Better with time

Who are some artists (solo and groups) you feel has certainly gotten better after their first album? Also, who, in your opinion, made an album (or albums) that was better than their debut?

I think Masta Ace got better with time, but i do love Take A Look Around. UGK got better with time too.

T. Myers wrote:

I think Masta Ace got better with time, but i do love Take A Look Around. UGK got better with time too.

Masta Ace is a good choice.

Masta Ace, Canibus, K-Rino, Vakill(arguably), MF Doom (not D00M)

UGK definitely got better with time. I'd say T.I. and Joe Budden have as well.

KJ Styles wrote:

UGK definitely got better with time. I'd say T.I. and Joe Budden have as well.

I cosign on Joe Budden.

Public Enemy, BDP, The Coup, Paris...just to name a few.

IMO, Masta Ace hit is lyrical peak on his debut. However, he's easily one of the most consistent artists in hip-hop. So I could see why people would say he got better....just not lyrically IMO.

Alan wrote:

Public Enemy, BDP, The Coup, Paris...just to name a few.

IMO, Masta Ace hit is lyrical peak on his debut. However, he's easily one of the most consistent artists in hip-hop. So I could see why people would say he got better....just not lyrically IMO.

Public Enemy is one group who's second album was clearly better than the first. Yo! Bumrush The Show will always be a classic, but It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back is the superior of the two albums.

K Rino is the easiest choice imo, lyrically and album wise he's at the top of his game. Nas is another imo who got betta lyrically, discog, and flow wise with time.

Oh and add Face as well.

KRob86 wrote:

Oh and add Face as well.

On which album do you think Face was starting to get better?

Wayne wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Oh and add Face as well.

On which album do you think Face was starting to get better?

Either The Diary or Untouchable and Resurrection. On all those albums lyrically, subject matter wise, and flow wise he got betta imo.

KRob86 wrote:

Wayne wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Oh and add Face as well.

On which album do you think Face was starting to get better?

Either The Diary or Untouchable and Resurrection. On all those albums lyrically, subject matter wise, and flow wise he got betta imo.

I'd go with The Diary. By the way KRob, what's your rating for The Untouchable?

K-Rino, Masta Ace, and Scarface are the first three I think of when asked who is still as good as they were when they came out, or better.

Wayne wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Wayne wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Oh and add Face as well.

On which album do you think Face was starting to get better?

Either The Diary or Untouchable and Resurrection. On all those albums lyrically, subject matter wise, and flow wise he got betta imo.

I'd go with The Diary. By the way KRob, what's your rating for The Untouchable?

Its a personal classic for and my 2nd fav Face album...I got it at a 4.5-4.75 objectively.

KRob86 wrote:

Wayne wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Wayne wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Oh and add Face as well.

On which album do you think Face was starting to get better?

Either The Diary or Untouchable and Resurrection. On all those albums lyrically, subject matter wise, and flow wise he got betta imo.

I'd go with The Diary. By the way KRob, what's your rating for The Untouchable?

Its a personal classic for and my 2nd fav Face album...I got it at a 4.5-4.75 objectively.

I can respect that rating. I like it a lot also. It's probably my second or third favorite Face album.

I've always thought Face to be dope. I don't think he really changed much lyrically over the years. The production on his albums has gotten better, but he's always been a pretty dope lyricist.

Reasonable Doubt gets better with time. That album is the definition of timeless.

The three that come to mind are:

Steady B
Above the Law
Kool Moe Dee

Steady B's first two were better than his third album. How Ya Like Me Now was certainly the peak of Moe Dee's skills.

I always liked BAD more than Radio. By a long shot.

Whether you prefer ATLiens or Aquemeni, they're both better than Southernplaya..., which is dope in it's own rite.

I think most people would agree that MATW was Pac's masterpiece.

Dre and Cube both did their best work after going solo. Some would say Eazy, too. Again, these guys started out at the top, but just happened to get even better.

JMT's second album was better than their first. I happen to like Legacy of Blood the most.

El-P put out his best work (arguably) with I'll Sleep...

Ill Bill just keeps getting better.

RA The Rugged Man has definitely improved

Royce keeps improving as well

T. Myers wrote:

I think Masta Ace got better with time, but i do love Take A Look Around. UGK got better with time too.

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Lionel Hutz wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

I think Masta Ace got better with time, but i do love Take A Look Around. UGK got better with time too.

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I would say Sean Price has gotten better with time. Even though Nocturnal is the best album he has been involved with IMO. I thought Rock would have been the one to blow up. Sean P never really stood out to me until Monkey Barz but he has been a standout since