Hip Hop Hall of Fame 3

Another batch for you ladies.

Lupe Fiasco
Ludacris
Souls of Mischief
Pharoahe Monch
OC
Onyx
El-Producto
Puff Daddy
The Coup
Tha Alkaholiks
Mac Dre

Luda & Diddy would probably be the only 2 to make it in.

Lupe
Luda
Onyx
& sadly... Diddy

(all of these are 'at some point', no where near first ballot... just sayin..)

Lupe Fiasco (nope...it's still way to early for him to even be in the running, tell him to check back after his next 2 or 3 albums and then we will see)
Ludacris (yes-second ballot)
Souls of Mischief (nope)
Pharoahe Monch (nope)
OC (nope)
Onyx (yes-third ballot)
El-Producto (nope)
Puff Daddy (yes-first ballot)
The Coup (nope)
Tha Alkaholiks (nope)
Mac Dre (yes-second ballot)



for those questioning why Diddy is a first ballot hip-hop hall of famer, I would say go and do your homework on what he's meant to hip-hop music and culture in general and then comeback and talk to me.....I'm not saying he's always been a positive force on the culture but he has been a HUGE force nonetheless...the man had his own era in the music-(the shiny suit era)

D.Powell wrote:

Lupe Fiasco (nope...it's still way to early for him to even be in the running, tell him to check back after his next 2 or 3 albums and then we will see)
Ludacris (yes-second ballot)
Souls of Mischief (nope)
Pharoahe Monch (nope)
OC (nope)
Onyx (yes-third ballot)
El-Producto (nope)
Puff Daddy (yes-first ballot)
The Coup (nope)
Tha Alkaholiks (nope)
Mac Dre (yes-second ballot)



for those questioning why Diddy is a first ballot hip-hop hall of famer, I would say go and do your homework on what he's meant to hip-hop music and culture in general and then comeback and talk to me.....I'm not saying he's always been a positive force on the culture but he has been a HUGE force nonetheless...the man had his own era in the music-(the shiny suit era)

Even if it's not traditional hip hop, i would include his work with Uptown and MJB. I assume you're doing the same, right?

Yes I am Terry...I'm including everything he has done throughout his entire career and that's why he's a first ballot hip-hop hall of famer IMO.....his inlfuence on the culture is just too undeniable for him not to be first ballot IMO

from the dress, to the "swag", the music, Biggie Smalls, Bad Boy, ciroc vodka, Uptown MCA, Mary J Blige, Jodeci, the east-west conflict, the shiny suit era, I mean this guy will certainly be remembered that's for damn sure....whether that's good or bad he's first ballot IMO!

Lupe Fiasco (no)
Ludacris (maybe)
Souls of Mischief (no)
Pharoahe Monch (no)
OC (no)
Onyx (maybe)
El-Producto (no)
Puff Daddy (yes)
The Coup (no)
Tha Alkaholiks (no)
Mac Dre (no)

Lupe Fiasco (no)
Ludacris (yes)
Souls of Mischief (no)
Pharoahe Monch (maybe especially when taking OK's work into play)
OC (hell no)
Onyx (yes)
El-Producto (maybe)
Puff Daddy (hell yes)
The Coup (no)
Tha Alkaholiks (no)
Mac Dre (yes)

oh and Monch is a yes... i missed him some how.

Lupe Fiasco - never... unless he somehow manages to drop at least 2-3 classics...
Ludacris - definitely
Souls of Mischief - not sure, not enough material as a group...
Pharoahe Monch - another one with not enough material... or impact...
OC - no, unless he gets in as part of DITC
Onyx - maybe... big impact early, but faded,
El-Producto - definitely should...
Puff Daddy - auto
The Coup - maybe, but most likely not, decent material, but not enough impact
Tha Alkaholiks - maybe? King tee would be a definite
Mac Dre - probably wouldn't make it, but definitely would deserve it like K-Rino

Luda and Diddy are the only locks. The rest are either questionable or doubtful.

Lupe Fiasco- Nah, he needs to drop a couple more gems for me to include him
Ludacris- If TI makes it, than Luda should as well.
Souls of Mischief- 93 and what else? Hiero as a collective would make it, Souls as a group would not.
Pharoahe Monch- Close, with his OK works, but solo wise, not enough.
OC- Nah
Onyx- Maybe, they fell off big time though.
El-Producto- Hell yeah, Definitive Jux co founder, a huge driving force for the underground, he's a shoe in...borderline first ballot, second easily.
Puff Daddy- First ballot, end of discussion.
The Coup- nah
Tha Alkaholiks- nope
Mac Dre- Third ballot, his impact was huge.

TheHazardous wrote:

Lupe Fiasco (no)
Ludacris (maybe)
Souls of Mischief (no)
Pharoahe Monch (no)
OC (no)
Onyx (maybe)
El-Producto (no)
Puff Daddy (yes)
The Coup (no)
Tha Alkaholiks (no)
Mac Dre (no)

TI a shoe in, but Luda a maybe?

Anyone says no on El-P needs to go back and do their homework until they have the same opinion a me DAWG LMAOOOOO!

Dogg,

What is up man. You seem belligerent and somewhat insecure about El-P not getting hypothetical votes in a hall of fame that resides in bizarro world. Chill out man we all know Nas created hip hop and is the only option that is objectively correct here.


Peace

Lupe Fiasco - absolutely not, did nothing to further the genre and isnt even the top at what he does
Ludacris - maybe
Souls of Mischief - Hiero as a collective taking into account all members work probably woudl, not sure if Souls alone
Pharoahe Monch - yes, easy
OC - maybe
Onyx - yes
El-Producto - yes
Puff Daddy - yes
The Coup - prob not
Tha Alkaholiks - maybe
Mac Dre - yes, easily

parker lewis wrote:

Anyone says no on El-P needs to go back and do their homework until they have the same opinion a me DAWG LMAOOOOO!

Cosign this mane (mayne).

Zaza Pachulia wrote:

TheHazardous wrote:

Lupe Fiasco (no)
Ludacris (maybe)
Souls of Mischief (no)
Pharoahe Monch (no)
OC (no)
Onyx (maybe)
El-Producto (no)
Puff Daddy (yes)
The Coup (no)
Tha Alkaholiks (no)
Mac Dre (no)

TI a shoe in, but Luda a maybe?

You know what your correct. Luda's impact was heavy but I personally think T.I.'s discog is overall stronger however Luda is the better lyricist. I still haven't heard Theater of the Mind or Battle. Might not mess with battle.

I think T.I. has at least 3 debatable classics. I feel Luda has great albums.

Yeah, I see what you are saying....now that I really think about it, Luda doesn't really have a classic album. Great, but no classics.

I, too, didn't mess with Battle.

Great album does not equal classic?

And Luda being a better lyricists than TI I do not agree with. Luda is not that lyrical to me. Unless just having punchlines is an auto count for lyricism?

Great album=personal classic. Excellent=hip hop classic....to me anyways.

Luda > TI imo