Hip Hop Beef: Day 4 (The Notorious BIG vs. 2Pac)

Discuss.

2Pac, easy.

Biggie was too scared to ever respond, he had Puffy do his dirty work

Pac

Hit Em Up>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No poll?

Pac clearly won this beef

Slang Editorial wrote:

Pac clearly won this beef

You would be surprised how murky that is to some people

PAC. ANYONE SAYING OTHERWISE IS A BIGGIE FAN.

Seeing that Biggie never responded to HiT Em Up or dissed Pac, there really isn't a poll needed IMO

THERE WAS NOT REASON FOR BIGGIE TO RESPOND. HE KNEW HE WAS A LOSER IN THIS BATTLE.

Honestly, neither man won this battle. Between that and Suge Knight, it ultimately cost both of them their lives.

Honestly, 2Pac annihilated Biggie

2Pac WON and then died.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

2Pac WON and then died.

I don't see how you win a battle when the other guy didn't bother to respond. Biggie wasn't afraid to respond, he just saw it as a waste of time and honestly it was.

Also, when a beef costs you your life then you've won nothing. You can be as biased as you wanna be but that's the truth.

This was NEVER even a real beef...this was Pac feeling up his own man juice and loving every minute of it...Biggie never responded to him directly...Puff advised him not too and just concentrate on getting money which is what he did.....Dr.Dre in the future when he realized that this Pac stupidity was creating an "east-west" war and fuckin up money and projects in hip-hop called Pac out on it too and in turn Pac attacked him as well...lol

I can clearly see now why lil stevie has Pac's penis so far down his throat....they have a bunch in common the only difference is that one of them is a known legend and the other one isn't....

on this thread I'm going with NEITHER....meaning there was never any real beef since Biggie clearly didn't respond.....

2Pac fucked Biggie's wife, sold more records, is a bigger legend, and Hit Em Up is regarded as the most lethal diss track ever.


Stan much, KJ?

Pedro if you think there should be a winner in a battle where the other guy never responded, then that's cool. Biggie never wanted there to be an East Coast/West Coast Beef. Ultimately it cost both of them their lives and it cost us a lot of good music that could have been made.

Biggie vs. Pac became east/west. Plenty people responded AND you guys are being delusional when you think Biggie didn't take shots.

If someone runs up to you and says "FUCK YOU BITCH I WILL FUCK YOU UP DO SOMETHING" and you don't do shit, guess what? You got punked and you lost. It is what is it.

LOL, Powell is such an idiot.

Pac decried the war all along, that was an NY media creation. Not to mention his "One Nation" plans or his album with BCC.

DUM-MAY

Steve wrote:

2Pac fucked Biggie's wife, sold more records, is a bigger legend, and Hit Em Up is regarded as the most lethal diss track ever.


Stan much, KJ?

this n*i*g*g*a is SICK....straight up....oh and show me the proof that you have of Pac "fuckin" Biggie's wife??? the only I have is Pac's word which wasn't too solid at the time......stevie you wouldn't remember a lot of this stuff anyway...you were only about 10 years old...ya lil bitch....lol...get off 2Pac's dick...that shit is WACK mane!

"If Faith had twins she'd probably have two Pacs, get it, 2-Pac?"

Steve wrote:

LOL, Powell is such an idiot.

Pac decried the war all along, that was an NY media creation. Not to mention his "One Nation" plans or his album with BCC.

DUM-MAY

Pac was riding out the east/west war to the fullest stoooopid....but like I just said you don't remember any of the events as they were happening because at the time you were still being breast fed by your mother and in diapers.....you clueless bitch....

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

If someone runs up to you and says "FUCK YOU BITCH I WILL FUCK YOU UP DO SOMETHING" and you don't do shit, guess what? You got punked and you lost. It is what is it.

That's a juvenile mentality. If they're really feelin froggy then they should jump. Otherwise all they're done is write out a verbal check that they physically can't cash.

Steve wrote:

"If Faith had twins she'd probably have two Pacs, get it, 2-Pac?"

is this your proof stupid???

ya clueless bitch.....lol

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

If someone runs up to you and says "FUCK YOU BITCH I WILL FUCK YOU UP DO SOMETHING" and you don't do shit, guess what? You got punked and you lost. It is what is it.

That's a juvenile mentality. If they're really feelin froggy then they should jump. Otherwise all they're done is write out a verbal check that they physically can't cash.

No, they could physically cash it, it's the person who punks out who can't cash it. Biggie took shots at pac, biggies friends responded to Pac. Biggie just knew he lost from the jump so he did the honorable thing and did not respond. You stans are trying to stand up for biggie to the death, which is really fucking pitiful in my opinion.

"It's not about East and West, it's about Power and Money..."

Steve wrote:

2Pac fucked Biggie's wife, sold more records, is a bigger legend, and Hit Em Up is regarded as the most lethal diss track ever.


Stan much, KJ?

