Top 10 Greatest (East) #5

Jay-Z

Jay is top 10 to me.

Neither for me

neither for me too

Neither easily for me.

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

Neither easily for me.

SMH! i don't get y'all sometimes. Jay has done plenty to be top 10. Y'all will neither Jay, but vote for some obscure bum.

There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc.

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc.

Ill Bill ain't touching Jay Hova.

I vote top 10...

"There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc."

Agreed. Not with the artists, but with the plenty of emcees comment. Jay would probably make my top 25-30 from the east

Shaun wrote:

"There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc."

Agreed. Not with the artists, but with the plenty of emcees comment. Jay would probably make my top 25-30 from the east

your opinion carries as much weight as Lindsey Lohan considering Royce is your favorite MC. That should automatically disqualify you from this discussion.

...Haystak...

Shaun wrote:

...Haystak...

that would be a nice response, but he's not in my top 50. try again.

Shaun wrote:

Neither for me

cosign

T. Myers wrote:

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc.

Ill Bill ain't touching Jay Hova.

What's Wrong With Bill & The Hour Of Reprisal >>>>>>>>>> anything Jay has done since Blueprint

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc.

Ill Bill ain't touching Jay Hova.

What's Wrong With Bill & The Hour Of Reprisal >>>>>>>>>> anything Jay has done since Blueprint

I don't think either one is better than the Black Album.

Well you got some mayo in your ears from that club sammich

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

Well you got some mayo in your ears from that club sammich

Nah, i got The Black Album at 4.5-50 stars. Neither of Ill Bill's albums are that good. that was a good club sammich though.

Jay's not in my top 10. He's in the top 20.

Indeed Dwight. And What's Wrong With Bill and even The Future Is Now MURKS the Black Album

T. Myers wrote:

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

J. Linker of 0nSlaught3r wrote:

There's plenty of eastcoast emcees I'd pick over Jay. GZA, Ghostface, Redman, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Cormega, Ill Bill (sue me), etc. etc.

Ill Bill ain't touching Jay Hova.

What's Wrong With Bill & The Hour Of Reprisal >>>>>>>>>> anything Jay has done since Blueprint

I don't think either one is better than the Black Album.

or American Gangster

But anyway, The Jigga Man is Top 10 both in the East and overall.

"Indeed Dwight. And What's Wrong With Bill and even The Future Is Now MURKS the Black Album"

The Black Album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything you've named and the rest of Jay's albums

Reasonable Doubt > Future is Now=Black Album > Blueprint > Whats Wrong With Bill

theres my opinion

Bottom line is....

Jay Z >>>>>>>>>>>> Ill Bill

jay does not make my top 10...neither does nas or biggie.

Steve wrote:

jay does not make my top 10...neither does nas or biggie.

Yet you criticize others, SMH.

LMAO KJ I'm just not a pop bopper like you. Who would you take off this list:

Rakim
KRS-One
Redman
Chuck D
Kool G Rap
Pharoahe Monche
Ghostface Killah
Black Thought
Big Daddy Kane
LL Cool J

Cuz your ass has all 3 in.

Steve all the rappers on your list are very respectable but Chuck, Ghost, and Redman could not see Jay, Big, and Nas to me.

Personal preference I guess, cuz Biggie didn't do enough and Jay and Nas are too inconsistent IMO.

Something about Jay-Z that sure bring the haters out. And I know just because you do not prefer Jay does not make you a hater but I know for him to have 9 neither votes there's some hate. Especially by underground geeks and wanna be hip hop purist.

^ i agree underground nerds hate on him unfairly but hes not in my top 10 from the east and thats not me hating on Jay ive just never really felt him too much. Hes probably in my top 30 MC's, ive never been a huge fan of his voice either

Jay-Z would make my top 15-20, and I do feel Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are 5 star classics...his other shit is hit or miss to me though.

You already know 75% of these dudes listen to nothing but haystak, esham, atmosphere, etc. so why be surprised?

Slang Editorial wrote:

^ i agree underground nerds hate on him unfairly but hes not in my top 10 from the east and thats not me hating on Jay ive just never really felt him too much. Hes probably in my top 30 MC's, ive never been a huge fan of his voice either

I can respect man...hey I catch hell everytime I tell someone Rakim would not make my top 40. But I know he is one of the greats objectively and could not vote neither on him with a str8 face.

I listen to none of said artists, except Atmosphere sometimes. So in yo face!

Steve wrote:

Jay-Z would make my top 15-20, and I do feel Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are 5 star classics...his other shit is hit or miss to me though.

You already know 75% of these dudes listen to nothing but haystak, esham, atmosphere, etc. so why be surprised?

Very true....

KRob86 wrote:

Steve wrote:

Jay-Z would make my top 15-20, and I do feel Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are 5 star classics...his other shit is hit or miss to me though.

You already know 75% of these dudes listen to nothing but haystak, esham, atmosphere, etc. so why be surprised?

Very true....

co sign hed make my top 15 or so from the east probly top 30 overall....

