Mobb Deep Vs. UGK

No, they had a more raw, unpolished sound, they weren't as violent or abrasive.

Steve wrote:

No, they had a more raw, unpolished sound, they weren't as violent or abrasive.

Haha I'd say they were equally violent initially, they just used more metaphors

Well if they used metaphors for violence it wouldn't be as apparent or vulgar, therefore less abrasive.

Steve wrote:

I just think you prefer UGK - Mobb is pretty abrasive and might be too brash for you.

I listened to The Infamous & Hell On Earth (my favorite...funny enough) a lot years back. The pothead in me likes the sound and style of UGK more though. Spliffs and UGK go hand in hand.

I like UGK a lot, I just prefer Mobb Deep.

Sure they dropped the worst LP between the two (Blood Money) but they also dropped the best LP between the two (The Infamous).

Prodigy has fallen off some, but Bun B isn't an elite MC without Pimp C and his beats. His solos are good but not great. I'd take HNIC over all of Bun's solos.

It could be argued that UGK has been more consistent, but I just feel that Prodigy and Havoc have hit higher highs than the Pimp and the Bun.

Overall, I have no problem with someone preferring UGK. They are my 3rd or 4th fav Southern group. But Mobb Deep wins for this listener.

Steve wrote:

Well if they used metaphors for violence it wouldn't be as apparent or vulgar, therefore less abrasive.

Partially a reason why I don't listen to Mobb much anymore. Their lyrics are unbelievable...literally from what I hear.

Ummm steve is clearly not familiar with UGK.

Steve wrote:

Well if they used metaphors for violence it wouldn't be as apparent or vulgar, therefore less abrasive.

Well I disproved your claim of more violence. And Mobb Deep were certainly violent but they didnt get very graphic...I wouldnt say they were too abrasive.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Ummm steve is clearly not familiar with UGK.

Depends on how you interpret it. UGK is definitely more real.

How are they more real pounds

UGK has a song called pregnant pussy about fucking women when they are pregnant... you can't get much more graphic, vulgar, or abrasive than that.

Pimp C on Something Good:

Bet it feels funny when ya doin 69
Knowin that ya sippin on all my jimmy wine
And when ya get a kiss, do ya feel bad
knowin that ya swallowed all the skeeter that I had?


Bun B's entire first verse on short texas... I mean.. UGK made it's name for saying whatever so I don't get his point.

Steve wrote:

How are they more real pounds

I guess I should say Mobb Deep sounds more unreal to me. A couple of art students who met in college? Come on...

Yeah, Bun has done a lot of jail time hasn't he? *pause*


And they met in high school, and Pac went to a school for performing arts, he isn't real either? LMAO you have ZERO idea of what you are talking about bro.

Steve wrote:

Yeah, Bun has done a lot of jail time hasn't he? *pause*


And they met in high school, and Pac went to a school for performing arts, he isn't real either? LMAO you have ZERO idea of what you are talking about bro.

People say pause when something is gay...are you saying Bun B got raped? Hater.

And Bun & Pimp C met in HS too...LMAO @ pounds.


Stick to Minnesota, bro.

Steve wrote:

Yeah, Bun has done a lot of jail time hasn't he? *pause*


And they met in high school, and Pac went to a school for performing arts, he isn't real either? LMAO you have ZERO idea of what you are talking about bro.

Perhaps. I've heard a lot about their lyrics being fake according to their own experiences. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. UGK lyrics usually sound quite a bit more like real life experience to me in comparison.

Steve wrote:

And Bun & Pimp C met in HS too...LMAO @ pounds.


Stick to Minnesota, bro.

I've always heard MD met in art school...for many years. Not like that means anything.

I've just always felt that it was far-fetched that they lived this life in their lyrics. Rappers lie all the time....and I'd bet MD are a couple of them...

Steve wrote:

And Bun & Pimp C met in HS too...LMAO @ pounds.

Mobb Deep met at age 18 (college age)
UGK met at age 15 (high school age)

Once again Pounds, stick to what you know, for the love of fucking God.

"Havoc and Prodigy started rhyming in 1986 when they met at the High School of Art and Design in New York City."

