for '04) its that good...thanks for that reminder Terry!

1. Madvillain - Madvillainy
2. K-Os - Joyful Rebellion
3. Cee-Lo - The Soul Machine
4. Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album
5. Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer

Powell you really need to step your game up. Let that 80's shit go a little man. This is one of those strong yrs for this decade. A lot of dope ass albums!

Kanye West- College Dropout
Cee Lo- Soul Machine
Z-Ro- Life Of Joseph Mcvey
Young Buck- Str8 Outta Cashville
Roots- Tipping Point

Hon. Mention
Suga Free- New Testament
Masta Killa- No Said Date
dead prez- RBG
Goodie Mob- One Monkey
Ghost- Pretty Toney Album

Kill it Kev...the shit is in decline in the 00's...I really wish you had cable t.v. in the 80's and 90's.....then you would know exactly what I'm talking about....you really missed out mane (mayne)

and none of those albums you mentioned would have a chance in those "golden ages" mane

C'MON SON GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!

Madvillain - Madvillainy
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer
Leak Bros - Waterworld
Masta Killa - No Said Date
De La Soul - The Grind Date

Powell...

You're really showing your ass here with either

a) how much you claim to listen to/like newer shit

or

b) knowing that you do like newer shit, but upon looking at the FACTS, you realize you'd have to give the last 10 years more credit than you do.

So admit you stopped listening 15 years ago and you're not nearly as qualified as the expert as you'd like us to believe or give the newer generation more credit.

Kanye West's "The College Dropout"
Nas' "Street's Disciple"
Masta Ace's "A Long Hot Summer"
Masta Killah's "No Said Date"
Devin the Dude's "To Tha X-Treme"

Nas - Street's Disciple
Foreign Exchange - Connected
Royce Da 5' 9" - Death is Certain
MF DOOM - Madvillainy
Talib Kweli - The Beautiful Struggle


Weak ass year

ctrx wrote:

Kanye West's "The College Dropout"
Nas' "Street's Disciple"
Masta Ace's "A Long Hot Summer"
Masta Killah's "No Said Date"
Devin the Dude's "To Tha X-Treme"

C'mon man, I thought we were friends.

Steve wrote:

Nas - Street's Disciple
Foreign Exchange - Connected
Mos Def - The New Danger
MF DOOM - Madvillainy
Talib Kweli - The Beautiful Struggle


Weak ass year

Diverse indeed.

Steve wrote:

Nas - Street's Disciple
Foreign Exchange - Connected
Mos Def - The New Danger
MF DOOM - Madvillainy
Talib Kweli - The Beautiful Struggle


Weak ass year

It is definitely a weak year, but you're not helping yourself by picking weak albums. The New Danger? The Beautiful Struggle? We gotta diversify your portfolio.

KRob86 wrote:

Powell you really need to step your game up. Let that 80's shit go a little man. This is one of those strong yrs for this decade. A lot of dope ass albums!

Kanye West- College Dropout
Cee Lo- Soul Machine
Z-Ro- Life Of Joseph Mcvey
Young Buck- Str8 Outta Cashville
Roots- Tipping Point

Hon. Mention
Suga Free- New Testament
Masta Killa- No Said Date
dead prez- RBG
Goodie Mob- One Monkey
Ghost- Pretty Toney Album

Good looking on that one, because it often gets under-rated and over-hated.

My list, go ahead and hate:

Ill Bill-What's Wrong With Bill?
Kanye West-College Dropout
Royce Da 5'9"-Death Is Certain
Leak Bros.-Waterworld
Illogic-Celestial Clockwork

Hon Mentions
Young Buck-Straight Outta Cashville
Twista-Kamikaze
Bizzy Bone-Alpha & Omega
Haystak-Portrait Of A Whiteboy
Eyedea & Abilities-E&A

Ahh I missed Death is Certain for this year, that would replace New Danger for sure.

Jeff wrote:

Powell...

You're really showing your ass here with either

a) how much you claim to listen to/like newer shit

or

b) knowing that you do like newer shit, but upon looking at the FACTS, you realize you'd have to give the last 10 years more credit than you do.

So admit you stopped listening 15 years ago and you're not nearly as qualified as the expert as you'd like us to believe or give the newer generation more credit.

