Tru Master and KRS - One - Metahistorical

is one of the most dissapointing albums in recent history.

Tru comes through with the beats. All of them are solid with 3-4 pure bangers, but KRS ONe completely sucks on the entire album. He's an unfocused babbling mess. Reminds me of Lil' Flip on his worst day, just freestyling random shit and not making sense.

I'm sure stans like KJ will come in here to defend him even before they hear the album, and they will probably defend the wackness that is the album too, but this is truely a dissapointing CD.

Called it.

I havent heard the album but srp read the lyrics to me after he tucked me in so I know they fucking suck

If this is true then KRS may need to just go ahead and hang it up.

He's been terrible for quite a few years.

I just wish he would have shown some focus and effort on here. Would have been one of his best albums ever given the production. He's just all over the place, even within individual tracks.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

I just wish he would have shown some focus and effort on here. Would have been one of his best albums ever given the production. He's just all over the place, even within individual tracks.

hmm so your saying the production is good, for that im gonna buy this but im kinda disappointed in KRS not bringing it. If thats the case i wish True would have saved these beats for someone else

how is the song ft. RZA?

weak.


KRS doesn't deserve these beats.

KRS gets murked by True Master on He's Us. LOL

Steve wrote:

KRS gets murked by True Master on He's Us. LOL

Yeah he does actually. I thought that was ridiculous... murked by a non rapping producer

People who have heard Survival Skills should not be surprised if KRS fucks up this album too.

Pedro, you never liked KRS to begin with so taking your rec on him would be like taking mine on someone like E-40. You're simply a hater, and anybody who takes what you say about him seriously is a damn fool.

It's probably a 3.25 star album KJ, you will rate it around 4 or so tho, so def check it.

Steve wrote:

It's probably a 3.25 star album KJ, you will rate it around 4 or so tho, so def check it.

Unless you're a fellow hater, then how do you know it's 3.25? You sound as if you haven't listened to him since his self titled solo album. He's made dope music since then (most notably Adventures Of Emceein)

Is he what he used to be? no. If you hold him to those standards then you're bound to be disappointed. But he's far from wack.

Like I said KJ, you are a stan so you are defending this before you even heard it.

Because I fucking downloaded it maybe?

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Like I said KJ, you are a stan so you are defending this before you even heard it.

There have been a few KRS albums that I didn't like, but my point is that you've never liked him so you're the wrong person to judge his music. If you weren't feelin the BDP albums, then of course you're not gonna like his recent stuff.

Eastern Rap Pro wrote:

Steve wrote:

It's probably a 3.25 star album KJ, you will rate it around 4 or so tho, so def check it.

Unless you're a fellow hater, then how do you know it's 3.25? You sound as if you haven't listened to him since his self titled solo album. He's made dope music since then (most notably Adventures Of Emceein)

Is he what he used to be? no. If you hold him to those standards then you're bound to be disappointed. But he's far from wack.

There was flat out wackness on Survival Skills. I'd think you'd be willing to admit that. I forgot what song it's on, but that 8 bar "freestyle" was straight fucking garbage. I'd rather listen to MC Karl Rove.

Eastern Rap Pro wrote:

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Like I said KJ, you are a stan so you are defending this before you even heard it.

There have been a few KRS albums that I didn't like, but my point is that you've never liked him so you're the wrong person to judge his music. If you weren't feelin the BDP albums, then of course you're not gonna like his recent stuff.

See, that's when you talk out of your ass. I like some BDP and some KRS solo material. Just because I don't slob on the man's nob doesn't make me a hater.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Eastern Rap Pro wrote:

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Like I said KJ, you are a stan so you are defending this before you even heard it.

There have been a few KRS albums that I didn't like, but my point is that you've never liked him so you're the wrong person to judge his music. If you weren't feelin the BDP albums, then of course you're not gonna like his recent stuff.

See, that's when you talk out of your ass. I like some BDP and some KRS solo material. Just because I don't slob on the man's nob doesn't make me a hater.