There's no proof of Pac fucking Faith other than Pac running his mouth. The record sales and legacy had NOTHING to do with the beef because many Pac fans bought Biggie records as well. And Hit Em Up is NOT the most lethal diss track ever. Most personal, perhaps but not the most lethal.

The amount of stan-ing going on is RIDICULOUS in here. I posted clear reasons why 2Pac won, and nobody can refute them. You guys keep ya mouths on that fatties dick, maybe y'alls daddy's will get they dick sucked in the process.

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Steve wrote:

2Pac fucked Biggie's wife, sold more records, is a bigger legend, and Hit Em Up is regarded as the most lethal diss track ever.


Stan much, KJ?

There's no proof of Pac fucking Faith other than Pac running his mouth. The record sales and legacy had NOTHING to do with the beef because many Pac fans bought Biggie records as well. And Hit Em Up is NOT the most lethal diss track ever. Most personal, perhaps but not the most lethal.

So why does it have anything to do with the LL/Canibus beef dum-may?

And it is widely regarded as the best diss track ever dum-may!

I'd also like to mention Wayne is a bitch for not making this a poll like the others, god damn stans.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

If someone runs up to you and says "FUCK YOU BITCH I WILL FUCK YOU UP DO SOMETHING" and you don't do shit, guess what? You got punked and you lost. It is what is it.

That's a juvenile mentality. If they're really feelin froggy then they should jump. Otherwise all they're done is write out a verbal check that they physically can't cash.

No, they could physically cash it, it's the person who punks out who can't cash it. Biggie took shots at pac, biggies friends responded to Pac. Biggie just knew he lost from the jump so he did the honorable thing and did not respond. You stans are trying to stand up for biggie to the death, which is really fucking pitiful in my opinion.

Stans??? That's what you and Pac Jr are being! Biggie could have responded, but Diddy told him not to. That's called being classy, not being a punk. Again that's a juvenile mentality IMO but y'all can believe what y'all want.

I'm callin it straight down the middle. If someone doesn't respond to you in a rap battle, then there is no rap battle, plain and simple.

Steve wrote:

"It's not about East and West, it's about Power and Money..."

the "East/West" thang added to Pac's legacy.....everyone knows that...he created a situation which costs his dumb ass his own life....Biggie's life....and a few others.....this shit was stupidity not a hip-hop battle....no other "battles" have resulted in loss of life stoopid....stevie you truly are one stooopid motherfucker my dude.....lol

Steve wrote:

The amount of stan-ing going on is RIDICULOUS in here. I posted clear reasons why 2Pac won, and nobody can refute them. You guys keep ya mouths on that fatties dick, maybe y'alls daddy's will get they dick sucked in the process.

?????? oh my bad good one stevie?????

"I posted clear reasons why 2 Pac won and nobody can refute them"


That's the best example of stanning right there.

If you don't respond to a scathing diss you lose, plain and simple.

Steve wrote:

Big Daddy Kool wrote:

Steve wrote:

2Pac fucked Biggie's wife, sold more records, is a bigger legend, and Hit Em Up is regarded as the most lethal diss track ever.


Stan much, KJ?

There's no proof of Pac fucking Faith other than Pac running his mouth. The record sales and legacy had NOTHING to do with the beef because many Pac fans bought Biggie records as well. And Hit Em Up is NOT the most lethal diss track ever. Most personal, perhaps but not the most lethal.

So why does it have anything to do with the LL/Canibus beef dum-may?

And it is widely regarded as the best diss track ever dum-may!

still borrowing my words huh??? dum-may! lol

Pac did not create the east/west beef. It's as simple as that. Pac was working with east coast artists(Meth and Buckshot come to mind). He had a problem with Big and a few others. The coastal beef was a media creation and fans sucked that nonsense up.

http://music.ign.com/articles/927/927081p4.html

http://www.xxlmag.com/Features/2005/june/diss-songs/index.html

"Many songs off of Biggie's last studio effort, Life After Death, such as "Long Kiss Goodnight", have been interpreted as a rebuttal against all of Shakur's slurs insulting the Brooklyn rapper and his label, Bad Boy Records."

"On the night of November 30, 1994, Tupac Shakur was shot five times and robbed after entering the lobby of Quad Recording Studios in Manhattan by two armed men in army fatigues. He later accused Sean Combs,[1] Andre Harrell, and Biggie Smalls—whom he saw after the shooting—of setting him up, or at least knowing who the culprits were. Tupac Shakur and many rap fans interpreted the song to be a diss track mocking his robbery/shooting in Manhattan, New York, even though Biggie and producer Sean Combs have always asserted that the song was recorded months earlier. The song became highly controversial, adding fuel to the East Coast-West Coast hip hop rivalry. Despite the controversy, Biggie frequently performed the song live, perhaps to intimidate or challenge his rival during the widely publicized feud, as seen in the film Notorious. One live performance took place in California, further promoting the East Coast-West Coast hip hop rivalry."


Biggie did respond you LAMES

Steve, you had to know that everyone wasn't gonna agree with you but you had to resort to whining, bitching, and name calling? Fuck this shit, I'm doing what I should have done a long time ago, and that's puttin your ass on ignore.

