Hip Hop Hall of Fame 4

TicNitty706 wrote:

KJ Styles wrote:

TicNitty706 wrote:

T. Myers wrote:

No they would not KJ. just because they created it doesn't mean they made it special. Tribe and De La would have been just as great with or without the Native Tongues tag.

+10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Y'all are Native Tongue haters for the most part so whatever. I have absolutely no doubt that the JB's would get in. Sure, those groups likely would be as great but that's besides the point. Bottom line is that they ALONG WITH THE JUNGLE BROTHERS ushered in a new style/trend in hip hop. For that reason they'd get inducted.

I don't hate the Native Tongue movement. I think it was one of the most important and creative forces ever in music. As a crew or a movement they deserve HOF induction automatically. But Jungle Bro's on grp merit alone would not make it.

Exactly!! There is no middle ground with KJ. If you don't slurp their man gravy, you are a hater. I guarantee he wouldn't be calling me a hater when i vote yes to De La Soul, ATCQ, and Busta Rhymes. It's no disrespect to the Jungle Brothers, but i think peoples criteria is way too soft. Releasing a classic album in raps golden era isn't an automatic inclusion into the HOF. Starting the Native Tongues doesn't mean much in my book because the collective became great on the back of other groups not the Jungle Brothers.

Whatever Terry that's your opinion, but I disagree entirely. The JB's are considered a great group in their own right, and they have not one but TWO classic albums.

There are a lot of great groups, but are they an all time great group? That's what the HOF means. I don't think they deserve a place right next to Tribe or De La Soul. Do you think they are anywhere close to being as dope as those two groups?

Everyone you love has a million classics according to you KJ.

AP.9 is a great rapper in his own right and has way more classics than Biggie, he should be in the Hall of Fame and if you don't agree you are nothing but a west coast hater.

Let's be real though, was JB's really even a "great" grp? I think they were good at best but let's not get crazy.

TicNitty706 wrote:

Let's be real though, was JB's really even a "great" grp? I think they were good at best but let's not get crazy.

I do not consider them great, but that's really a matter of opinion i suppose.

Southern Rap Pro wrote:

Everyone you love has a million classics according to you KJ.

AP.9 is a great rapper in his own right and has way more classics than Biggie, he should be in the Hall of Fame and if you don't agree you are nothing but a west coast hater.

That's your opinion, but you and I both know that he'd have about as much chance of making the HOF as the Hornets do of winning the NBA title. Actually, I'd probably give the Hornets a better chance, but you get my drift.

TicNitty706 wrote:

Let's be real though, was JB's really even a "great" grp? I think they were good at best but let's not get crazy.

They rocked in the late 80's-early 90's and are still respected today but like I said earlier neither you nor Terry are fans of Native Tongues anyway. Y'all might respect ATCQ and De La's accomplishments but y'all don't really like them like that. But I'm done beating a dead horse.

I do like both groups. I don't know why you think I do not like either group