Bullshit! Damn near every word I've ever heard come out of your mouth about him has been negative. You can't even lie convincingly.

Like I said, you are throwing a hissy fit before you even hear the album. I didn't waste 30 minutes of my life listening to this because I am a hater. I was hoping for some dope music to cop. But this is one of KRS' weakest efforts ever.

Whatever man, it's no secret that you've never been a KRS fan. I could pull up some posts with you dissing him but I don't feel like it. I'll just download the album and judge it for myself.

That's all we ask - for you to actually listen to something before you defend. Even if someone was a complete hater - if they still hated to different degrees you could get a useful gauge of the quality of what they are hating.

Too much preaching on this album. Nothing was even remotely interesting really. He's been saying the same shit over and over on each album. How many times do we have to hear him blabbing about how hip hop he is? The beats are fire though.

Can someone PM me a link? I can't find one.

T. Myers wrote:

People who have heard Survival Skills should not be surprised if KRS fucks up this album too.

How was that Survival Skills album?

Wayne wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

People who have heard Survival Skills should not be surprised if KRS fucks up this album too.

How was that Survival Skills album?

I'm not crazy about it cause KRS doesn't bring his A game. Buckshot does his thing though so if you're a big Buckshot fan, which i am not, you may like it more than i do. I know KJ and Powell are bigger Buckshot fans than i am, and they both like it more than i do.

This new album by True Master and Kris has a few good moments but overall neither one of them brings their A game IMO...both the beats and lyrics are lacking


there is no way these are some of True Master's best beats because a bunch of these put me to sleep and Kris is just spitting the same old shit he's been saying for too long and he needs some updated subject matter.....I was pretty disappointed with him on this effort...it's like he just said "Fuck It" and threw together some of his old lyrics from some hidden notebooks and then got True Master to put on some of his most mediorce to sub par beats and said let's make a couple of dollars....this one is that disappointing from both dudes...

I would give it 2.75 stars...a below average effort from both gentlemen!

D.Powell wrote:

This new album by True Master and Kris has a few good moments but overall neither one of them brings their A game IMO...both the beats and lyrics are lacking


there is no way these are some of True Master's best beats because a bunch of these put me to sleep and Kris is just spitting the same old shit he's been saying for too long and he needs some updated subject matter.....I was pretty disappointed with him on this effort...it's like he just said "Fuck It" and threw together some of his old lyrics from some hidden notebooks and then got True Master to put on some of his most mediorce to sub par beats and said let's make a couple of dollars....this one is that disappointing from both dudes...

I would give it 2.75 stars...a below average effort from both gentlemen!

I was looking forward to this one. I was just waiting for one person to say it was alright (i thought it might be you or KJ) and I was gonna buy it. Have you heard Back To The L.A.B.?

T. Myers wrote:

People who have heard Survival Skills should not be surprised if KRS fucks up this album too.

Gotta agree here. KRS is one of my all time favorites, but I did not enjoy hardly any of his work on Survival Skills....disappointing but unsurprising if this turned out the same.

Alan how'd you like those two albums I sent you?

Jeff wrote:

Alan how'd you like those two albums I sent you?

You know, I think I replied to you about them in another thread, but I can't remember where that was. Either way, both albums are dope. Maxilla Blue is the one I like more now...they're from Iowa right? Good stuff. Soulcrate Music (Iowa too?) was good as well, but some of the production/feel of some songs rubbed me the wrong way...or seemed too soft at times to me. Both are nice recommendations though...

We do have a private messaging system for this type of shit.

Alan wrote:

Jeff wrote:

Alan how'd you like those two albums I sent you?

You know, I think I replied to you about them in another thread, but I can't remember where that was. Either way, both albums are dope. Maxilla Blue is the one I like more now...they're from Iowa right? Good stuff. Soulcrate Music (Iowa too?) was good as well, but some of the production/feel of some songs rubbed me the wrong way...or seemed too soft at times to me. Both are nice recommendations though...