"When Havoc and Prodigy were 18, they released their debut album as Mobb Deep, called Juvenile Hell, which was led by the single "Peer Pressure."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobb_Deep

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:h9frxqqhld6e

http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Mobb_Deep/Biography/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065067/bio

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/mobb+deep/biography.html

http://www.last.fm/music/Mobb+Deep/+wiki

Hmmm, nothing supports your information. Where did you read it?

Here's some more:

http://www.rapcentral.co.uk/mobbdeepIndex.html

Here's a bio just for Prodigy:

http://www.sweetslyrics.com/bio-Prodigy%20of%20Mobb%20Deep.html

All say they met at Graphic Design school.

What "High School" starts at age 18?

Pounds are your dumb? My info. came from your first link.

It's not "High School" in a real sense though. lol...they call it post-secondary.

And they all say they met in high school.


you must be high. I'm done with this.

What rap group first meets when their cd is released? It RELEASED at age 18....keep digging your hole deeper dummy, lol.

"Mobb Deep is an American"

"Mobb Deep were also judges"

"just another hardcore group with little to distinguish it from the rest of the hip-hop world"

Got those quotes from the same article

Wikipedia? Did you edit it to help your cause?

Graphic Design high school though? What the fuck is that? lol

I'm done too. I just find it interesting that this passes for "high school".

Steve wrote:

What rap group first meets when their cd is released? It RELEASED at age 18....keep digging your hole deeper dummy, lol.

Wrong. They formed in 1992, and their debut dropped in 1993.

"Prodigy (b. Albert Johnson) and Havoc (b. Kejuan Muchita) have been rapping together ever since they met as teenagers while attending the Graphic Arts High School in Manhatten"

From IMDB

Half wrote:

"Mobb Deep is an American"

"Mobb Deep were also judges"

"just another hardcore group with little to distinguish it from the rest of the hip-hop world"

Got those quotes from the same article

lol...what article? I just posted a bunch...I didn't read them all.

GUYS YOU ARE A PART OF HISTORY THE MOST USER RECORD HAS JUST BEEN BROKEN

30 USERS

OH MY GOD

Alan wrote:

Half wrote:

"Mobb Deep is an American"

"Mobb Deep were also judges"

"just another hardcore group with little to distinguish it from the rest of the hip-hop world"

Got those quotes from the same article

lol...what article? I just posted a bunch...I didn't read them all.

Haha it was the wiki, I was making fun of Steve's quotes

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO YOU ARE A MORON.


Prodigy born 1974, NOVEMBER.

CD RELEASED 1993, APRIL.


SERIOUSLY GET ON MY LEVEL LMAO!

Unless you wanna feel stupid some more and spit more inaccuracies, if that's the case keep going.

Steve wrote:

"Prodigy (b. Albert Johnson) and Havoc (b. Kejuan Muchita) have been rapping together ever since they met as teenagers while attending the Graphic Arts High School in Manhatten"

From IMDB

Yeah, in 1992 when they were 18, not 1986 when they were 12 like you previously stated.

Steve wrote:

"Prodigy (b. Albert Johnson) and Havoc (b. Kejuan Muchita) have been rapping together ever since they met as teenagers while attending the Graphic Arts High School in Manhatten"

From IMDB

Manhattan is misspelled....lmao

Half wrote:

GUYS YOU ARE A PART OF HISTORY THE MOST USER RECORD HAS JUST BEEN BROKEN

30 USERS

OH MY GOD

for real? lol

Alan wrote:

Half wrote:

GUYS YOU ARE A PART OF HISTORY THE MOST USER RECORD HAS JUST BEEN BROKEN

30 USERS

OH MY GOD

for real? lol

Yep. Go to the home page and read the info at the bottom.

We're really arguing/debating about absolutely nothing, Steve. lol

My opinion of them is unchanged even if they were rhyming in diapers. lol

alright, as a group I'd say Mobb Deep and UGK are as close to a push as possible. I may slightly prefer UGK just cause their discog is deeper and arguably as dope.