Steve wrote:

LMAO KJ I'm just not a pop bopper like you. Who would you take off this list:

Rakim
KRS-One
Redman
Chuck D
Kool G Rap
Pharoahe Monche
Ghostface Killah
Black Thought
Big Daddy Kane
LL Cool J

Cuz your ass has all 3 in.

I'm just now seeing this, and fuck you I'm not a pop bopper I just like dope hip-hop! What has Nas done that's pop?

I'm not gonna say anything negative about the guys on your list because I respect them all, but here's MY Top 10 for the East.

Biggie
Nas
Rakim
KRS-One
Jay Z
Black Thought
Big Daddy Kane
Q-Tip
Kool G Rap
GZA

KRob86 wrote:

Something about Jay-Z that sure bring the haters out. And I know just because you do not prefer Jay does not make you a hater but I know for him to have 9 neither votes there's some hate. Especially by underground geeks and wanna be hip hop purist.

Co-Sign.

As for Steve saying that Nas and Jay are inconsistent, I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of the albums that both men have put out are at least 4 stars.

I only have one Nas album and two Jay albums rated under 4 stars. 95% of every rapper who ever spit would kill to have a career like either of those guys.

Jay is top 10 easily

KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Something about Jay-Z that sure bring the haters out. And I know just because you do not prefer Jay does not make you a hater but I know for him to have 9 neither votes there's some hate. Especially by underground geeks and wanna be hip hop purist.

Co-Sign.

As for Steve saying that Nas and Jay are inconsistent, I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of the albums that both men have put out are at least 4 stars.

I only have one Nas album and two Jay albums rated under 4 stars. 95% of every rapper who ever spit would kill to have a career like either of those guys.

None of my guys dropped under 4. And there are a ton of other ones too.

Steve wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Something about Jay-Z that sure bring the haters out. And I know just because you do not prefer Jay does not make you a hater but I know for him to have 9 neither votes there's some hate. Especially by underground geeks and wanna be hip hop purist.

Co-Sign.

As for Steve saying that Nas and Jay are inconsistent, I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of the albums that both men have put out are at least 4 stars.

I only have one Nas album and two Jay albums rated under 4 stars. 95% of every rapper who ever spit would kill to have a career like either of those guys.

None of my guys dropped under 4. And there are a ton of other ones too.

None of your guys dropped an album under 4? BULLSHIT!

Redman- Malpractice 3.5
Chuck D- Musik N Hour Message is 3 stars (and that's being kind) and a couple others that PE dropped after He Got Game were under 4.
Kool G Rap- Nothing post Polo is 4 stars except for maybe 4,5,6
Ghostface Killah-Bulletproof Wallets was AWFUL!! I can't see more than 3 stars for that album.
Big Daddy Kane- Daddy's Home was 3.5, Prince Of Darkness and Veteranz Day were horrendous.
LL Cool J- Phenomenon was average save for 4,3,2,1. 14 Shots To The Dome SUCKED ASS (Even LL HIMSELF said he was ashamed to have dropped that album) as did 10, The DEFinition, and Todd Smith.

Don't you love how people can interpret things? My jay-Z ratings would FAR differ from yours, as would my Nas ratings.

Steve why would you take a potshot at me and Linker when you're arguing with KJ? That makes no sense.

At least he didn't take a shot at Alan/Parker...

KJ Styles wrote:

Steve wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

KRob86 wrote:

Something about Jay-Z that sure bring the haters out. And I know just because you do not prefer Jay does not make you a hater but I know for him to have 9 neither votes there's some hate. Especially by underground geeks and wanna be hip hop purist.

Co-Sign.

As for Steve saying that Nas and Jay are inconsistent, I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of the albums that both men have put out are at least 4 stars.

I only have one Nas album and two Jay albums rated under 4 stars. 95% of every rapper who ever spit would kill to have a career like either of those guys.

None of my guys dropped under 4. And there are a ton of other ones too.

None of your guys dropped an album under 4? BULLSHIT!

Redman- Malpractice 3.5
Chuck D- Musik N Hour Message is 3 stars (and that's being kind) and a couple others that PE dropped after He Got Game were under 4.
Kool G Rap- Nothing post Polo is 4 stars except for maybe 4,5,6
Ghostface Killah-Bulletproof Wallets was AWFUL!! I can't see more than 3 stars for that album.
Big Daddy Kane- Daddy's Home was 3.5, Prince Of Darkness and Veteranz Day were horrendous.
LL Cool J- Phenomenon was average save for 4,3,2,1. 14 Shots To The Dome SUCKED ASS (Even LL HIMSELF said he was ashamed to have dropped that album) as did 10, The DEFinition, and Todd Smith.

Okay KJ I gotta review your ratings cause some of them seem waaaay off man..lol

Redman's is fine
Musik N Hour Mess-Age was a 4 star album, there was nothing overly major wrong with that album IMO
Agreed on G Rap
Bulletproof Wallets was a 4 star album by Ghost unfairly slept on IMO
Agreed on Kane
14 Shots To The Dome was a 3.5 to 4 star album, The DEFinition was a 3.5 star album and a few of those beats that Timbaland threw him were fire on there...the others I agree with