Post-2000 Verses Albums

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor-Kanye

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop-N/A-haven't heard the entire Craig G record

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic-Nas

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman-The Game

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness-Cormega

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome-Senim Silla

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1-Killah Priest

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype-N/A

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient-Inspectah Deck

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'-50 Cent

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening-One Be Lo

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz-Royce

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music-N/A-haven't heard the Dream Merchant

Shon wrote:

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor - kanye

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop -n/a

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic - tie

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman - Game

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness - Mega

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome - havnet heard decmposes'

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1 - Priest

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype - n/a but i love WIll Rap for Food

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient Deck

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin' - AZ personally but 50's overall is prob consdered better

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening - One be lo

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz - Nickel

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music

- n/a

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor
Close call but I give the win to Food & Liquor.

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop.
KRS & Marley win

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic
Stillmatic wins

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman
Documentary wins

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness
The Fix wins EASILY

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome
Haven't heard either of these

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1
Haven't heard The Offering in it's entirety so I can't call this one.

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype
Haven't heard the Tonedeff album

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient
Amerikaz Nightmare wins

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
GRODT wins

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening
Whew this is the closest call on the board! S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. wins by a hair

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz
The Ownerz wins.

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music
Dream Merchant 2 wins.

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop N/A

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness
Haven't heard The Fix.

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome
Decompisition is VERY good.

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1 N/A


Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient N/A

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music

Kayne West- College Dropout

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives

Nas- Stillmatic

Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman

Cormega- The Realness

Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome

Killah Priest- The Offering

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient N/A Haven't heard Amerikaz Nightmare, I'm sure Deck's is better though.

50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M.

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2

All these were easy football sided victories for me, you need to choose tough categories shonny peaks!

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor- Lupe Wins

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop- Craig G. Wasn't a big fan of KRS' album

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic- The Black Album. My favorite Jay album

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman- The Game, slightly

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness- 'Mega. I love The Fix, but I love The Realness more

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome- Decompoze

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1- The Offering

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype- Will Rap For Food. Not the biggest fan of Archetype

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient- The Rebel INS

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'- The Format. Personal classic for me

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening- One Be Lo. Not a Little Brother fan

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz- Royce. The Ownerz is dope, though

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music- Jake One all day

The Realness over the Fix?? Get the fuck outta here! But that is a good match up Shon. Both are on the same vibe.

lol, the fix is dog shit compared to the realness in this listeners eyes...

great unbiased review right here, 3/5 http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:1uvyxdjb4ols

Most music is dog shit to your ears Steve, The Fix is lyrically betta than the Realness come on man wipe that wax out your ears.

Kayne West- College Dropout

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic- this is the hardest one...Black Album by a hair.

The Game- The Documentary- that was harder than I thought that Styles album is a classic in my book.

Scarface- The Fix

Killah Priest- The Offering

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare

50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

Little Brother- The Listening

KRob86 wrote:

Most music is dog shit to your ears Steve, The Fix is lyrically betta than the Realness come on man wipe that wax out your ears.

Nope, just a lot of stupid shit you think is dope, like Bushwick Bill. I'll get the wax outta my ears when you get Scarface's dick outta yours. Like I said, you don't respect my musical knowledge, but you claim you do...which is it homie?? The Fix doesn't come close to The Realness on any level, however you wanna measure it.

I'd say it comes close, but The Realness is overall the better album

I can respect your rap knowledge and still say fuck your choices right? I'm just breaking your balls, take the tampon out your ass and stick it in your fucking mouth.

When you called The Fix dog shit I had to getcha....oh yeah Fuck Vakill too!

haha, i don't care if you don't like vakill, what do you know post-2000? absolutely nothing homie.

I know a good amount of shit post 2000 if it's worth knowing...

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor

Food & Liquor

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop

Hip Hop Lives

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic

Stillmatic

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman

A Gangster & A Gentleman

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness

The Realness

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome

N/A

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1

The Offering

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype

Will Rap For Food

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient

Amerikaz Nightmare

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

Get Rich Or Die Tryin

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening

The Listening

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz

The Ownerz

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music

Dream Merchant 2
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The Fix TRUMPS The Realness! Cormega is an overrated MC. The only reason I rate that album 4 stars is because of Primo's production. But in terms of subject matter. lyricism, and straight up bangin tracks, The Fix is a SUPERIOR album IMO and a CLASSIC. So I agree with Kevin on that.

"The Fix TRUMPS The Realness! Cormega is an overrated MC. The only reason I rate that album 4 stars is because of Primo's production."

Primo didn't produce any of the tracks on The Realness....

Xcel wrote:

"The Fix TRUMPS The Realness! Cormega is an overrated MC. The only reason I rate that album 4 stars is because of Primo's production."

Primo didn't produce any of the tracks on The Realness....

Oh ok, my bad. It was Alchemist. A lot of his beats sound a lot like Primo's that's why I got them confused.

But I still stand by everything else I said.

EDIT: And to Steve, big F'N deal, you saw ONE average review for The Fix, well I've seen an average review for The Realness as well.

http://rapreviews.com/archive/2001_10_realness.html

And many people including The Source have called The Fix a classic! I haven't heard anyone outside of this forum call The Realness a classic.

The Alchemist only produced one track... the remix at the end of the album

Kayne West- College Dropout-Was this one like a joke or something?

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop-I'll give it to Craig G even though I haven't heard much of either

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic-Probably Stillmatic if I'm calling it like I hear it, but I'm gonna say draw.

The Game- The Documentary

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness-Call It A Draw.

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome-Meh.

Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1

Tonedeff- Archetype

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare

50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening-Meh.