What i do have a problem with is people picking Bun B over Prodigy. Really? As much as i love Bun, Prodigy would have ate him up. I'm not sure why the fuck P has dropped off a cliff so to speak, but P from Shook Ones, Drop A Gem On Em, and Quiet Storm would have got the best of Bun and quite a few other dudes IMO

T. Myers wrote:

alright, as a group I'd say Mobb Deep and UGK are as close to a push as possible. I may slightly prefer UGK just cause their discog is deeper and arguably as dope.

What i do have a problem with is people picking Bun B over Prodigy. Really? As much as i love Bun, Prodigy would have ate him up. I'm not sure why the fuck P has dropped off a cliff so to speak, but P from Shook Ones, Drop A Gem On Em, and Quiet Storm would have got the best of Bun and quite a few other dudes IMO

I'm not sure we were picking between who would win in a battle, as opposed to who is the better artist. That latter is quite debatable.

P in his prime was one of the best rappers of all time easily, P wins and i love Bun


and Steve did you just list the Outlawz on the level of those other groups???? hahahahahahahahaha seriously? the fucking Outlawz??

As originally formed, with Mopreme, Pac and Big Syke, of course they are better.



turtle.

Steve wrote:

Bun B is cool for white people and Mexicans only. Hence the 2 votes only.

Damn, did my melanin rub off?

T. Myers wrote:

alright, as a group I'd say Mobb Deep and UGK are as close to a push as possible. I may slightly prefer UGK just cause their discog is deeper and arguably as dope.

What i do have a problem with is people picking Bun B over Prodigy. Really? As much as i love Bun, Prodigy would have ate him up. I'm not sure why the fuck P has dropped off a cliff so to speak, but P from Shook Ones, Drop A Gem On Em, and Quiet Storm would have got the best of Bun and quite a few other dudes IMO

I agree, Prodigy was a beast back then. No version of Bun is fucking with P in his prime. And like I said before, HNIC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any of Bun's solo albums.

Fuck P's prime and while I agree that in his prime he was better, BUn still gets the edge when we look at them from then to now. Bun was helluva in hisprime but he has not lost his skills as bad as P has. So fuck the past...Bun is killing him right now.

KRob86 wrote:

Fuck P's prime and while I agree that in his prime he was better, BUn still gets the edge when we look at them from then to now. Bun was helluva in hisprime but he has not lost his skills as bad as P has. So fuck the past...Bun is killing him right now.

BULLSHIT....obviously you have never heard any of P's solo efforts because all of them are better than Bun's joints....

P has lost a step or two but when you were as high up as he was then I would say that right now he's down to Bun's level....these 2 should NEVER be compared in anyway, shape of form, because there is no competition to notice right here...one of these emcees reached incredible highs and the other one pretty much has stayed middle ground throughout his entire career......


but if there is one thing I'm certain about it's this:

Prodigy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wil-lay


Bun B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wil-lay



and both of them are kickin his ass quite easily especially Prodigy....that is like comparing Superman to a toddler

KRob86 wrote:

Fuck P's prime and while I agree that in his prime he was better, BUn still gets the edge when we look at them from then to now. Bun was helluva in hisprime but he has not lost his skills as bad as P has. So fuck the past...Bun is killing him right now.

So the fact that Bun is better at this moment makes him better than P? I guess we should say Kevin Durant is a better basketball player than Magic Johnson cause right now he'd kill him on the court. You're acting like P was a flash in the pan. The skill he displayed over multiple albums can't be ignored. Never has Bun been mentioned as being top anything. A legit case could be made for Prodigy. There was a 5 year period from 1995-2000 where i could safely say P could have been the best mc in NY. During that time he was every bit as good(even better than some) as the bigger named MC's. Give me those 5 years of P over Bun any day.

Bun B has been held high on people's list in the south for decades. I'm sure in the midwest and east he wasn't but down here he's rap elite all day.

Prodigy was a beast on the mic for what 4 albums (including his 1st solo album). Bun has been in lyrical shape since day one until current. So that is why I took Bun over Prod. Prod use to be a top 20 fav of mine but he fell quicker than the Dow Jones. And Bun's flow murks Prod alone I mean fa real.

And I agree that Prod solo's are waay betta than Bun's. But not lyrically but because of betta beats and betta sounding albums period overall.