I'd hate to start disagreeing with you again Jeff but I have too competely with this statement....but again in your opinion 03 to the present is the strongest years in hip-hop history so I understand why you just said what you did...but in my opinion jeff the last 10 years of hip-hop music OVERALL have been trash man.....2009 was the strongest year over those last 10 and a bunch of heat was released last year but it still wasn't enough to save the last decade....it's not about giving the newer generation more credit...it's never been about generations for me....I love hip-hop music and culture and if the last 10 years were more banging than any other period in it's history then I'm bobbin my head and showing it some love...plain and simple my dude....if it was that strong then it gets its proper respect from me...I love hip-hop..so let's keep the fire going strong...but the fire has diied down a long time ago man...it's not dead...but it's decreased in it's power.....I wish this wasn't the case but for me and a bunch of others but sadly it is the case, now I know,

you like the newer shit more..I know you think the music has evolved for the better.....I know you think that hip-hop is still the global respected force that it was before...but IMO what hip-hop has become is something that anyone thinks they can do....anyone can go on a computer and think they can make beats like Preemo or Pete Rock...anyone thinks they can use their thesaurus or dictionary and be Rakim or Canibus...the fan base wants to be the artist now....so soon everybody in the crowd will be "rockin" the mic...lol

As I said before too many hands have touched it and ruined it...made it un pure...made it dirty...basically fucked it up....this is the problem now IMO.....the last 10 years OVERALL have been fuckin horrible man....disgusting and a disgrace....some gems have risen out of the ashes but overall it's been a disappointment IMO....I really wish I could say it hasn't!

De La Soul- The Grind Date
Masta Killa- No Said Date
Kanye West- College Dropout
Nas- Street Disciple
Jadakiss- Kiss Of Death

And to Powell, while I agree with most of the things you've said above, it's not hard to find 5 dope albums from any given year. And 2009 isn't even close to the best year of this decade. In fact, I thought it was one of the weakest.

You speak the truth powell!!

But making some of these top 5's for the 2000's I realise the amount of dope material that was released....it doesn't fuck with the 90's but nothing will so fuck it i'm ready for new shit

Eastern Rap Pro wrote:

De La Soul- The Grind Date
Masta Killa- No Said Date
Kanye West- College Dropout
Nas- Street Disciple
Jadakiss- Kiss Of Death

And to Powell, while I agree with most of the things you've said above, it's not hard to find 5 dope albums from any given year. And 2009 isn't even close to the best year of this decade. In fact, I thought it was one of the weakest.

I think you need an '09 review KJ...that shit was fire man

Maybe you like 09 better because you had this forum to introduce you to more new albums, so your listening simply went deeper than earlier in the decade.

D.Powell wrote:

Eastern Rap Pro wrote:

De La Soul- The Grind Date
Masta Killa- No Said Date
Kanye West- College Dropout
Nas- Street Disciple
Jadakiss- Kiss Of Death

And to Powell, while I agree with most of the things you've said above, it's not hard to find 5 dope albums from any given year. And 2009 isn't even close to the best year of this decade. In fact, I thought it was one of the weakest.

I think you need an '09 review KJ...that shit was fire man

I have reviewed it several times. Not one consensus classic and maybe 2 albums at best that even flirt with classic status.

I'd say 2002 and 2006 were pretty good years for hip-hop. No year from this decade is fuckin with either golden age, but I'd say those two were above average, especially 06.

2005 was the best year after the 90's

Jason wrote:

Maybe you like 09 better because you had this forum to introduce you to more new albums, so your listening simply went deeper than earlier in the decade.

nah I've been on the forum (going back to amazon) since '07...so I've been taking rec's on a regular basis and buying a whole bunch of shit from all of the years of the 00's...but '09 was the year that stands to me as the best year since the 90's in terms of quality hip-hop music again IN MY OPINION!

last time i checked, 2004 came before 2007.

T. Myers wrote:

last time i checked, 2004 came before 2007.

I have received rec's from the forum for THROUGHOUT the entire decade and have bought a bunch of stuff from earlier in the decade and I still thought that '09 was the strongest year for MY ears Myers...lmao!!

your funny when your bleeding

How many of the albums listed so far have you heard?

Leak Bros.-Waterworld
Illogic-Celestial Clockwork
Z-Ro- Life Of Joseph Mcvey
Eyedea & Abilities-E&A

I've heard every album listed and own most of them except the ones I just listed above....2004 was a weak year for hip-hop music!

Madvillainy
MM Food
No Said Date
Pretty Toney
Long Hot Summer
Whats Wrong With Bill

D.Powell wrote:

Leak Bros.-Waterworld
Illogic-Celestial Clockwork
Z-Ro- Life Of Joseph Mcvey
Eyedea & Abilities-E&A

I've heard every album listed and own most of them except the ones I just listed above....2004 was a weak year for hip-hop music!