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain

Jake One- White Van Music

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor
Still have not heard that particular Lupe record. The Kanye is good, but not a favorite.

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop
Both are pretty damn good, but I gotta go with my GOAT, KRS.

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic
Stillmatic. The Jay-Z doesn't do it for me.

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman
Have not heard the latter.

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness
Cormega, but not by much.

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome
Senim Silla by a slim margin

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1
Extremely close, but I give it to Killah Priest by a hair.

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype
I have not heat the Tonedeff, so I'm not sure. But that's my favorite Cunninlynguists record.

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient
Have not heard that particular Mobb Deep record.

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
Haven't heard either

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening
One Be Lo gets this one for me. But not by a ton.

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz
Haven't heard the Royce, but it would have to be a classic to beat out that Gang Starr which hits 4.5 stars for me.

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music
Haven't heard the 9th. The Jake One is about a 4 star record to me.

Man Al...I assumed you'd heard most of those!!

KJ Styles wrote:

Xcel wrote:

"The Fix TRUMPS The Realness! Cormega is an overrated MC. The only reason I rate that album 4 stars is because of Primo's production."

Primo didn't produce any of the tracks on The Realness....

Oh ok, my bad. It was Alchemist. A lot of his beats sound a lot like Primo's that's why I got them confused.

But I still stand by everything else I said.

EDIT: And to Steve, big F'N deal, you saw ONE average review for The Fix, well I've seen an average review for The Realness as well.

http://rapreviews.com/archive/2001_10_realness.html

And many people including The Source have called The Fix a classic! I haven't heard anyone outside of this forum call The Realness a classic.

yeah kj, I listed the BEST review site, the most unbiased site. That site you just listed gave the Realness 3.5/5 btw, better than 3/5. I wonder if you have even heard this album, since you from Premo, to Alechmist...you OBVIOUSLY have never owned it or you would know that isn't the case.

He wouldn't necessarily know...he's kinda dense.

The Realness is the GOAT

Wow...

Let's see KJ's response to that one!

We'll see if he even comes back...

Lord Emperor N3R0N0N wrote:

Man Al...I assumed you'd heard most of those!!

I've heard 17 out of 26

That is most of them.

I would not say Allmusic is an unbias review site. Then again, no site is unbias IMO. They do a good job and know what they are talking about "most" of the time, but their are plenty of exceptions.

The Realness was quite good. 3.5 out of 5 is way too low. Its about 4.25 in my book.

Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Food & Liquor - Food & Liquor wins in a tough match up

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop- N/A I don't own Operation: Take Back Hip Hop, but I do own Hip Hop Live and that was a boring ass album.

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic- Stillmatic in a close one

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman- Only own The Documentary and that one is real solid, still my favorite album from him.

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness- Oooo this one is hard, but I gotta go with Face on this one.

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome- I don't own either...smh

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1- The Offering wins in a close match up between 4 star albums.

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype- Only own Will Rap For Food, which is my 2nd favorite from them. Real solid album.

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient- Don't own either.

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'- GRODT wins. Lots of bangers on that album, and "Many Men" is still my favorite 50 Cent song.

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. in a blowout.

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz- Death Is Certain wins in a close match up between 3.75 star albums.

9th Wonder- The Dream Merchant 2 vs. Jake One- White Van Music- Seattle stand up!!!!! Jake One wins in a blow up.

"Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz- Death Is Certain wins in a close match up between 3.75 star albums."

smh. Even KJ thinks DIC is at least 4 stars (I think?)

FJ thinks Lupe is 1000x more lyrical than Royce.

But still. Primo produced DIC. Wait, it was Alchemist. That's why it's 4 stars

Royce hasn't drop anything over 4 stars, solo wise imo. I hit the skip bottom too much on his albums.

But I do think he has the potential to drop a classic album.

The Album has skip tracks?

I should clarify, Royce hasn't drop anything over 4 stars, solo wise that I own imo. I own "Death Is Certain", "Rock City", and "Build & Destroy: The Lost Sessions, Pt. 1".

Wow, people are diggin up old-ass threads. LOL!

Since that is the case, I still stand by my opinion that The Fix is better than The Realness. I haven't heard anyone outside of this forum call The Realness a classic album, whereas I've heard many consider The Fix a classic.

As for Allmusic, they really aren't a legit site for rap reviews. I can think of many a bullshit review they've wrote.

For example, they gave 2Pac's Makaveli 2.5 stars!! A BELOW AVERAGE rating for what many feel (myself included) is his second best album. I wonder what Steve has to say about that.

Fuck allmusic, pitchfork, rolling stone, xxl, the source, vibe, spin, nme, and the juggalos at sputnikmusic.

[quote="Shaun"]Kayne West- College Dropout vs. Lupe Fiasco- Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor

KRS-One & Marley Marl- Hip Hop Lives vs. Craig G & Marley Marl- Operation: Take Back Hip Hop

Jay-Z- The Black Album vs. Nas- Stillmatic

The Game- The Documentary vs. Styles P- A Gangster And A Gentleman

Scarface- The Fix vs. Cormega- The Realness

Decompoze- Decompisition vs. Senim Silla- The Name, The Motto, The Outcome

Killah Priest- The Offering vs. Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Vol. 1

Cunninlynguists- Will Rap For Food vs. Tonedeff- Archetype

Mobb Deep- Amerikaz Nightmare vs. Inspectah Deck- Resident Patient

AZ- The Format vs. 50 Cent- Get Rich Or Die Tryin'

One Be Lo- S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. vs. Little Brother- The Listening

Royce Da 5'9"- Death Is Certain vs. Gangstarr- The Ownerz both