Maxilla Blue is from Des Moines (though producer Aeon Grey JUST moved to Cali) and Soulcrate Music is from Colorado (or maybe South Dakota) but were at one point based in Des Moines, and now KC. If you want anymore material by Maxilla let me know.

N3R0, there is already enough wack shit to talk about in this thread. We don't need you bringing in outside wack shit. Thanks, that is all.

See, if you'd actually checked out either of those albums you could talk. But since you haven't and every person that peeped Maxilla Blue liked it...you should stop talking about something you know nothing about.

Come on guys. The album was alright. Not his best, but definately not his worst. I too am a little disappointed in Kris for letting the beats carry him. The opening track is a banger and very harsh lyrics as are some of the other tracks (I also liked the track with RZA). He could have done without the skits, or at least changed up the background music.

But I have it ranked between I Got Next and Kristyles (3.75 stars). I thought it was a solid effort (beatwise and to an extent, lyricwise)

2.75 for me....I'm not sure how you have this album anywhere near Krisstyles which a decent effort by Kris (3.75)....I Got Next was (3.50), both of those are much better than this one....this one was just tired and lazy IMO....both gentlemen were tired and lazy on this project IMO

Sad but I think even us hardcore BDP fans see KRS as mediocre now. I don't think Tru Master, even RZA or Premo could help too much anymore. He is still a must-see live but the charisma and authenticity no longer carries over to his albums.

"Sad but I think even us hardcore BDP fans see KRS as mediocre now. "

KJ and Powell are going to say you don't know anything about hip hop for saying that..

MacK Blades wrote:

Sad but I think even us hardcore BDP fans see KRS as mediocre now.

Speak for yourself. That said, even if KRS never drops another great album again he's still one of the best that ever picked up a mic.

Dude had the late 80's & early 90's locked down. Kris dosen't have anything to prove anymore. He's just doing it for the love of the game. I doubt if he even cares if he ever sells another album. Kris is on top of his game during live shows. Dude performs for a straight 2 hours with no breaks and his freestyles are sick.

KRS has to be the best freestyler in the game. No one can even see Kris on that front.

All the freestyles I've seen KRS do are as wack as his latest albums... don't see how anyone finds any talent in him regurgitating the same shit and calling it a "freestyle" - supernat would murder KRS in freestyles... so would JUICE and a ton of other emcees

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Steve wrote:

It's probably a 3.25 star album KJ, you will rate it around 4 or so tho, so def check it.

Unless you're a fellow hater, then how do you know it's 3.25? You sound as if you haven't listened to him since his self titled solo album. He's made dope music since then (most notably Adventures Of Emceein)

Adventures in Emceein' was one of the best albums of 2008 IMO.

Metahistorical is still better then I am the West. Now there's a kat that should hang up the mic.

I have this album at a generous 3.0.

Although KRS is my GOAT, I really didn't enjoy all the tracks on this album, but I do agree that he isn't doing music for the shine its definitely more for the love and the art, so at times his lyrics might come off as lack luster and bland...

Peace

How old is MBRz?

RHHWND wrote:

Metahistorical is still better then I am the West. Now there's a kat that should hang up the mic.

lmao... that's just preference and bias talking. Cube has nothing to do with the convo, but other than some misguided pop efforts, cube is lyrically murdering kris at this point his his career and has had a better overall career.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

RHHWND wrote:

Metahistorical is still better then I am the West. Now there's a kat that should hang up the mic.

lmao... that's just preference and bias talking. Cube has nothing to do with the convo, but other than some misguided pop efforts, cube is lyrically murdering kris at this point his his career and has had a better overall career.

Kris was kinda wack on this album but let's not get it twisted...Cube has NOT had the better OVERALL career over Kris IMO...they have both had missteps throughout their long careers but I think that Kris OVERALL has had the stronger music career at least IN MY OPINION he has! both of these guys are all-time GREATS though and quite easily!

I can see Kris and Cube being compared to an extent career wise. But I feel Cube had more highs than Krs easily.