Highsmith wrote:

"I posted clear reasons why 2 Pac won and nobody can refute them"


That's the best example of stanning right there.

Shut ya round ass up Bismith

Steve wrote:

http://music.ign.com/articles/927/927081p4.html

http://www.xxlmag.com/Features/2005/june/diss-songs/index.html

"Many songs off of Biggie's last studio effort, Life After Death, such as "Long Kiss Goodnight", have been interpreted as a rebuttal against all of Shakur's slurs insulting the Brooklyn rapper and his label, Bad Boy Records."

"On the night of November 30, 1994, Tupac Shakur was shot five times and robbed after entering the lobby of Quad Recording Studios in Manhattan by two armed men in army fatigues. He later accused Sean Combs,[1] Andre Harrell, and Biggie Smalls—whom he saw after the shooting—of setting him up, or at least knowing who the culprits were. Tupac Shakur and many rap fans interpreted the song to be a diss track mocking his robbery/shooting in Manhattan, New York, even though Biggie and producer Sean Combs have always asserted that the song was recorded months earlier. The song became highly controversial, adding fuel to the East Coast-West Coast hip hop rivalry. Despite the controversy, Biggie frequently performed the song live, perhaps to intimidate or challenge his rival during the widely publicized feud, as seen in the film Notorious. One live performance took place in California, further promoting the East Coast-West Coast hip hop rivalry."


Biggie did respond you LAMES

Have been INTERPRETED...you stooopid bitch....show me the proof of a song when Biggie said some shit like "Yo Pac....you peanut head motherfucker this one goes out to you" or like when Nas said "FUCK Jay-Z".....show me a response otherwise you have nothing.....lil stevie

The East Coast stans keep getting shut down round after round....HILARIOUS!

T. Myers wrote:

Pac did not create the east/west beef. It's as simple as that. Pac was working with east coast artists(Meth and Buckshot come to mind). He had a problem with Big and a few others. The coastal beef was a media creation and fans sucked that nonsense up.

that is true Terry.....but Pac rode that shit out until the wheels came off it man...and he lost his life because of it...so did Biggie plain and simple....Biggie tried to distance himself from that stupid shit man...Pac attached himself to it....these are facts Terry

Not even close to being facts stupid, find one instance where Pac attached himself to it.


And Biggie performing Who Shot Ya in Cali wasn't being part of it? Or Puffy dissin' Pac?

STAN LAND STAN LAND STAN LAND

What does that picture PROVE??? is she sucking his dick?? licking his balls??

yo Stevie is SICK mane...and funny at the same damn time...and to think this dildo was begging for forgiveness like a lil bitch about 2 months ago to keep posting on here...I'll go pull up my proof if you need me too stevie...see I can get proof of that ya begging bitch...lmao

She's on the floor with her legs open in the background of the picture...GTFOH.....Lmmfao

"“I had to think of how I would reassure Big that nothing happened with ‘Pac,” Faith says in her book. “I hadn’t been completely innocent. While I was in Los Angeles, I’d had sex occasionally with Terry Dollars. And I’d even seen Roger, the NBA player, a few times when he was in town. So technically, I had cheated on Big. But not with Tupac.”

Faith does also document how her relationship was with Tupac as she cites an occasion where she went to pick up a check from ‘Pac for a guest appearance on a song. She explains in great detail the paranoia surrounding Tupac and how he felt that he was set up by Biggie and Diddy. Upon arriving at the studio, she recalls how ‘Pac treated her.

“'The situation with the money is like this,’ he said. ‘If I give it to you, then you my bitch.

‘Your what,” I said. I felt a chill go up my back.

‘You heard me. You gotta be my bitch’.

I got up and moved farther away from where he was standing.

‘I’m not anybody’s bitch,’ I said, trying to keep my voice steady.

‘You Biggie’s bitch.’”

From there, things went from bad to worse according to Faith.

“‘So you not trying to suck my dick?’

‘What!’ I screamed. ‘What are you talking about?’

Tupac raised his voice. ‘You know you want to suck my dick, bitch! Don’t fucking lie.’ I burst into tears and grabbed my purse. ‘I have to get outta here.’

Tupac kept going. He was making no sense, cursing and yelling. He said something about Big and the East Coast.

‘But…but…I…thought y’all were friends,’ I said. At this point, I could barely speak clearly because I was crying so hard.

‘Whatever. You know you wanna be my bitch’ he said, before going into the bedroom area and slamming the door.”"


I love her lying here, it's hilarious. I can picture Pac sitting on a throne and yelling, LMAO. my fave is:

Tupac kept going. He was making no sense, cursing and yelling. He said something about Big and the East Coast.

LOL

I have that book stupid and no where on there does she say SHE FUCKED 2PAC....you even want to lie to get your daddy some extra pussy???

LMAOOOOOO!


WACK my "dude" just WACK

I never said she did in her book DUM-MAY. Learn to read mane (mayne)


baby bubba????