Fair enough

D.Powell wrote:

Leak Bros.-Waterworld
Illogic-Celestial Clockwork
Z-Ro- Life Of Joseph Mcvey
Eyedea & Abilities-E&A

I've heard every album listed and own most of them except the ones I just listed above....2004 was a weak year for hip-hop music!

I wonder how you'd feel about Illogic...

I can't wait until Powell hates on '05 and '06.

For anybody that's not in the know...Illogic is fucking dope.



^^^Favorite song by dude. I don't see how people LOVE Ghostface but don't even LIKE Illogic



Those are my favorite two songs of CC, wish I had a physical...

Uh maybe because he has a terrible voice/flow and all the energy and charisma of a corpse?

I like Illogic, but Ghost has much much more energy in his flow and he's more a "street poet" than Illogic, so he probably comes off as less pretentious.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Ghostface sounds like he's still doing thru puberty, but his voice is soooo gangster.

Look, GFK has a more animated delivery, but his lyrics aren't fucking with Logic's, period. And, Logic's flow>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No, Illogic has that early Talib Kweli/Ras Kass thing where he jams way too many syllables together in a line, and completely fucks up his flow. It's pretty mediocre.

never heard of this Illogic fella. would you like to hook me up with a link to this album N3R0?

A Penny For Your Thoughts
Theophany: Book of Elevations
4th Dimensional Rocketships Going Up
Mm...Food
Die, Rugged Man, Die!

Ghost has a straight gangsta voice

2004 was not so weak, really

College Dropout
Tipping point
Murs 3:16
Long Hot Summer
No Said Date
What's Wrong With Bill?
Legacy of Blood
Kiss of Death
The Green CD/DVD
Pretty Toney Album
Madvillainy
The Grind Date
Projekt: Building

Jason wrote:

No, Illogic has that early Talib Kweli/Ras Kass thing where he jams way too many syllables together in a line, and completely fucks up his flow. It's pretty mediocre.

Jason...really? You realize 90% of his lines are punches/ad libs and that's the way he structures his lyrics. This is not a mistake. Go peep some of his older stuff or mixtapes where he's laying verses with only one vocal line recorded and you'll notice that he can rap "normally" as good as anybody else. I find what he does extremely creative and obviously takes a lot of time. Aesop Rock used to rap like this as well, but has since changed his style (I wouldn't necessarily use the word "progressed", but whatever).

T. Myers wrote:

never heard of this Illogic fella. would you like to hook me up with a link to this album N3R0?

Are you going to listen to it?

College Dropout - Least favorite Kanye album besides 808's
Tipping point - Selling out Point
Murs 3:16 - gay
Long Hot Summer - :sleep:
No Said Date - :sleep:
What's Wrong With Bill? - gay
Legacy of Blood - gay
Kiss of Death - :sleep:
The Green CD/DVD - gay
Pretty Toney Album - good album
Madvillainy - good album
The Grind Date - :sleep: :sleep:
Projekt: Building - what? probsbly gay

smh. You call all of that gay, but listed Foreign Exchange? lmao

Jeff wrote:

Jason wrote:

No, Illogic has that early Talib Kweli/Ras Kass thing where he jams way too many syllables together in a line, and completely fucks up his flow. It's pretty mediocre.

Jason...really? You realize 90% of his lines are punches/ad libs and that's the way he structures his lyrics. This is not a mistake. Go peep some of his older stuff or mixtapes where he's laying verses with only one vocal line recorded and you'll notice that he can rap "normally" as good as anybody else. I find what he does extremely creative and obviously takes a lot of time. Aesop Rock used to rap like this as well, but has since changed his style (I wouldn't necessarily use the word "progressed", but whatever).

I've heard Illogic's material from Unforeseen Shadows up to Write to Death Vol. 2.

You rate Graduation over College Dropout? You know he made that for little girls, right?

Jason wrote:

Jeff wrote:

Jason wrote:

No, Illogic has that early Talib Kweli/Ras Kass thing where he jams way too many syllables together in a line, and completely fucks up his flow. It's pretty mediocre.

Jason...really? You realize 90% of his lines are punches/ad libs and that's the way he structures his lyrics. This is not a mistake. Go peep some of his older stuff or mixtapes where he's laying verses with only one vocal line recorded and you'll notice that he can rap "normally" as good as anybody else. I find what he does extremely creative and obviously takes a lot of time. Aesop Rock used to rap like this as well, but has since changed his style (I wouldn't necessarily use the word "progressed", but whatever).

I've heard Illogic's material from Unforeseen Shadows up to Write to Death Vol. 2.

And you don't hear a difference? If you're going to answer the question, it would be helpful to me if you provided more information than "I heard this" maybe add "and this is what I thought". Just saying.